Official Draft Ryan Mallet Thread

[The Commish]

Kid has poor leadership and character. Pass.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Whiz taught Ben the footwork. Everyone knows that. j/k

lol...OMG, WHIZ DIDN"T TEECH BEN ANYTHING< HE JUST ROAD HIS COATTAILS!!! HE HURT HIS FEELINS LIKE MATT TWO, WHIS EGO APOLOGIES WRONG!!!

 

[Mulli]

lol...OMG, WHIZ DIDN"T TEECH BEN ANYTHING< HE JUST ROAD HIS COATTAILS!!! HE HURT HIS FEELINS LIKE MATT TWO, WHIS EGO APOLOGIES WRONG!!!

Matt had awesome footwork until Whiz ruined it!

 

[oaken1]

he tries to make up for poor footwork with arm strength, throws off balance all day long. If his WR's were not so good he would not have anywhere near those numbers......having a RB who will likely be a first round pick helps quite a bit too.
Newtons passing numbers are not as impressive, but none of his WR's are likely to get into the NFL either, so he is working with less.
Mallett throws multiple picks whenever he faces a good defense.

 

[Mulli]

he tries to make up for poor footwork with arm strength, throws off balance all day long. If his WR's were not so good he would not have anywhere near those numbers......having a RB who will likely be a first round pick helps quite a bit too.
Newtons passing numbers are not as impressive, but none of his WR's are likely to get into the NFL either, so he is working with less.
Mallett throws multiple picks whenever he faces a good defense.

So does Peyton Manning (this year).

 

[john h]

Easy as A B C, 1 2 3, do re mi.

1.Luck
2.Mallet
3.Newton

If we don't get one of these guys, you might as well throw rotten lemons in my kool aid.

I would gladly take any of the three. They will be the first three QB's to go. Just hope we do not have to trade up to get one as that is not what we typically do. The owner is not into paying big $$$ for high draft choices. It worked out with Fitz at #3 which at the time I did not think he was that valuable. It appears I was very wrong.

 

[crisper57]

Easy as A B C, 1 2 3, do re mi.

1.Luck
2.Mallet
3.Newton

If we don't get one of these guys, you might as well throw rotten lemons in my kool aid.

Is this the sequel to:

1. Cutler
2. Leinart
3. Young

I sure hope not because we can't miss on two straight #1 QB draft choices. Any chance Skelton is ready next year?

 

[kerouac9]

My flags on Mallett:

1) Junior. I don't like junior quarterbacks; they rarely succeed in the NFL. Even Matt Sanchez has to be protected by a running game and conservative playcalling.

2) Reach for need. We'll probably be drafting in the Top 10. I don't think that Mallett is a top 10 pick in this draft by any measure. We reached for Cody Brown because we had a need at the position; how'd that work out? What about Alan Branch? What about Levi Brown?

3) Mickey Mouse offense. How are Bobby Petrino's QBs doing in the NFL? Ask Green Bay fans how they enjoyed the Brian Brohm Experience.

The recipe adds up to Kyle Boller 2.0. All the physical tools in the world, but would be forced into a starting role here and would be unable to succeed. If Whis wants to run a precision short- and intermediate-passing offense--and that's what it looked like early in the season--then Mallett isn't the player for you.

Just because we desperately NEED a quarterback doesn't mean that you take the highest-rated one on your board when you go on the clock.

 

[Russ Smith]

What I don't like about Mallett is his reliance on arm strength. He completes a high percentage but he throws a lot of balls into coverage that he gets away with. You get away with that in college but you get to the NFL and suddenly CB's and safeties are getting to those balls you used to squeeze in.

Most young QB's have to adapt to that, I'm just not a big fan of Mallett's ability to adapt to that, he doesn't strike me as a highly coachable player.

He has a better arm than Luck does and he actually throws a better deep ball than Luck does too, but Luck is the better QB and probably always will be, by a wide margin IMHO.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

My flags on Mallett:

1) Junior. I don't like junior quarterbacks; they rarely succeed in the NFL. Even Matt Sanchez has to be protected by a running game and conservative playcalling.

2) Reach for need. We'll probably be drafting in the Top 10. I don't think that Mallett is a top 10 pick in this draft by any measure. We reached for Cody Brown because we had a need at the position; how'd that work out? What about Alan Branch? What about Levi Brown?

3) Mickey Mouse offense. How are Bobby Petrino's QBs doing in the NFL? Ask Green Bay fans how they enjoyed the Brian Brohm Experience.

The recipe adds up to Kyle Boller 2.0. All the physical tools in the world, but would be forced into a starting role here and would be unable to succeed. If Whis wants to run a precision short- and intermediate-passing offense--and that's what it looked like early in the season--then Mallett isn't the player for you.

