Rockets Interested in Morris?

[KloD]

Anderson was out tonight with a sudden illness. I may be off, but it seems pretty clear to me that they are waiting until the 15th when other players are available to complete a trade. With Morris sitting out (can't risk his getting injured) and now Anderson sitting out "ill" too. Seems clear something is going down very soon. Of course if nothing happens I reserve the right to come up with a completely different explanation.

 

[BC867]

Anderson was out tonight with a sudden illness. I may be off, but it seems pretty clear to me that they are waiting until the 15th when other players are available to complete a trade. With Morris sitting out (can't risk his getting injured) and now Anderson sitting out "ill" too. Seems clear something is going down very soon. Of course if nothing happens I reserve the right to come up with a completely different explanation.

Right now, it's a prediction. "Lookin' good! I hope it happens.

 

[Catlover]

Anderson was out tonight with a sudden illness. I may be off, but it seems pretty clear to me that they are waiting until the 15th when other players are available to complete a trade. With Morris sitting out (can't risk his getting injured) and now Anderson sitting out "ill" too. Seems clear something is going down very soon. Of course if nothing happens I reserve the right to come up with a completely different explanation.

Maybe but sometimes the flu is just the flu. We'll see. I do believe they're going to trade Anderson and we're going to trade Markieff, I just hope they aren't in the same deal.

 

[KloD]

Maybe but sometimes the flu is just the flu. We'll see. I do believe they're going to trade Anderson and we're going to trade Markieff, I just hope they aren't in the same deal.

Yep, that will be my explanation should nothing come of this.
I'd prefer they go after a young PF, not really sure who, but I'm guessing Suns management wants to make the playoffs pretty bad and will instead go after someone who can help this year.

 

[Catlover]

Right now, it's a prediction. "Lookin' good! I hope it happens.

If it does, I suspect you'll end up hating the trade in short order. There aren't many softer defenders than Anderson.

 

[Catlover]

Yep, that will be my explanation should nothing come of this.
I'd prefer they go after a young PF, not really sure who, but I'm guessing Suns management wants to make the playoffs pretty bad and will instead go after someone who can help this year.

I agree, I just don't think he'll help us all that much. I'd try something like Markieff, Tucker, Goodwin and a pick for Noah and Portis. Noah doesn't have much left but he'd help a little and Portis could become our PF of the future.

 

[overseascardfan]

If it does, I suspect you'll end up hating the trade in short order. There aren't many softer defenders than Anderson.

Yeah but he is a stretch 4 who is a better rebounder than Morris. I don't see an all-around PF available as a trade option for PHX. Markieff has to go even if its to give Leuer & Tele more minutes.

 

[Catlover]

Yeah but he is a stretch 4 who is a better rebounder than Morris. I don't see an all-around PF available as a trade option for PHX. Markieff has to go even if its to give Leuer & Tele more minutes.

I like what we're getting from Leuer and especially Teletovic. Jeff seems comfortable now leaving Markeiff out of the rotation. If we trade for Anderson that won't be the case. He'll be the starter and we'll get to watch one of the softer defenders in the league play every night. Mirza is a better shooter and a better defender. Anderson beats him on the boards and that's about it. I'd rather leave Markieff on the bench until we can trade him for something that helps us longterm (pick or player).

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree, I just don't think he'll help us all that much. I'd try something like Markieff, Tucker, Goodwin and a pick for Noah and Portis. Noah doesn't have much left but he'd help a little and Portis could become our PF of the future.

I like Portis as well. Maybe the Suns could do a spin off on this trade with another team(s).

 

[Catlover]

I like Portis as well. Maybe the Suns could do a spin off on this trade with another team(s).

Are you thinking we don't need Noah or the Bulls won't want to add one more player than they're sending out? And I have no idea how the Bulls feel about Portis, for all I know he may be untouchable.

I think I'd also make a call to Philadelphia. Maybe something like Markieff, Tucker (or Goodwin if they prefer) and Len for Okafor, Landry and Covington. The numbers work out but it might require a 3rd team as Jerry isn't likely to move Okafor unless it's a step towards cleaning up the team's image.

But whichever way we go, I just hope it doesn't involve Anderson.

 

[Mainstreet]

Are you thinking we don't need Noah or the Bulls won't want to add one more player than they're sending out? And I have no idea how the Bulls feel about Portis, for all I know he may be untouchable.

I think I'd also make a call to Philadelphia. Maybe something like Markieff, Tucker (or Goodwin if they prefer) and Len for Okafor, Landry and Covington. The numbers work out but it might require a 3rd team as Jerry isn't likely to move Okafor unless it's a step towards cleaning up the team's image.

But whichever way we go, I just hope it doesn't involve Anderson.

On Noah, he is a nice piece but I do not see him wanting to play behind Chandler and Len. Any other season I would want the Suns knocking down doors to get him. He might be shipped elsewhere in your trade scenario for a SF or a first round draft pick. In regard to Portis, if the Suns could get him he would be on a rookie contract. I like his upside long term.

