Our franchise QB

[Eagler927]

Getting rid of Kyler would be a mistake. There’s way too much upside to trade him when the only NFL coach he’s worked with is Kliff.

It’s too hard to find starting caliber qb’s. The main reason Kliff needs to go is Kyler has peaked. You don’t get rid of a player with his athletic ability when he’s never had a legit NFL coach work with him and have him run a real NFL offense

 

[Jetstream Green]

He’s been in the NFL as a full time starter for 4 years. He should be getting better like his first 2.5 years. Not regressing. Make no mistake he is 1000% regressing.

Exactly, what amounts to four more years of college ball, he is running a college offense for the most part and that does not work. He needs a real professional coach and enter the league officially lol

 

[Shane]

Getting rid of Kyler would be a mistake. There’s way too much upside to trade him when the only NFL coach he’s worked with is Kliff.

It’s too hard to find starting caliber qb’s. The main reason Kliff needs to go is Kyler has peaked. You don’t get rid of a player with his athletic ability when he’s never had a legit NFL coach work with him and have him run a real NFL offense

Is he capable of running a “real” NFL offense? Heck it’s widely stated/assumed he has no desire to even take a snap under center.

 

[Shane]

Exactly, what amounts to four more years of college ball, he is running a college offense for the most part and that does not work. He needs a real professional coach and enter the league officially lol

No it doesn’t amount to that. He is an NFL player in the NFL playing against NFL players and looked primed to explode in his first 2.5 years….. Now not so much.

 

[DVontel]

Is he capable of running a “real” NFL offense? Heck it’s widely stated/assumed he has no desire to even take a snap under center.

You sure this is him & not Kliff/QB coach?

 

[Shane]

You sure this is him & not Kliff/QB coach?

No not 100% just repeating things we’ve heard. But I would imagine it’s again a mix of both.

 

[AZ Native]

He’s been in the NFL as a full time starter for 4 years. He should be getting better like his first 2.5 years. Not regressing. Make no mistake he is 1000% regressing.

I don't like even entertaining this idea. But after watching his last 12 games or so, it is obvious he has regressed.

 

[az jam]

Kyler is regressing because he has a losing college coach running the team.

 

[LA Redbird]

Malik Willis throwing tougher throws than Murray. Smh.

 

[gmabel830]

Would there even be a trade market for him based on his contract and the compensation it would take? Not that I think we would ever do it anyway, but you can’t trade someone no one wants to trade for.

 

[slanidrac16]

Murray completed over 70% his passes today. Two TDs, 0 Ints. A pure passer rating of 101.5.

7.5 yards a rush on 8 attempts. He did have the big fumble after the drop by Anderson. The YPC was really low at 5.0.

More culpable than Murray for our offensive struggles is our O line.

90% of his stats came on the first drive and the 4th quarter when the Seahawks were happy to let him dink and dunk while running down the clock. Take those two drives out and tell me what it looks like.

 

[Red on White]

Plenty of errors being made out on the field. It's easy to look at those and say they are the problem but what is the first domino?

 

[gmabel830]

90% of his stats came on the first drive and the 4th quarter when the Seahawks were happy to let him dink and dunk while running down the clock. Take those two drives out and tell me what it looks like.

We had five yards of offense in the third quarter… FIVE!

 

[DVontel]

No not 100% just repeating things we’ve heard. But I would imagine it’s again a mix of both.

We’ve heard from who? People on this board?

This is the only place I see it at.

 

[Shane]

Kyler is regressing because he has a losing college coach running the team.

Sure that’s part of it. But a lot of it is Kyler himself…. I like the 60/40 theory. He has the same coach that he was on the right trajectory for 2.5 years.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kyler is regressing because he has a losing college coach running the team.

This is an ignorant take.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No one who watched the game could possibly put this out there with a straight face.

You just KNEW that was coming as Kyler padded his stats with dinks and dunks all game that practically led the offense nowhere and when it finally did at the end of the game it was because the D played prevent and he played right into their hands throwing five yard passes in the middle of the field and bleeding the clock.

 

[slanidrac16]

You just KNEW that was coming as Kyler padded his stats with dinks and dunks all game that practically led the offense nowhere and when it finally did at the end of the game it was because the D played prevent and he played right into their hands throwing five yard passes in the middle of the field and bleeding the clock.

Honestly , that’s the way it’s been most of the year.

 

[AZ Native]

Kyler is regressing because he has a losing college coach running the team.

Yeah, right.

 

[Jetstream Green]

No it doesn’t amount to that. He is an NFL player in the NFL playing against NFL players and looked primed to explode in his first 2.5 years….. Now not so much.

For me it does, because as a professor I have seen talent mishandled in an active field and this is what can happen. Each year is crucial and this season shows the mentor/coach has hit a speed bump when the objectives have changed, and my observation is that Kliff lacks the proverbial toolbox to help his growth at this stage of development, mostly because of an offense which is ill equipped for the professional level for the QB to grow. Just my opinion and I am also the idiot which was blown away by Cody Ford recently but I think this QB is very salvageable but this coach is not.... Kliff has a floor and Kyler has a ceiling from my own observations which is still up there

 

[az jam]

Sure that’s part of it. But a lot of it is Kyler himself…. I like the 60/40 theory. He has the same coach that he was on the right trajectory for 2.5 years.

Yeah, I'm just tired of going to the games, sit there and have no enjoyment watching them play.

 

[nashman]

You just KNEW that was coming as Kyler padded his stats with dinks and dunks all game that practically led the offense nowhere and when it finally did at the end of the game it was because the D played prevent and he played right into their hands throwing five yard passes in the middle of the field and bleeding the clock.

You mean the genius drive where Kliff decides to try and get the run game going lol when we should be in the hurry up… The coaching on this team is the number 1 problem imo. Other coaches would manage and call games and get more out of what talent we have than Kliff is period! His gimmick offense sucks and we know how game management and everything else is lol…

 

[Cheesebeef]

Honestly , that’s the way it’s been most of the year.

I just can’t believe people can watch as much football as ALL of us do and be SO in the tank for ANY player that they think that performances like today are even close to OKAY because of cheese yards and a TD at the end of the game make the stats tell a different story than the reality that played out on the field.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

He’s been in the NFL as a full time starter for 4 years. He should be getting better like his first 2.5 years. Not regressing. Make no mistake he is 1000% regressing.

But WHY Shane? Why is he playing worse this year than in 2020 and 2021? What's causing the change man?

 

[Cheesebeef]

You mean the genius drive where Kliff decides to try and get the run game going lol when we should be in the hurry up… The coaching on this team is the number 1 problem imo. Other coaches would manage and call games and get more out of what talent we have than Kliff is period! His gimmick offense sucks and we know how game management and everything else is lol…

Kliff sucks.

Kyler does too.

End of story.