Just because we desperately NEED a quarterback doesn't mean that you take the highest-rated one on your board when you go on the clock.

That's why I suggested the 2nd highest rated QB.

 

[john h]

For some reasom, I'm starting to like him. I don't think anyone can question his talent. He's completing over 65% of his passes at a high YPA , so it's not like he's dink and dunking it. And he's playing in the SEC so you can't really question his level of competition. The big question is his mental makeup. I can see alot of similarities to Ben R. They're both big guys that can make all the throws and have the arm to play in Whiz's offense. I think are mistaken when they try and compare Mallet to DA. The only similarity is their size. DA has never completed a high % of passes, even in college. In the last 2 years he has thrown 60 TD's to only 18 int's at over 9 yards per attempt.

Yet here's a scouting report to scare anyone away from himespecially at the bottom). Granted this was prior to theseason and this site now has him projected to the Cards at 6.
Ryan Mallett Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire


Inconsistent? Mallet just went 10-2 with the 6th toughest schedule in the nation. His accuracy leads the SEC. His average completion leads the SEC. He is dynamite in the red zone. He has more than just a good head on his shoulders. He reads defenses very well and will change the play at the line as often as not. He can make any throw the pros want. This year his greatest improvement was maturing and not trying to make a play that is not there. A couple of the throws he made against LSU were pro level throws. One was a strike to the far sideline to the fastest receiver Arkansas has. The defender did not account for the speed of the ball and missed it and the receiver ran 86 yds for a TD. The other was when he had three tacklers hanging on to him and he made an unbelievable throw down the middle while falling backwards. Few QBs have the arm strength to make that throw. He just broke the Arkansas record for TD passes and we have one game to go. Hopefully the Sugar Bowl if Auburn beats South Carolina. I Have watched nearly every game Mallet has played at Arkansas. This guy is the real deal. Every announcer who has broadcast the games has said he is NFL ready now. He is a football junkie and lives for football all year long. Also a nice young man with character plus and not a Hollywood playboy like our previous QB. He may very well go ahead of Newton even though he cannot run like Newton.

If any of you watched the LSU game this week you had to notice our 18 year old RB. He did not start the early games this year but once he got his chance he has gone wild. The last three games he as run over 150 yds a game. A 4.4 225 lb phenom who has run for over a 1000 yds and missed the early games. He also is a great blocker. He is two young to come out this year. He ran for around 150 yds Saturday against a tough LSU. He reminds me of Darrell McFaden and he is only 18. Arkansas has probably three receivers that will play in the NFL. The best of the three has been injured for the past three games. These guys of course helped Mallet. Anyone that says Mallet has character issues just do not know what they are talking about. Here in Arkansas we see him on TV almost daily and he lives under a microscope. He is almost a legend already in our state. Who ever gets Mallet will certainly have no character problems. He will be to busy studying the play book. His arm strength has overcome some of his footwork problems but the pros will cure that. His average throw is probably over 20 yards and for a guy who throw a lot that is strong. He had two TD passes of over 80 yards Saturday and one of them was with only 6 seconds left in the half. Both of those 80 yd passes were to the same receiver who happens to be the fastest guy on the team and who also got the ball on the attempted on-side kick late in the game. I do not think we will be lucky enough to get Mallet but if it got to a point whether we took Mallet or Newton I would have to give that some thought. Mallet is the better passer and the prototype NFL QB. Newton could be a RB as he is that good at running the ball. He is an average passer with a strong arm an a lot of upside. How he will do as a passer in the NFL is why he was rated #18 on Kipers big board last week. Mallet was #8 and Luck was #1. I have only seen one game with Luck so do not have a feel for him but he must be really really good from all I read. Is there any question that he will not come out?

 

[Pariah]

My flags on Mallett:
What about Alan Branch?

In fairness, we didn't reach for Branch. I think we were lucky to get him where we did.

I agree about not reaching in general, though. Unfortunately, through the years it's a hallmark of the Cardinals drafts.

 

[Mulli]

My flags on Mallett:

1) Junior. I don't like junior quarterbacks; they rarely succeed in the NFL. Even Matt Sanchez has to be protected by a running game and conservative playcalling.

2) Reach for need. We'll probably be drafting in the Top 10. I don't think that Mallett is a top 10 pick in this draft by any measure. We reached for Cody Brown because we had a need at the position; how'd that work out? What about Alan Branch? What about Levi Brown?

3) Mickey Mouse offense. How are Bobby Petrino's QBs doing in the NFL? Ask Green Bay fans how they enjoyed the Brian Brohm Experience.