If the Suns traded for Anderson the Suns would have three PFs (Leuer, Mirza and Anderson) on expiring contracts. Also there is nothing to indicate Anderson would be nothing more than a rental unless the Suns want to throw huge cash at him. Also the Suns need to look for additional defense from the PF position.

In regard to other trades, I think the Suns would love to get a young talent plus a PF that could fill-in for Markieff. I think the Suns are likely waiting for December 15th for a reason.

 

[devilalum]

On Noah, he is a nice piece but I do not see him wanting to play behind Chandler and Len. Any other season I would want the Suns knocking down doors to get him. He might be shipped elsewhere in your trade scenario for a SF or a first round draft pick. In regard to Portis, if the Suns could get him he would be on a rookie contract. I like his upside long term.

If the Suns traded for Anderson the Suns would have three PFs (Leuer, Mirza and Anderson) on expiring contracts. Also there is nothing to indicate Anderson would be nothing more than a rental unless the Suns want to throw huge cash at him. Also the Suns need to look for additional defense from the PF position.

In regard to other trades, I think the Suns would love to get a young talent plus a PF that could fill-in for Markieff. I think the Suns are likely waiting for December 15th for a reason.

Anderson might be a rental but you know he's gonna bust his butt to play well being unrestricted in a contract year. He's currently putting up career numbers.

 

[Mainstreet]

Anderson might be a rental but you know he's gonna bust his butt to play well being unrestricted in a contract year. He's currently putting up career numbers.

It sounds like you are in a go for it now mode. I'm not sure the Suns are ready but sneaking into the playoffs might be good for the fans and the franchise. I'd like to have a young player for the future in any deal even if it means giving up a draft pick. It looks like the Suns are looking at Anderson. Maybe they can do a spin-off trade with another team as well.

 

[devilalum]

It sounds like you are in a go for it now mode. I'm not sure the Suns are ready but sneaking into the playoffs might be good for the fans and the franchise. I'd like to have a young player for the future in any deal even if it means giving up a draft pick. It looks like the Suns are looking at Anderson. Maybe they can do a spin-off trade with another team as well.

I'm not really in go for it now mode. I just think the team needs to learn how to win consistently. The thought of another pick in the 10-14 range is depressing. Anderson coming off the books next summer isn't the worst thing that could happen. Like you said, if nothing else Anderson would also be a nice expiring contract at the deadline. I'm assuming they could trade him again?

Also I can't imagine that there will be a lot of great offers for Morris. If true this might be the best offer available.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm not really in go for it now mode. I just think the team needs to learn how to win consistently. The thought of another pick in the 10-14 range is depressing. Anderson coming off the books next summer isn't the worst thing that could happen. Like you said, if nothing else Anderson would also be a nice expiring contract at the deadline. I'm assuming they could trade him again?

Anderson would become a free agent after the season. The only way the Suns could trade him if the Suns signed him to a new contract. Then they would have to wait. If the Suns signed him in the offseason, I don't think they will be looking to trade him.

Also I can't imagine that there will be a lot of great offers for Morris. If true this might be the best offer available.

Maybe this might be the best offer for Markieff but there is a reason why McDonough is holding tight at the moment. Maybe there will be more options or different players who will become available around December 15th.

 

[devilalum]

Anderson would become a free agent after the season. The only way the Suns could trade him if the Suns signed him to a new contract. Then they would have to wait. If the Suns signed him in the offseason, I don't think they will be looking to trade him.



Maybe this might be the best offer for Markieff but there is a reason why McDonough is holding tight at the moment. Maybe there will be more options or different players who will become available around December 15th.

They could.trade Anderson's exp. contract for a longer contract amd a pick etc......

Unless you're saying thats against the rules.

It doesn't seem like teams are doing this as much lately but you never know.

 

[Mainstreet]

They could.trade Anderson's exp. contract for a longer contract amd a pick etc......

Unless you're saying thats against the rules.

It doesn't seem like teams are doing this as much lately but you never know.

You raise an interesting point. There are a lot of "ifs" "ands" and "buts." The Pelican's can trade Anderson (which is an expiring contract) for any trade that works but I don't think the Suns could trade Anderson again unless it happened immediately during the trade or perhaps in the off season to help the player to get more money going to a team in the trade. Sort of like the Suns trading Steve Nash to the Lakers and getting two first round picks in return?

I'm not saying in any way that I am correct.

 

[hcsilla]

You can trade away an acquired player immediately but only alone not combined with other players.

 

[Mainstreet]

It could be the Suns might trade other players before Markieff. Of course the Suns would be wise to take this stance unless they receive a reasonable offer. It may all be a smokescreen. McDonough knows how to pull the trigger on big trades.

