Ryan Lindley, starter vs Rams

[Shane]

Whis is so toast...

Bet?

 

[Gee!]

After Lindley finishes the Rams game with a completion average in the 50% range, remember his college career completion average was just 55% and than included playing against the smaller schools with crummy pass defenses.

So the Cards plan was to help Lindley relearn how to properly pass the ball to increase his accuracy. 9 for 20 in the Falcons game did nothing to show that he will ever be an over 60% passer. Lindley lasted until the 6th round so lots of teams had chances to pick him before the Cards took a gamble on him. So far, he has not busted down the doors like any of the successful rookie QBs of the past few years who showed what they can do right out of the gate. Besides, no team today, including the Cards, would give the player Kurt Warner was right out of college a decent chance to develop in today's game.

Lame just lame..

We have no idea what we have in Lindley.. We know what we have in Skelton.. And thats a lame duck QB..

So your telling me you wanna keep rolling with a loser QB?

Think about it dude.. This season may be over.. Although I am not giving up hope.. But if it is.. We need to see what we have cuz the current QB (Skelton) is a POS..

 

[Gee!]

Whis is so toast...

I honestly think you couldnt be more out of touch with this team..

Your calves must be sexy though with all the jumping on and off bandwagons your doing

 

[machgman]

Nope, it signaled to the team that Whiz has given up

To me it signaled that we wanted to win.. And will do whatever we need to do to win.. Cant miss Fitz wide open..

Maybe that is what it meant to rabid Skelton Haters. To the rest of us and even the national sports experts, it signaled that Whisenhut is panicking and grasping at straws hoping that some miracle will come his way just as he thought Max Hall would give him decent QB play in actual games after impressing Whisenhut in their practices.

Whisenhut owes all of his head coaching success to Kurt Warner. Once Warner left, Whisenhut's offense has been toothless and ineffective. No wonder many fans point out that Whisenhut has no clue on how to develop or play or manage QBs. If Whisenhut had not lucked out with Kurt Warner on his roster, Whisenhut would have been fired by the Bidwills many years ago.

 

[Shane]

I honestly think you couldnt be more out of touch with this team..

Your calves must be sexy though with all the jumping on and off bandwagons your doing

Now thats funny right there.

 

[MrYeahBut]

After Lindley finishes the Rams game with a completion average in the 50% range, remember his college career completion average was just 55% and than included playing against the smaller schools with crummy pass defenses. .

How dare you call my New Mexico Lobos crummy... oh wait, they're worse than crummy, they lost to Lindley 35-7.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe that is what it meant to rabid Skelton Haters.

lol... Skelton Haters. If you think I'm one of those, you haven't been around here much considering I was dubbed a Kolb hater earlier in the season when I said Skelton, through no real great shakes of his own, should be the starter.

The idea that ANY Cardinals fan likes Kolb or Skelton at this point is high comedy to me, but that's beside the point.

To the rest of us and even the national sports experts, it signaled that Whisenhut is panicking and grasping at straws hoping that some miracle will come his way just as he thought Max Hall would give him decent QB play in actual games after impressing Whisenhut in their practices.

a) the national media doesn't watch every one of these games like we do.

b) the rest of "us" is so consistently wrong on this board, that "us"'s opinion isn't worth being printed on toilet paper. harsh? yes. true? yes.

c) he is grasping at straws and hoping for a miracle because the reality is that he's painted himself in a corner with the worst QB situation I've ever seen and he finally realized that Skelton just doesn't deserve to be on an NFL field, much less an NFL roster at this point. So, he did whatever he could... move on to hope and praying, because anything else is an exercise in futility. and to be honest, hope and praying is an exercise in futility as well, but at least you hold out for a miracle that way. Skelton's shown he's all out of miracles. used 'em up last season. thus, time to try and find a new miracle man before the coach is fully run out of town.