The recipe adds up to Kyle Boller 2.0. All the physical tools in the world, but would be forced into a starting role here and would be unable to succeed. If Whis wants to run a precision short- and intermediate-passing offense--and that's what it looked like early in the season--then Mallett isn't the player for you.

Just because we desperately NEED a quarterback doesn't mean that you take the highest-rated one on your board when you go on the clock.

Looks like the recipe might result in Mark Sanchez. I will take it.

 

[kerouac9]

Looks like the recipe might result in Mark Sanchez. I will take it.

Mallett doesn't have the leadership or intangibles that Mark Sanchez had--and that's what' makes Sanchez great.

 

[Mulli]

Mallett doesn't have the leadership or intangibles that Mark Sanchez had--and that's what' makes Sanchez great.

Are you questioning his "moxie?"

 

[Dback Jon]

My flags on Mallett:

1) Junior. I don't like junior quarterbacks; they rarely succeed in the NFL. Even Matt Sanchez has to be protected by a running game and conservative playcalling.

So you'd pass on Andrew Luck, since he is only a Sophomore??

You'd have passed on Big Ben?

 

[schutd]

I wish threatening an organization with being "totally out" was enough to get them to do what most think they should do. If we dont get one of the afore-mentioned QBs with our first pick, and any of them are available, I might kill myself.

 

[oaken1]

I wish threatening an organization with being "totally out" was enough to get them to do what most think they should do. If we dont get one of the afore-mentioned QBs with our first pick, and any of them are available, I might kill myself.

That might make an impact.........................if you did it at the season opener,....say, right after DA's first pick................
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Just a suggestion..............

 

[schutd]

Wait, organized mass suicide..... kool aid....... I think we're onto something here.

 

[Pariah]

If we dont get one of the afore-mentioned QBs with our first pick, and any of them are available, I might kill myself.

Start planning now. Because, as K9 mentioned, we might not be in a place to logically take one. Maybe we can move bak and get a guy like Mallet (not my preference, just a thought), but if we take him at say, #9, that's probably a huge stretch, and we're not really getting value there.

 

[kerouac9]

So you'd pass on Andrew Luck, since he is only a Sophomore??

You'd have passed on Big Ben?

It's not so much about the year, it's about the number of collegiate starts. Roethlisberger had 38 starts when he went into the draft--that's as much as a lot of senior QBs. If Andrew Luck declares, he'll have 24.

I wouldn't pass on Andrew Luck, because he plays in a pro-style offense in those 24 starts, but he's still a risky proposition. Sam Bradford was similarly a risky proposition because he only had 30 collegiate starts when he was drafted. Doesn't mean that a QB won't work out; it just means that you should have a flag on him.

 

[Totally_Red]

This is the first year I am on the draft a QBOTF in the first round bandwagon in a very long time, since before Warner at least. I know next to nothing about the big three, but I do want a quarterback, and I don't want another warmed-over mediocre or worse veteran like DA. Another Sam Bradford is probably too much to hope for, but I'd gladly settle for a Matt Cassel or Joe Flacco talent.

 

[schutd]

Start planning now. Because, as K9 mentioned, we might not be in a place to logically take one. Maybe we can move bak and get a guy like Mallet (not my preference, just a thought), but if we take him at say, #9, that's probably a huge stretch, and we're not really getting value there.

May be a simpleton POV, as Im no draftnick or talent evaluator, but if you have one pick in the first round, there are 4 QBS overall, a couple of which might be available when you pick in that round but most assuredly NOT when your name comes up again next round, and you DESPERATELY ARE IN NEED OF A QBOF, and you have the opportunity to take of the QBs, how can you argue that theres no value in the pick?

I think, especially when taking about QBs, stretching is less of an issue because while the risk is high, the rewards can be higher. You HAVE TO pull the trigger in that instance. All the geeky mathmatics and stats and percentages aside.

 

[Mulli]

May be a simpleton POV, as Im no draftnick or talent evaluator, but if you have one pick in the first round, there are 4 QBS overall, a couple of which might be available when you pick in that round but most assuredly NOT when your name comes up again next round, and you DESPERATELY ARE IN NEED OF A QBOF, and you have the opportunity to take of the QBs, how can you argue that theres no value in the pick?

I think, especially when taking about QBs, stretching is less of an issue because while the risk is high, the rewards can be higher. You HAVE TO pull the trigger in that instance. All the geeky mathmatics and stats and percentages aside.

This.

 

[kerouac9]

So you would happily draft the next Jason Campbell, Kyle Boller, or Rex Grossman because they're quarterbacks? I'm looking for someone to make an affirmative case for Ryan Mallett other than the fact that he's a quarterback.

I'll give John H a pass because he's an Arkansas guy. Go back and look at his threads on how Matt Jones was going to be the next Randy Moss.