Quarterback Decision Looms

[RugbyMuffin]

Urban: With training camp ending, is it Leinart or Warner?
http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2484

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Do the Cardinals have to ramp up contract negotiations with Warner, scheduled to be a free agent after the season?

Just another reason why it is smarter to name Leinart the starter at the beginning of the season. I still stick by my opinion about the better QB (whomever it turns out to be) starting. But it makes sense to name Matt the starter at the beginning of the season.

Last thing we need is another contract on the table asking too much money.

 

[DoTheDew]

Do the Cardinals have to ramp up contract negotiations with Warner, scheduled to be a free agent after the season?

Just another reason why it is smarter to name Leinart the starter at the beginning of the season. I still stick by my opinion about the better QB (whomever it turns out to be) starting. But it makes sense to name Matt the starter at the beginning of the season.

Last thing we need is another contract on the table asking too much money.

That contradicts this.

It's not about "it's time to play Leinart" or "we know what he have in Warner" it is about putting the best QB on the field

Not to say it doesn't lead to the same starter, as that is a matter of opinion, but it is a contradiction non the less.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

That contradicts this.
Not to say it doesn't lead to the same starter, as that is a matter of opinion, but it is a contradiction non the less.

Reading is fundamental.

Do the Cardinals have to ramp up contract negotiations with Warner, scheduled to be a free agent after the season?

Just another reason why it is smarter to name Leinart the starter at the beginning of the season. I still stick by my opinion about the better QB (whomever it turns out to be) starting. But it makes sense to name Matt the starter at the beginning of the season.

Last thing we need is another contract on the table asking too much money.

And just to be clear, byt the beginning of the season, I meant beginning of the entire season, meaning beginning of OTA, camp, etc., etc.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Is there a link to the article by Urban? The new "tag" feature is really idiotic.

 

[CardLogic]

Is there a link to the article by Urban?

http://www.azcardinals.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2484

 

[82CardsGrad]

Lincoln Kennedy stated this morning on 910 Extra Sports, that in his opinion, the Cards can ONLY get to the playoffs with Warner at QB... Wow!!

Oh - I agree!

 

[Joe L]

Lincoln Kennedy stated this morning on 910 Extra Sports, that in his opinion, the Cards can ONLY get to the playoffs with Warner at QB... Wow!!

Oh - I agree!

Ditto!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What has Kurt done this year to prove that he is better than Matt?

Anyone?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I think the Cardinals can go the playoffs with either QB.

And they better be able to since niether QB has shown the ability to make through 16 games.

 

[Mulli]

What has Kurt done this year to prove that he is better than Matt?

Anyone?

He got older.

82/LACFJOE

 

[FArting]

Is there a QB controversy? I think Leinart should start.

 

[Joe L]

What has Kurt done this year to prove that he is better than Matt?

Anyone?

Shouldn't the question be:

What has Matt done this year & last to prove that he is better than Kurt?

IR isn't a reason to keep your job.

 

[82CardsGrad]

He got older.

82/LACFJOE

Yea... It's not like Lincoln Kennedy has any context or first-hand knowledge to base his conclusion on...

 

[Joe L]

Is there a QB controversy? I think Leinart should start.

Based on potential?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Shouldn't the question be:

What has Matt done this year & last to prove that he is better than Kurt?

IR isn't a reason to keep your job.

Um, no. Coach named him the starter, and he has outperformed Kurt so far this year. You need to come up with a better reason to overturn what the coach says, not the other way around.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Um, no. Coach named him the starter, and he has outperformed Kurt so far this year. You need to come up with a better reason to overturn what the coach says, not the other way around.

Huh?? Kurt has played one quarter of one game... Matt has played in two games... Aside from that, exactly how has Matt outplayed Warner in that time??

 

[FArting]

Based on potential?

Yes. I've been hearing on the radio who should start most people think Warner should start.