Whisenhut owes all of his head coaching success to Kurt Warner. Once Warner left, Whisenhut's offense has been toothless and ineffective. No wonder many fans point out that Whisenhut has no clue on how to develop or play or manage QBs. If Whisenhut had not lucked out with Kurt Warner on his roster, Whisenhut would have been fired by the Bidwills many years ago.[/QUOTE]

 

[machgman]

Lame just lame..

We have no idea what we have in Lindley.. We know what we have in Skelton.. And thats a lame duck QB..

So your telling me you wanna keep rolling with a loser QB?

Think about it dude.. This season may be over.. Although I am not giving up hope.. But if it is.. We need to see what we have cuz the current QB (Skelton) is a POS..

Now you are being silly.

When was the last time a 6th rounder rookie QB came into a real NFL game and won it with his passing? Brady was the last time and he had prep time and started. Besides that, he had excellent stats at Michigan and won upper tier games.

In Lindley, you have none of those.

Besides, we already know a great deal of what we have in Lindley as he did absolutely nothing to win the Falcons game when he had plenty of opportunities to do so. AND he lost the fumble that lost the game for the Cards.

Or do you want to ignore reality and ague with the facts? Hey, remember, we ain't talkin' about your fantasy football team here. Just the facts, and your boy Lindley stunk up the Falcons game or do you think 9 for 20 attempts with very little yardage with the game losing fumble was a good career defining game?

 

[Cheesebeef]

answer me this folks. If Wiz really had given up... why would he make any change at all? the idea of giving up to me means a coach doesn't care and throws his hands in the air. That to me would mean staying with the status quo, as opposed to taking a risk and opening yourself to second guessing. Taking risks might not be the right thing to do, but the very idea of taking a risk and going with something different flies in the face of the idea of someone's given up.

 

[Gee!]

Maybe that is what it meant to rabid Skelton Haters. To the rest of us and even the national sports experts, it signaled that Whisenhut is panicking and grasping at straws hoping that some miracle will come his way just as he thought Max Hall would give him decent QB play in actual games after impressing Whisenhut in their practices.

Whisenhut owes all of his head coaching success to Kurt Warner. Once Warner left, Whisenhut's offense has been toothless and ineffective. No wonder many fans point out that Whisenhut has no clue on how to develop or play or manage QBs. If Whisenhut had not lucked out with Kurt Warner on his roster, Whisenhut would have been fired by the Bidwills many years ago.

Im not responding to this ******** ****.. even though I just did..

 

[Cheesebeef]

Now you are being silly.

When was the last time a 6th rounder rookie QB came into a real NFL game and won it with his passing? Brady was the last time and he had prep time and started. Besides that, he had excellent stats at Michigan and won upper tier games.

In Lindley, you have none of those.

Besides, we already know a great deal of what we have in Lindley as he did absolutely nothing to win the Falcons game when he had plenty of opportunities to do so. AND he lost the fumble that lost the game for the Cards.

was Lindley the one who dropped a 50 yard bomb that would have put us in scoring position? what about the 9 yard gain that Floyd dropped on third down that would have put us in field goal range? Or what about the 25 yard perfect fade thrown to Fitz that would have put us at the 2 yard line on fourth down? Were those plays "absolutely nothing"?

now, that's not to say Lindley played well, but he made three great throws that would have put us in scoring positon that were all just flat DROPPED by a HOF WR, our #2 WR and our first round pick. That can't really be debated, can it?

 

[desertdawg]

This news will rock the Fantasy Football world!!!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

This news will rock the Fantasy Football world!!!!

lol.

 

[Gee!]

Or do you want to ignore reality and ague with the facts?

Reality and facts.. Facts are Jack we are on a 6 game losing streak.. Facts are redneck Skelton has absolutly nothing in any of them games but have Fitz hang his head in shame..

What exactly do you see in Skelton that the rest of us are missing?

