Sims > LT

[Redcoyote]

Sims hasn't even won 3rd position on the depth chart and people are trying to move him up to second?

Stanton has reached his max potential as a backup and he clearly has his weaknesses.

LT was a gamble when drafted that appears unlikely to pan out at this time.

Sims is a 4th string quarterback playing in the 4th quarter of preseason games. His play may justify the debate over whether he should be third or not but he has not done anything to warrant being the backup at this point. Stanton is far from perfect but I don't see any better UFA options left and I don't see Sims being ready to take that position for at least the first half of the season. If the team decides to keep 3 quarterbacks, If he wins the spot over LT, if he learns the system and outplays Stanton then it will be time to consider him as the backup. Until then that is a lot of IFS imo.

 

[WildBB]

Sims hasn't even won 3rd position on the depth chart and people are trying to move him up to second?

Stanton has reached his max potential as a backup and he clearly has his weaknesses.

LT was a gamble when drafted that appears unlikely to pan out at this time.

Sims is a 4th string quarterback playing in the 4th quarter of preseason games. His play may justify the debate over whether he should be third or not but he has not done anything to warrant being the backup at this point. Stanton is far from perfect but I don't see any better UFA options left and I don't see Sims being ready to take that position for at least the first half of the season. If the team decides to keep 3 quarterbacks, If he wins the spot over LT, if he learns the system and outplays Stanton then it will be time to consider him as the backup. Until then that is a lot of IFS imo.

The talk is, the potential is certainly there for Sims to be the #2. Just not this year, mtl. I think that they'd give him the reigns if something happened like last season, God forbid.

 

[TJ]

Pretty certain TJ was being sarcastic about Catfish's comments about Sims being better than Stanton.

Glad someone can read sarcasm on the Internet.

I should've put this in to help clarify.



God, I love preseason hype!!!

 

[Chopper0080]

The only thing I took away from this week was that Sims looked like he improved from the first game while Thomas looked the same. I will leave the decision to BA. Re: Stanton, I believe he is overrated, but neither of these guys look like they are pushing him.

 

[Catfish]

I am basing my choice of Sims over Stanton, on upside. Stanton has none other than what he has shown, and let's not forget that he is 'extremely' susceptible to concussion. One hard hit of his head to the turf and he can be done for the entire season, just like last year. To me that is not a ringing endorsement for a Back Up QB to your older starter.

Sims is clearly not as vested in knowing the play book as Stanton is, but his upside is far greater than what Stanton has ever shown, given the opportunity for Sims to learn the offense completely. Right now, I would be giving him all the reps with the ones and twos that he could handle, and probably then some. That, and the virtual reality system are the only way he can get beyond where he is now.

In my opinion, Sims is clearly a better leader than Stanton is right now, and has upside to develop that Stanton has already shown he does not have. Even Sim's arm seems to be more lively than Stanton's, and he certainly appears to be focused on finding a way to score, rather than simply focusing in on one receiver and staring him down.

Sorry, but I am a radical who believes that knowledge is wasted, unless it is vigorously utilized. Many people have the knowledge and the diplomas, but not many know how to put that knowledge to use. Stanton seems to me to be stagnant with his knowledge, and while Simms needs to learn more, he seems far more capable of doing that than Stanton does at this point in time. Sims is aggressively learning, while Stanton is content and comfortable where he is.

 

[Shaggy]

Glad someone can read sarcasm on the Internet.

I should've put this in to help clarify.



God, I love preseason hype!!!

I don't get how you couldn't see it as sarcasm.

 

[Shaggy]

I am basing my choice of Sims over Stanton, on upside. Stanton has none other than what he has shown, and let's not forget that he is 'extremely' susceptible to concussion. One hard hit of his head to the turf and he can be done for the entire season, just like last year. To me that is not a ringing endorsement for a Back Up QB to your older starter.

Sims is clearly not as vested in knowing the play book as Stanton is, but his upside is far greater than what Stanton has ever shown, given the opportunity for Sims to learn the offense completely. Right now, I would be giving him all the reps with the ones and twos that he could handle, and probably then some. That, and the virtual reality system are the only way he can get beyond where he is now.

In my opinion, Sims is clearly a better leader than Stanton is right now, and has upside to develop that Stanton has already shown he does not have. Even Sim's arm seems to be more lively than Stanton's, and he certainly appears to be focused on finding a way to score, rather than simply focusing in on one receiver and staring him down.

Sorry, but I am a radical who believes that knowledge is wasted, unless it is vigorously utilized. Many people have the knowledge and the diplomas, but not many know how to put that knowledge to use. Stanton seems to me to be stagnant with his knowledge, and while Simms needs to learn more, he seems far more capable of doing that than Stanton does at this point in time. Sims is aggressively learning, while Stanton is content and comfortable where he is.

