Offseason need never mentioned - RBOF

[sundevil04]

Ok, I think we have all seen enough of Mendenhall to feel comfortable handing him his walking papers at the end of the year. I also think we can all agree that Alfonso Smith isn't anything more than a ST player.

That leaves us with S.Taylor and Ellington. We all love Ellington, but I don't think many of us feel that he's the type of back that can carry the pill 20+ times a game for 16 games plus a playoff run. He, in my mind is more of a 10 - 15 touch guy and 3 - 5, prorably only 10 - 12 of which are carries.

So that leaves us with Stephen taylor. The questions is, do you feel comfortable enough with a guy with 19 NFL carries averaging 2.8 YPC to say that he will carry the loan on the ground?

I don't.

That begs the question...who will fill that role next year?

here's a list of likely 2014 draftees that may be of interest. I'd don't see any of these guys going in the top of the 1st, so I think at least 1 if not more of these will be available in rd3.

Melvin Gordon Wisconsin rSo 6-1 207
Ka'Deem Carey Arizona Jr 5-10 207
Lache Seastrunk Baylor rJr 5-9 210
Bishop Sankey Washington Jr 5-10 203

 

[Dback Jon]

2nd or 3rd round worry, or FA

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I feel Ellington is the RBOF. We have at least 10 other needs higher than RB IMO.

 

[earthsci]

Not saying that he is the answer but you failed to mention Ryan Williams.

 

[Heucrazy]

If they waste a draft pick on a RB I will lose my freaking mind

 

[Buckybird]

BA has & always has had a throwing offense, so I highly doubt it's a big need! Didn't we just draft 2 RBs? A RB is probably last on my list of needs for this team.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not saying that he is the answer but you failed to mention Ryan Williams.

+1.

Funny how many bemoan the waste of a roster spot, one of the inactives none the less, and then people forget about him.

Darn tootin' Ryan Williams is in the plans for 2014, or why would he still be on the roster ?

You enter 2014 with

Andre Ellington
Stepfan Taylor
Ryan Williams
Alfonso Smith

I don't see the need, and if the Cardinals were to bring in a RB, it will be the 6th round or after IMHO.

As for Stepfan Taylor, I am quite confident he is going to be a Cardinal for at least the next 3yrs.

In the age of passing the football, I could care less about Taylor's yards per carry. All I care about with Taylor is his pass blocking, and his ability to get 1st downs, and TDs in short yardage situations.

 

[juza76]

We can find another ellington in round 6,so they can share the carries and each of us will be happy not seeing taking sone snaps players like mendenhall or fonzo smith

 

[JeffGollin]

Storm Johnson caught my eye tonite - big, strong lower body, moves the pile. Ideally fills a Cardinal need for a between the tackles RB with yards-after-contact capability. Is he draft-eligible?

Thoughts?

 

[SECTION 11]

If we drafted TJ Yeldon I'd be stoked.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I mentioned in another thread, a great compliment to Ellington would be Carlos Hyde, but not until 3rd round.

TY Yeldon is the best RB around but don't think he's draft eligible.

 

[Shane]

I mentioned in another thread, a great compliment to Ellington would be Carlos Hyde, but not until 3rd round.

TY Yeldon is the best RB around but don't think he's draft eligible.

You aren't allowed to input on RBs especially OSU ones

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You aren't allowed to input on RBs especially OSU ones

Hyde is different .

Actually, he's turned out a lot better than I thought he'd be. He dropped about 15-20 pounds and is a completely different player. Before he was a plugger, Stefan Taylor-type RB and there would be no need for the Cards to take him since they have Taylor. But, this year, he's shown big play ability and is an absolute horse at 230. Plus he doesn't have any injury or vodka issues.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Storm Johnson caught my eye tonite - big, strong lower body, moves the pile. Ideally fills a Cardinal need for a between the tackles RB with yards-after-contact capability. Is he draft-eligible?

Thoughts?

That it would be awesome to have someone on the team named Storm.

 

[BigRedRage]

late round pick, we have much larger needs than taking a 20+ carry RB early. If a RB gets 20+ carries that means ellington gets 10 or less. No good IMO.

 

[Cardiac]

+1.

Funny how many bemoan the waste of a roster spot, one of the inactives none the less, and then people forget about him.

Darn tootin' Ryan Williams is in the plans for 2014, or why would he still be on the roster ?

You enter 2014 with

Andre Ellington
Stepfan Taylor
Ryan Williams
Alfonso Smith

I don't see the need, and if the Cardinals were to bring in a RB, it will be the 6th round or after IMHO.

As for Stepfan Taylor, I am quite confident he is going to be a Cardinal for at least the next 3yrs.

In the age of passing the football, I could care less about Taylor's yards per carry. All I care about with Taylor is his pass blocking, and his ability to get 1st downs, and TDs in short yardage situations.