Are you hearing anything new about a Markieff Morris trade? Steve Kyler: Nothing new… Suns will listen… not sold there is anything close enough to call it progressing.
6 hours ago – via Twitter stevekylerNBA

Steve Kyler: Ty was told by the team they were not trading him. They have been talking about other players. Nothing close
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[devilalum]

It could be the Suns might trade other players before Markieff. Of course the Suns would be wise to take this stance unless they receive a reasonable offer. It may all be a smokescreen. McDonough knows how to pull the trigger on big trades.

http://hoopshype.com/tag/trade/

How many years has he been talking about making the big trade for a star?

I'm not saying its an easy task but it is his job.

How are the Suns a better team now than when he took over?
And even if they have improved incrementally, have they improved enough?
Remember, we're about to set a franchise record for years without a playoff appearance.

 

[Phrazbit]

How many years has he been talking about making the big trade for a star?

I'm not saying its an easy task but it is his job.

How are the Suns a better team now than when he took over?
And even if they have improved incrementally, have they improved enough?
Remember, we're about to set a franchise record for years without a playoff appearance.

I don't see how that is even a question. The Suns were not only one of the worst teams in the NBA when he took over but they were also old. They had little cap room and no young players to build around and had just put up the worst season since the franchise's birth. Everyone here thought it would be years before the team was competitive in any sense of the word.

I think the gains in talent on the court have been massive, and accomplished while making one of the younger teams in the league. We can harp about not having a superstar but how were we supposed to get one? They needed to build up a base of quality players to convince a star to come here and we certainly lacked the assets to trade for one when he took over.

McD took over an absolute dumpster fire. The fire is out, there is a lot of promise and a lot of talent on the roster. He certainly deserves more time... Horny I'm not as convinced about. When the team only has a losing record because they repeatedly blow leads late that isn't on the GM.

 

[Mainstreet]

How many years has he been talking about making the big trade for a star?

I'm not saying its an easy task but it is his job.

How are the Suns a better team now than when he took over?
And even if they have improved incrementally, have they improved enough?
Remember, we're about to set a franchise record for years without a playoff appearance.

Ryan McDonough was hired by the Suns on May 7, 2013 so there is that. IMO, it is much too early to evaluate him. He tried to find a star in Brandon Knight trade which I think the jury is still out on him.

There was the drafting of Alex Len in 2013 draft and TJ Warren in the 2014 draft. Also there was the drafting of Devin Booker in the 2015 draft. Sure they missed on Archie Goodwin and Tyler Ennis but these things happen. The jury is still out on Bogdan Bogdanovic. Overall I view the draft as a success under McDonough.

The Suns added Leuer (for a 2nd round pick) and Mirza Televonic as a free agent plus Ronnie Price. Plus there was the signing of Tyson Chandler which almost helped the Suns land Aldridge. Overall I think these were good acquisitions with the exception of Sonny Weems. Let's not forget Dragic and IT wanted out but the Suns received three first round draft picks in their departure.

I think the Suns are taking swings at the plate trying to find a star as in their pursuit of Aldridge.

Yes, I think the Suns are improved with the exception of PF (Markieff) and SF (Tucker). Hopefully the Suns will take step towards correcting these issues before the trade deadline.

 

[Phrazbit]

In the end Dragic did us a favor. If not for his cry baby routine we'd be the ones paying him some insane contract. Knight is younger, better and on a cheaper contract.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Ryan McDonough was hired by the Suns on May 7, 2013 so there is that. IMO, it is much too early to evaluate him. He tried to find a star in Brandon Knight trade which I think the jury is still out on him.

There was the drafting of Alex Len in 2013 draft and TJ Warren in the 2014 draft. Also there was the drafting of Devin Booker in the 2015 draft. Sure they missed on Archie Goodwin and Tyler Ennis but these things happen. The jury is still out on Bogdan Bogdanovic. Overall I view the draft as a success under McDonough.

The Suns added Leuer (for a 2nd round pick) and Mirza Televonic as a free agent plus Ronnie Price. Plus there was the signing of Tyson Chandler which almost helped the Suns land Aldridge. Overall I think these were good acquisitions with the exception of Sonny Weems. Let's not forget Dragic and IT wanted out but the Suns received three first round draft picks in their departure.

I think the Suns are taking swings at the plate trying to find a star as in their pursuit of Aldridge.

Yes, I think the Suns are improved with the exception of PF (Markieff) and SF (Tucker). Hopefully the Suns will take step towards correcting these issues before the trade deadline.

In the end Dragic did us a favor. If not for his cry baby routine we'd be the ones paying him some insane contract. Knight is younger, better and on a cheaper contract.

Seriously... does the question about how the Suns are better under McDonough need a response at all??

 

[Mainstreet]

Seriously... does the question about how the Suns are better under McDonough need a response at all??

I think those were fair questions. Fans want to see results.

Plus we like to talk.