OJ Mayo is now a unrestricted free agent

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memphis declined to make the qualifying offer to mayo, which will make him an unrestricted free agent. Mayo would be a good young SG for the Suns to get.

Edit: mayo would also be able to guard the quick PG's of the league, which will allow marshall to guard SG's
 
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Would be a great piece to add, if he expecting a max deal. Shouldn't
 

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he's definitely a guy to look at for the Suns IMO. But it all depends on the type of contract he wants.
 
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he's definitely a guy to look at for the Suns IMO. But it all depends on the type of contract he wants.

Well, I really doubt he gets more than 7 mil/year. I think anything less than 7 would be good value
 

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The remarkable thing is this is the first time since Mayo turned 15 that he wasn't signed to a contract.

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He's exactly the type of guy this front office will overpay to ensure mediocrity for years to come
 

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Mayo vs. Waiters, Rivers, Lamb, Beal?

Mayo averaged 18.5 his rookie year. His 3 pt shooting is excellent. He is a decent defender. I think he would thrive here.

Boston wants him. Is he the best unrestricted guard option available? Looks like he is for the Suns anyway.
 

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I'd be willing to give mayo a contract that starts at 8 and ends at 10. He could be the #1 option for us and increase his value.
 

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I'd be willing to give mayo a contract that starts at 8 and ends at 10. He could be the #1 option for us and increase his value.

so, you want to go the Detroit Pistons route, huh? That sounds like a good plan!
 

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I don't want to go that route but we have to pay some people to reach the minimum treshold and I think Mayo is a legitimate above average starter on a team.
 

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I don't want to go that route but we have to pay some people to reach the minimum treshold and I think Mayo is a legitimate above average starter on a team.

On a bad team, on a good team he's started 17 games in 2 years including zero last year.

Memphis figured out Mayo is a good bench player, his production increases as his minutes went down.
 

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Ben Gordon and Villanueva are bench players / gimmick players / tweeners.

Mayo is more talented than either and has a well - defined position in the NBA.
 

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Ben Gordon and Villanueva are bench players / gimmick players / tweeners.

Mayo is more talented than either and has a well - defined position in the NBA.

You're really hilarious sometimes. Compare Gordon's numbers pre trade to Mayo, and explain to me the difference, beyond the fact that Gordon was far more productive, and on the upswing, as opposed to Mayo who's numbers continue to regress.
 

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You're really hilarious sometimes. Compare Gordon's numbers pre trade to Mayo, and explain to me the difference, beyond the fact that Gordon was far more productive, and on the upswing, as opposed to Mayo who's numbers continue to regress.

I have posted this on .net and realGM so might as well post it here too..

I think adding Mayo is fine at around the MLE, but there will be playoff teams that might want him for the MLE as well. I don't want to get into paying him $8M/yr. I still feel Dudley is the better player. They put up almost identical numbers.

Take a look at this... can you justify giving Mayo double what Dudley is getting paid? Especially now that we have "advanced statistics" guys working for us that surely will know this information since it's only a click away.

Link to comparison at basketball-reference.

If you don't want to look at the link here's a copy & paste version...

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jared Dudley 2011-12 26 65 60 31.1 4.8 9.9 .485 1.2 3.2 .383 1.8 2.5 .726 1.5 3.2 4.6 1.7 0.8 0.3 1.1 1.6 12.7
2 O.J. Mayo 2011-12 24 66 0 26.8 4.5 11.2 .408 1.5 4.2 .364 2.0 2.6 .773 0.5 2.7 3.2 2.6 1.1 0.3 1.9 2.1 12.6
 

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I have posted this on .net and realGM so might as well post it here too..

I think adding Mayo is fine at around the MLE, but there will be playoff teams that might want him for the MLE as well. I don't want to get into paying him $8M/yr. I still feel Dudley is the better player. They put up almost identical numbers.

Take a look at this... can you justify giving Mayo double what Dudley is getting paid? Especially now that we have "advanced statistics" guys working for us that surely will know this information since it's only a click away.

Link to comparison at basketball-reference.

If you don't want to look at the link here's a copy & paste version...

