Pace signed!

[Shane]

Originally posted by sly fly
If the Cardinals decided to pass on Johnson just because "of the play of the current WR's in camp", then that is sorry.

Johnson's agent played a little hardball, and the Cards took their ball and went home. Typical. So, the Cards basically told Bryant Johnson to go screw himself. So much for the 17th pick in the 1st round.

The fact that we're even having this discussion is ludicrous.

Sorry! But by the sounds of this and especiqally Skkorps post it sounds as though the agent was playing hardball. Big surprise with Drew Rosenhaus :roll:

 

[Sandan]

This does not mean he has to give up $$ in the first year SB, but to get it he will have to sign a longer term deal.

 

[Alan]

Originally posted by Shane H
. Big surprise with Drew Rosenhaus :roll:

Did he just start representing Johnson?

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Alan
Did he just start representing Johnson?

Alright just correct me if Im wrong

Dont make me look like a pure dummy

Even though we aleady know I am

 

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by Shane H
Drew Rosenhaus :roll:

Hey Drew - show ME da money!

Nice to see Drew get screwed after all he did to us.

F you Drew for getting Tim McDonald out of here, you rat bastard.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by Alan
Did he just start representing Johnson?

Somebody said that he was the agent in an earlier post, but they were wrong Segal is.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by maddogkf
Hey Drew - show ME da money!

Nice to see Drew get screwed after all he did to us.

F you Drew for getting Tim McDonald out of here, you rat bastard.

I'm sure that would've been much more satisfying if Rosenhaus was actually Johnson's agent.

 

[Russ Smith]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
Somebody said that he was the agent in an earlier post, but they were wrong Segal is.

Maybe that's why Rosenhaus said no, it wasn't his client (-:

Right now I'm assuming Skorp is right. We can still sign him the way Jason described, if that doesn't work for them, they really should have considered that before rejecting the offers they turned down.

For all we know the picks were made alphabetically anyways so it's a bit hard to really complain about needing more for Johnson.

 

[Stronso]

Originally posted by Shane H
Sorry! But by the sounds of this and especiqally Skkorps post it sounds as though the agent was playing hardball. Big surprise with Drew Rosenhaus :roll:

Is Drew Rosenhaus BJ's agent or Joel Segal?

 

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'm sure that would've been much more satisfying if Rosenhaus was actually Johnson's agent.

Doooh!

I should've done some research instead of falling prey to someone's vicious lewd games!

My credibility is shot now!

 

[Sandan]

Segal

 

[Stronso]

Originally posted by Stronso
Is Drew Rosenhaus BJ's agent or Joel Segal?

Never Mind

 

[Shane]

Steven Segal???

 

[jf-08]

Originally posted by maddogkf
Doooh!

I should've done some research instead of falling prey to someone's vicious lewd games!

My credibility is shot now!

no your credibility here was shot when you registered here.

BTW who is this guy? What an a-hole!

 

[Sack Daddy]

I Like The Decision

Originally posted by cheesebeef
I am at a loss for words. I was psyched when I saw this, but did Graves really do something that is gonna make Johnson file a grievance against us - with the good comes the bad I guess.

Look, the money for Johnson was on the table, but his agent wanted a bigger piece of the pie. If Johnson had gotten more, it would have adversely affected negotiations with Pace. It sounds like Rod is between a rock and a hard place. As far as I'm concerned, Pace is more critical to the coming season and was the lesser of two evils. I'm sure Rod & Co. thought long and hard about this decision. One way or another, they'll work something out with Johnson. I don't think Johnson was going to start this year anyway. He'll be used in specific roles and won't be expected to pick up the entire offense. Pace on the other hand, will mostly likely start and will be critical to the overall improvement of the defense. You ask me, I think management made the right call and I stand by them. Sometimes, you can't have it all.

 

[Shane]

Re: I Like The Decision

Originally posted by Sack Daddy
Look, the money for Johnson was on the table, but his agent wanted a bigger piece of the pie. If Johnson had gotten more, it would have adversely affected negotiations with Pace. It sounds like Rod is between a rock and a hard place. As far as I'm concerned, Pace is more critical to the coming season and was the lesser of two evils. I'm sure Rod & Co. thought long and hard about this decision. One way or another, they'll work something out with Johnson. I don't think Johnson was going to start this year anyway. He'll be used in specific roles and won't be expected to pick up the entire offense. Pace on the other hand, will mostly likely start and will be critical to the overall improvement of the defense. You ask me, I think management made the right call and I stand by them. Sometimes, you can't have it all.

Nice Post!

 

[Sack Daddy]

Re: Re: I Like The Decision

Originally posted by Shane H
Nice Post!

Thanks Shane. I'm glad I don't have to negotiate with some of the people on this board; I'd have alot of hold-outs.

 

[40yearfan]

Originally posted by Jim Omohundro
I never said that people should stop talking about it. Many people are forming strong opinions on one article. I know that it is the only thing to go off of for now. However I simply think that it would be fair to let Graves or the Cardinals tell their side of the story before assaulting. I didn't notice anyone saying that, so I thought that I would jump in.

Jim, check out my post on page 2 of this thread---


Understated, but very appropriate. Has everyone decided that the Cards can't possibly have a contingent plan in place to overcome this obstacle?. Why don't we wait to hear from Graves as to what they plan on doing?

The screaming was so loud and obnoxious that the darksiders never even bothered to respond.

 

[maddogkf]

Originally posted by Shane H
Steven Segal???

Hate his movies - bad actor....almost as bad as Van Damme, worse than Arnold. See also: bad actors, action movie class: Sylvester Stallone

 

[Sandan]

But a MUCH better Martial Artist

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Originally posted by Alan
It's obvious that Len didn't talk to Johnson's agent. He is just speculating about a grievence because HE thinks there is a problem.

what makes it "obvious?"

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
what makes it "obvious?"

I already asked that - no answer.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm guessing that if Len had talked to Segal, he would have sourced it a little less hypothetically than "There now is a chance that Johnson and his agent will consider filing a grievance against the Cardinals." It sounds like that is an option that might be available to the agent, but unlikely.

It's not "obvious," but I think that if you look at the line, it doesn't seem very probable that Len had talked to Segal. I'm probably wrong.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Re: I Like The Decision

Sometimes, you can't have it all. [/B]

so you're saying you're willing to concede that the cards will never have all their draft picks in by a reasonable date? that's a defeatist attitude.

pace is gonna be at camp soon! YEAAAAYYYY (more positive stuff)

 

[AzCards21]

Whew! I read this whole thread! And now I have a head ache.

Great having Pace in. Johnson will get done too. He will just have to structure differently.