 

[Big D]

So what we're dealing with here is for the 3rd straight season our playoff hopes are dashed before Thanksgiving and each season has been reduced to little more than "seeing what so and so has" at the QB position.

AND to top it off it's not like its just one guy each year that we are putting in there to "see what he has" We have literally been saying this about 2 or 3 guys every season for the past three years. Its truly unbelievable.

At what point do we come to the conclusion that the HC has no idea what the hell he is doing when it comes to the QB position? And at what point is he actually going to be held accountable??

 

[Stronso]

I honestly think you couldnt be more out of touch with this team..

Your calves must be sexy though with all the jumping on and off bandwagons your doing

Bwahahahahahaha

 

[Cheesebeef]

So what we're dealing with here is for the 3rd straight season our playoff hopes are dashed before Thanksgiving and each season has been reduced to little more than "seeing what so and so has" at the QB position.

AND to top it off it's not like its just one guy each year that we are putting in there to "see what he has" We have literally been saying this about 2 or 3 guys every season for the past three years. Its truly unbelievable.

At what point do we come to the conclusion that the HC has no idea what the hell he is doing when it comes to the QB position? And at what point is he actually going to be held accountable??

this I agree with. Wiz seemingly has zero clue whatsoever what it takes to find a QB.

 

[football karma]

I think a lot of things all came together to cause Skelton to get pulled

1. I agree wholeheartedly with the "straw that broke the camels back" theory, and as Somers pointed out, we don't know how many bad reads Skelton made prior to that final throw

2. It looks like Kolb will be back in two weeks-- and he will start the final four games ( assuming health, a big assumption). The team does have to find something out about Lindley. This gives them three games ( including ATL) to see what they have.

3. Whis must feel pretty secure about his job ( or simply doesn't care). Pretty ballsy putting a rookie QB in the game, on the road against the best team in the conference, all while trying to break a 5 game losing streak. I suppose a $5.5 mm guaranteed payment next year will do that for you.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

i really don't get this. Skelton has shown this season that he literally gives us ZERO chance to win. He's a known quantity at this point. A guy who is horrific, plain and simple. At least with an unknown quantity, you don't know for sure what's going to happen.

the idea that he quit on the Falcons game because he took out the guy he KNEW couldn't lead the team anywhere makes zero sense to me.

If abuse of one adjective were a crime, you'd be doing time.

Synonyms:

abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, beastly, bloodcurdling, cruel, detestable, disagreeable, disgusting, dreadful, eerie, execrable, fearful, frightful, ghastly, grim, grisly, gross*, gruesome, hair-raising, heinous, hideous, horrid, loathsome, lousy

Notes:

in decreasing degree of horror: horrific , horrendous , horrible , horrid

 

[Cheesebeef]

If abuse of one adjective were a crime, you'd be doing time.

Synonyms:

abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, beastly, bloodcurdling, cruel, detestable, disagreeable, disgusting, dreadful, eerie, execrable, fearful, frightful, ghastly, grim, grisly, gross*, gruesome, hair-raising, heinous, hideous, horrid, loathsome, lousy

Notes:

in decreasing degree of horror: horrific , horrendous , horrible , horrid

None if them truly represent my feelings toward anything regarding the QB situation.

 

[Mulli]

Way more likely to watch this garbage game with the Linder starting.

 

[Dayman]

I'm happy that we don't have to sit through another week of Skelton, but starting Lindley at all this season is nuts. I don't think anyone viewed Lindley as first year starter material coming out of the draft. This offense is a nightmare.

 

[OmahaCardsFan]

i agree with all of this and is the biggest reason I had no problem with the benching mid game. He wasn't benched just because of that pass... he was benched because that pass was the last straw that broke the camel's back. not sure how a lot of you don't get that.

I sure as hekc get that! Def... common sense imho.

 

[Chopper0080]

Good

 

[Buckybird]

12 in a row is now a possibility...unless Kolb gets his shot to bail us out!