This.

If we drafted TJ Yeldon I'd be stoked.

When Section 11 talks up a RB I'm all ears.

4th rd or later for a RB.

 

[kerouac9]

+1.

Funny how many bemoan the waste of a roster spot, one of the inactives none the less, and then people forget about him.

Darn tootin' Ryan Williams is in the plans for 2014, or why would he still be on the roster ?

You enter 2014 with

Andre Ellington
Stepfan Taylor
Ryan Williams
Alfonso Smith

I don't see the need, and if the Cardinals were to bring in a RB, it will be the 6th round or after IMHO.

As for Stepfan Taylor, I am quite confident he is going to be a Cardinal for at least the next 3yrs.

In the age of passing the football, I could care less about Taylor's yards per carry. All I care about with Taylor is his pass blocking, and his ability to get 1st downs, and TDs in short yardage situations.

Yes. Ryan Williams will in all likelihood be a very effective and useful player having not played meaningful football in two years. He's already shown that he's just as dependable as Ricky Williams.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You guys need to watch Carlos Hyde. He's more impressive every time I watch. He never goes down on first contact, runs with great vision, and shows above average cutting ability with the speed to go the distance(at least this year).

I'm not saying he's going to be anywhere near as good, but his running style reminds me of Earl Campbell. He takes on the first guy, breaks that tackle, and is always going forward. Yet, has the vision, quickness, and strength to make guys miss.

Of course, it may also be because he wears #34 .

I seriously doubt he'll be on the Cards because, unless he runs a very slow 40, he's likely going to go in round 2 and the Cards have more pressing needs but he's going to be good.

 

[Garthshort]

I saw Arizona's Carey listed at 195. Think he;ll make it as a pro but seems small for an every down back.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Carlos Hyde had another monster day with over 200 yards. He's getting better every game.

The current NFL player he reminds me of is Frank Gore.

 

[Bodha]

RB is not a big need.


Stepfan Taylor is our RBOTF if you want to anoint one. Hes comparable or better than just about every RB in the upcoming draft.


RBs are disvalued in todays NFL. If you have a dominant Oline, and RB of moderate talent, than your run game should be fine. Adrian Petersons only come around once in a generation, so theres no point in drafting RDs early.

We have lots needs, no need to burn valuable picks on a position where we already have a log jam.

Need a QB, Olinemen and OLBs by the bus load. SS and FS because Bell is awful and Rashad is just OK.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

RB is not a big need.


Stepfan Taylor is our RBOTF if you want to anoint one. Hes comparable or better than just about every RB in the upcoming draft.


RBs are disvalued in todays NFL. If you have a dominant Oline, and RB of moderate talent, than your run game should be fine. Adrian Petersons only come around once in a generation, so theres no point in drafting RDs early.

We have lots needs, no need to burn valuable picks on a position where we already have a log jam.

Need a QB, Olinemen and OLBs by the bus load. SS and FS because Bell is awful and Rashad is just OK.

I mentioned that we'd likely not take RB, at least in the early part of the draft. If Hyde is sitting there at the end of round 3, I'd have no problem taking him. I wouldn't take him in round 1 or 2. He has no chance of going in round 1 and, with the way teams draft RB's these days, he probably won't go in round 2 either.

You're nuts if you think Taylor is as good as any RB in this draft. Hell, he was the 11th RB taken in his draft and, if everyone expected comes out, this draft is better for RB's.

Also Taylor is not the RBOF, at least I hope he isn't. RB's with 4.7 speed and little juice aren't normally guys that are #1 RB's in the NFL.

As much as liked Beanie, I think Hyde will be better. He's not as overall naturally talented but he's a better RB. He runs harder and has better feet and vision.

 

[D-Dogg]

I feel Ellington is the RBOF. We have at least 10 other needs higher than RB IMO.

This.

 

[Garthshort]

Just read that the Boston College RB, Williams, who was having a fantastic year was injured, yesterday. And that is why so few teams draft a RB in the first or second round. JMO.

 

[MWOOD92]

Mendenhall will not be our RB for long.
Ellington cannot handle a 20+ workload.
Taylor is better suited as a 3rd down/goal line RB.
Williams has been non existent for the past 3 years.

We could DEFINITELY use a stud RB. I would really like taking Ka'Deem Carey in the 2nd round.

Adrian Peterson - 1st round
Marshawn Lynch - 1st round
Knowshon Moreno - 1st round
LeSean McCoy - 2nd round
Matt Forte - 2nd round
Eddie Lacy - 2nd round
Frank Gore - 3rd round
Jamaal Charles - 3rd round

Notice how ALL of these RBs have been taken within the first 3 rounds? The list doesn't end there either. Whoever says top RBs can easily be found in later rounds is sadly mistaken.