 

[Russ Smith]

Huh?? Kurt has played one quarter of one game... Matt has played in two games... Aside from that, exactly how has Matt outplayed Warner in that time??

preseason so hard to judge but Kurt's rating is 82.6, Matt is at 114.6. Kurt at 6 YPA, Matt at 8.1, the attempts are way too low to make any determinations but the fact is in the limited action they've had, Matt has outplayed Kurt statistically.

And Whiz made Matt the starter based on what he'd seen in offseason and OTA's etc, so it's reasonable to assume Matt did something there to earn it unless we just believe that Whiz hates Warner.

 

[Joe L]

Um, no. Coach named him the starter, and he has outperformed Kurt so far this year. You need to come up with a better reason to overturn what the coach says, not the other way around.

DCR, that was not the question you asked.

Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks
What has Kurt done this year to prove that he is better than Matt?

Anyone?

Kurt hasn't really had a chance to prove anything. If you keep him out of the first game and 2 series in the last, how can he prove he is better?

With that said, shouldn't Matt prove he is better than Kurt in order to keep "his" job considering the way Matt stunk it up last season?

 

[82CardsGrad]

preseason so hard to judge but Kurt's rating is 82.6, Matt is at 114.6. Kurt at 6 YPA, Matt at 8.1, the attempts are way too low to make any determinations but the fact is in the limited action they've had, Matt has outplayed Kurt statistically.

And Whiz made Matt the starter based on what he'd seen in offseason and OTA's etc, so it's reasonable to assume Matt did something there to earn it unless we just believe that Whiz hates Warner.

That's right - the numbers at this stage in preseason are meaningless... It's hard to argue that when Warner is running the offense, it moves the way it should, versus when Matt is running the offense...

Also, according to what Lincoln Kennedy and MJ were saying this morning, it is not at all the case that Matt has done "something" in camp to warrant being named the starter.
IMO - I believe ownership is placing a great deal of pressure on Whiz to run with Matt as the starter... They know Matt is far more marketable than Kurt...

Hopefully Matt will step up and prove so many doubters wrong...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Huh?? Kurt has played one quarter of one game... Matt has played in two games...Matt threw a touchdown... Matt executed the offense better Aside from that, exactly how has Matt outplayed Warner in that time??

fixed that for you. Again, you have to prove that Kurt has done more than Matt to rationalize changing the decision that Whisenhunt made. I'm ready when you are.....

 

[Joe L]

preseason so hard to judge but Kurt's rating is 82.6, Matt is at 114.6. Kurt at 6 YPA, Matt at 8.1, the attempts are way too low to make any determinations but the fact is in the limited action they've had, Matt has outplayed Kurt statistically.

The stats would have been different had Wise kept Matt out during the second half of the KC game. Wise gave Matt a chance to redeem his poor play in the first half...against a less formidable defensive team.

And Whiz made Matt the starter based on what he'd seen in offseason and OTA's etc, so it's reasonable to assume Matt did something there to earn it unless we just believe that Whiz hates Warner.

Wise made Matt the starter cause he said no one loses their job due to injury.

 

[Mulli]

Yea... It's not like Lincoln Kennedy has any context or first-hand knowledge to base his conclusion on...

He has less first-hard knowledge than the HC does.

 

[joeshmo]

IMO - I believe ownership is placing a great deal of pressure on Whiz to run with Matt as the starter... They know Matt is far more marketable than Kurt...

I find that very hard to believe for one simple reason. Season Tickets.

If we dont win this year and are again be just average again, Ownership can kiss their season ticket purchases goodbye. They still havent sold out their season tickets for this season and if they think it was ahrd this year they should try doing it after another average or below average season. That is where the money is at, not marketing Matt whom ownership gets zero dollars from anything Matt Markets. The only thing they can make money off of Matt is Jerseys and Jersey sales are somewhat shared with the revenue sharing system that is in place so it is small change compared to selling out the stadium.

If Ownership wants to make money or to market themselves they know the only way to do that is to Win. Becuase of that and Wiz pride and his coaching staffs pride, ownership will let coach pick whom he feels gives the best shot at winning and selling out the stadium next season.