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jared Dudley 2011-12 26 65 60 31.1 4.8 9.9 .485 1.2 3.2 .383 1.8 2.5 .726 1.5 3.2 4.6 1.7 0.8 0.3 1.1 1.6 12.7
2 O.J. Mayo 2011-12 24 66 0 26.8 4.5 11.2 .408 1.5 4.2 .364 2.0 2.6 .773 0.5 2.7 3.2 2.6 1.1 0.3 1.9 2.1 12.6

Depends if you can argue that Dudley is UNDERpaid. Dudley is easily worth the MLE, and 7m a year is only a mil and a half more than that. Chump change in the NBA.
 

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I have posted this on .net and realGM so might as well post it here too..

I think adding Mayo is fine at around the MLE, but there will be playoff teams that might want him for the MLE as well. I don't want to get into paying him $8M/yr. I still feel Dudley is the better player. They put up almost identical numbers.

Take a look at this... can you justify giving Mayo double what Dudley is getting paid? Especially now that we have "advanced statistics" guys working for us that surely will know this information since it's only a click away.

Link to comparison at basketball-reference.

If you don't want to look at the link here's a copy & paste version...

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jared Dudley 2011-12 26 65 60 31.1 4.8 9.9 .485 1.2 3.2 .383 1.8 2.5 .726 1.5 3.2 4.6 1.7 0.8 0.3 1.1 1.6 12.7
2 O.J. Mayo 2011-12 24 66 0 26.8 4.5 11.2 .408 1.5 4.2 .364 2.0 2.6 .773 0.5 2.7 3.2 2.6 1.1 0.3 1.9 2.1 12.6


Definitely agree. Mayo is a poor man's version of what Gordon was when he got paid.
 

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I have posted this on .net and realGM so might as well post it here too..

I think adding Mayo is fine at around the MLE, but there will be playoff teams that might want him for the MLE as well. I don't want to get into paying him $8M/yr. I still feel Dudley is the better player. They put up almost identical numbers.

Take a look at this... can you justify giving Mayo double what Dudley is getting paid? Especially now that we have "advanced statistics" guys working for us that surely will know this information since it's only a click away.

Link to comparison at basketball-reference.

If you don't want to look at the link here's a copy & paste version...

Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Jared Dudley 2011-12 26 65 60 31.1 4.8 9.9 .485 1.2 3.2 .383 1.8 2.5 .726 1.5 3.2 4.6 1.7 0.8 0.3 1.1 1.6 12.7
2 O.J. Mayo 2011-12 24 66 0 26.8 4.5 11.2 .408 1.5 4.2 .364 2.0 2.6 .773 0.5 2.7 3.2 2.6 1.1 0.3 1.9 2.1 12.6

I have no argument with Dudley, he's a sf and Mayo is a sg. Just because Dudley is underpaid does not mean we should expect to underpay everyone else.

Either you are going to get good young players or not. If you want to sign them, you have to pay them. The only other way is to draft them or trade for them. We got a deal on Dudley because we traded for him and he did not really start developing until after we paid him. If Dudley were a free agent right now, he would be getting OJ Mayo money.

The knock on Dudley is that he is not as athletic as Mayo.
 

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If Dudley were a free agent right now, he would be getting OJ Mayo money.

According to who? What is OJ Mayo money? If it's 6-7 per year, that's one thing, if it's 8-10, whole different story.
 

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According to who? What is OJ Mayo money? If it's 6-7 per year, that's one thing, if it's 8-10, whole different story.

Thats why I said it that way. Dudley would be getting Mayo type numbers whatever the market dictates.
 

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Ok, can you guys who the following guys are? One is an established veteran on a contract making about $5M per year the other one is a FA (not OJ Mayo) and is 26 years old.

Season G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2011-12 54 54 29.5 4.5 11.0 .408 1.9 5.1 .368 0.8 1.3 .594 0.7 2.9 3.6 2.0 1.0 0.4 1.1 1.7 11.6
2011-12 65 1 26.4 3.6 7.2 .501 1.5 3.4 .452 1.0 1.3 .793 0.5 3.4 3.9 1.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 1.0 9.8

I think there are players to be had that would be smart value additions. Paying O.J. Mayo $7M-$8M/per is probably not one of them right now.

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