Post Packers Overreaction Thread 2024

[Chris_Sanders]

Teams that had at least two guys with more receiving yards than Wilson coming into today:

49ers
Cowboys
Bucs
Lions
Packers
Jets
Dolphins
Ravens
Texans
Seahawks
Jags
Chiefs
Eagles
Giants
Raiders

The only team that had 4 guys with more receiving yards coming into today than Wilson was the 49ers. I’m guessing he’d be a top-4 pass catching option on about 30/32 teams depending on what you think of units like the Falcons and Seahawks. Top-3 option for at least half.

Top 2 unlikely. Top 3 likey. That was my exact thought

 

[GatorAZ]

Top 2 unlikely. Top 3 likey. That was my exact thought

There’s some bad rosters out there. Wilson would rank 1st or 2nd in receiving yards for these teams coming into today:

Panthers
Rams
Titans
Vikings
Bills
Commanders
Steelers
Bengals
Broncos
Chargers

Jayden Daniels 2nd best pass catcher in receptions/yards is Zach Ertz.

 

[DaHilg]

Not the centerpiece but JC is a top 10 RB in the NFL especially when the passing game is productive

He’s certainly not a top 10 back in the year 2024. That’s a wild claim.

 

[Redsz]

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Who could have seen this coming?

And I bet MO will continue to sit on his hands all season.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think some of the bad routes we have seen might have been cleaned up. Seeing stuff like Benson unable to lineup and do a basic handoff is practice and coaching

Benson got preseason play, though.

 

[HairZach]

He’s certainly not a top 10 back in the year 2024. That’s a wild claim.

He objectively is a top 10 running back right now.
He's 7th in the league in rushing yards.
He has the 2nd most broken tackles in the league, only behind Derrick Henry.
Conner is 3rd in the league in yards after contact.
Conner is 2nd in the league in rushes that go at least 10 yards
Conner is 7th in the league in rushes that go at least 20 yards.

We will see if he can sustain it, he did get injured today, but right now he is producing like a top 10 running back. If you're not impressed with Conner go watch some other teams play, the position group is a wasteland, especially with guys like Bijan and Breece Hall performing poorly.

Also, Conner was the 6th best running back in the league in 2023 in terms of yards, lead the league in rushes that go at least 20 yards and had the 3rd most broken tackles. Last year he proved he is definitely capable of sustaining top 10 play.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Benson got preseason play, though.

Yeah it just wasn't much, which struck me as wild because he didn't really take Carter's role

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Ultimately my poorly explained point was that not playing in the preseason seems to have no correlation with injuries hitting the team.

With a young team I would prefer them to get as many reps as possible.

 

[Russ Smith]

Most frustrating drive for me was when we actually had a chance to get back in the game were moving the ball well. Kyler takes a delay of game while looking right at the play clock. Beachum follows that up with not lining up on the line of scrimmage. Two vets and leaders of the team nonetheless. Many other mistakes I was screaming at for sure but this drove me crazy.

True but if you watch Kyler had 2 rookies on the field I think Benson and Weaver and he was trying to get them set, and lost track of the clock. on him but it's a function of the young guys not knowing where to line up yet

 

[DaHilg]

He objectively is a top 10 running back right now.
He's 7th in the league in rushing yards.
He has the 2nd most broken tackles in the league, only behind Derrick Henry.
Conner is 3rd in the league in yards after contact.
Conner is 2nd in the league in rushes that go at least 10 yards
Conner is 7th in the league in rushes that go at least 20 yards.

We will see if he can sustain it, he did get injured today, but right now he is producing like a top 10 running back. If you're not impressed with Conner go watch some other teams play, the position group is a wasteland, especially with guys like Bijan and Breece Hall performing poorly.

There isn’t a team in this league that would take JC over Bijan or Breece.

 

[Russ Smith]

one thing I guess, Weaver showed something today. He was open on the one Kyler missed and there was an earlier play a screen play where had Kyler had time to look Weaver actually broke open in the left corner for a TD. But we not only didn't have time to throw that route, we didn't even have time to complete the screen.

 

[DVontel]

There isn’t a team in this league that would take JC over Bijan or Breece.

I don’t you think you’ve watched Breece this year to say that.

 

[HairZach]

There isn’t a team in this league that would take JC over Bijan or Breece.

That's based on their potential rather than their actual play. Breece has been awful this year by the way.

Even if you insert Bijan and Breece into the top 10, Conner would still be in the top 10, its not like he's number 10.

 

[Red on White]

I can't remember the last time a defense gave up that many penalties smh

Felt like we managed to time our penalties for each of the handful of times the defence made a good play

 

[Red on White]

Seeing stuff like Benson unable to lineup and do a basic handoff is practice and coaching

Who drives that?

Would Kyler and Benson have practised that handoff so often they could do it blindfolded?

Doesn't look like a well-drilled team at times

 

[kerouac9]

Are we saying in the top 3 or top 2?

Top 3

 

[Cheesebeef]

That's based on their potential rather than their actual play. Breece has been awful this year by the way.

Even if you insert Bijan and Breece into the top 10, Conner would still be in the top 10, its not like he's number 10.

The funny thing is that the Kyler stans find all kinds of made up stats to claim he’s a top 10, even TOP 5 QB at times, but when you give actual stats of Conner, which by every metric that actually matters moving the football, show he’s a top 10 RB, they somehow disagree.

 

[602 Native]

The funny thing is that the Kyler stans find all kinds of made up stats to claim he’s a top 10, even TOP 5 QB at times, but when you give actual stats of Conner, which by every metric that actually matters moving the football, show he’s a top 10 RB, they somehow disagree.

Name the people who say this?

 

[slanidrac16]

You have to love Connor but everytime I see him running wide I want to throw something at the tv. He should NEVER run more than 1 gap outside the tackle.

 

[K1Day1]

Okay, after just seeing the score of the Lions vs Cowboys game. Maybe the Cardinals aren't the only team that has No defense.

 

[Russ Smith]

Stat I just read. Murray entered todays game the top rated passer on throws that were over 2.5 seconds from the snap and 30th in throws under 2.5 seconds from the snap. In 2021 he was 9th in throws under 2021, so what's the problem? Wr's can't get open fast enough for a quick hitting short drop passing attack to work, Murray and receivers(Marv) not on the same page.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Stat I just read. Murray entered todays game the top rated passer on throws that were over 2.5 seconds from the snap and 30th in throws under 2.5 seconds from the snap. In 2021 he was 9th in throws under 2021, so what's the problem? Wr's can't get open fast enough for a quick hitting short drop passing attack to work, Murray and receivers(Marv) not on the same page.

Makes sense. He is accurate when able to go through his reads. Gets uncomfortable when blitzed

 

[Redsz]

Also, this goes without saying, but Murphy Bunting needs to be benched.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He’s certainly not a top 10 back in the year 2024. That’s a wild claim.

@602 Native here’s one for starters.

 

[DVontel]

I’m genuinely curious what has the defense averaged in PPG/Yards within the past 10 years

No way it hasn’t been bottom 12 in the league.