For just the 2 games, why do you think Sims is more of a leader then Stanton? What did Sims do/say to make you think that?

 

[FlaCardFan]

I am basing my choice of Sims over Stanton, on upside. Stanton has none other than what he has shown, and let's not forget that he is 'extremely' susceptible to concussion. One hard hit of his head to the turf and he can be done for the entire season, just like last year. To me that is not a ringing endorsement for a Back Up QB to your older starter.

Sims is clearly not as vested in knowing the play book as Stanton is, but his upside is far greater than what Stanton has ever shown, given the opportunity for Sims to learn the offense completely. Right now, I would be giving him all the reps with the ones and twos that he could handle, and probably then some. That, and the virtual reality system are the only way he can get beyond where he is now.

In my opinion, Sims is clearly a better leader than Stanton is right now, and has upside to develop that Stanton has already shown he does not have. Even Sim's arm seems to be more lively than Stanton's, and he certainly appears to be focused on finding a way to score, rather than simply focusing in on one receiver and staring him down.

Sorry, but I am a radical who believes that knowledge is wasted, unless it is vigorously utilized. Many people have the knowledge and the diplomas, but not many know how to put that knowledge to use. Stanton seems to me to be stagnant with his knowledge, and while Simms needs to learn more, he seems far more capable of doing that than Stanton does at this point in time. Sims is aggressively learning, while Stanton is content and comfortable where he is.

I wholeheartedly agree with ya Catfish.....I just hope he is given the chance with at least the 2's for us to see what he has....

 

[TJ]

For those with a vested interest in Sims v. Thomas,

The Denver preseason game will most likely feature both Thomas and Sims playing the entire game (Thomas played all of the fourth PS game last year against San Diego). That'll be the deciding factor between which one stays on the team.

And for those who think Sims can be better than Stanton at this juncture, remember who the last UDFA who moved all the way up to 2nd string for this team during his rookie year?

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Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm not excited about the Cardinals backup QBs but I can't see where Stanton is not the number 2 QB. Maybe the Cardinals only keep two QBs and try to sneak Sims on the practice squad.

 

[gmabel830]

Didn't Logan look great against the 4th team defense last year? My only takeaway so far is that Sims is better at football than a bunch of future insurance salesmen.

 

[dreday]

I liked what I saw of Sims these first 2 games. He appears to have a lot of potential and upside. He's also good at reading the field and going through progressions. I hope he gets more reps and a shot at being our 3rd QB.

Stanton looked like hot garbage in these first 2 games.

I'm not a fan of LT but he may be a good weapon for the 2 point conversion.

 

[Cheesebeef]

For those with a vested interest in Sims v. Thomas,

The Denver preseason game will most likely feature both Thomas and Sims playing the entire game (Thomas played all of the fourth PS game last year against San Diego). That'll be the deciding factor between which one stays on the team.

And for those who think Sims can be better than Stanton at this juncture, remember who the last UDFA who moved all the way up to 2nd string for this team during his rookie year?

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Be careful what you wish for.

how that guy ever started a game, much less beat the defending Super Bowl champs in his FIRST start, could be the greatest mystery in the history of sports.

 

[ajcardfan]

Didn't Logan look great against the 4th team defense last year? My only takeaway so far is that Sims is better at football than a bunch of future insurance salesmen.

Only the second half of the first preseason game. He has been nothing short of a burning bag of dog turds ever since.

I hate watching LT play. I know our only chance to score with him in the game is a fluke play or crappy tackling by the defense. The team seems flat while he is out there too.

LT can't get out of here soon enough for me. Let some other team get suckered into wasting time on his "development".

 

[ajcardfan]

how that guy ever started a game, much less beat the defending Super Bowl champs in his FIRST start, could be the greatest mystery in the history of sports.

Which means he already has two accomplishments that Logan Thomas will NEVER match.

 

[Paso Fino]

If Sims doesn't make the 53 he will be gone because another team will pick him up immediately

 

[ajcardfan]

If Sims doesn't make the 53 he will be gone because another team will pick him up immediately

I'm sure most everyone knows.... but, just in case.

This Sims kids was given a scholarship by Ala-fricking-bama. That doesn't happen if you don't have game. Yeah, not all Alabama players make the NFL but getting into that program, at all, means a lot more than the huge majority of college programs.

 

[TJ]

I'm sure most everyone knows.... but, just in case.



This Sims kids was given a scholarship by Ala-fricking-bama. That doesn't happen if you don't have game. Yeah, not all Alabama players make the NFL but getting into that program, at all, means a lot more than the huge majority of college programs.

Alabama is not a QB factory for the NFL like it is for other positions, particularly on defense. Plus, he was beaten out by AJ McCarron. Where he was given scholarships at this point is really insignificant. He was highly recruited at the time, but his play obviously didn't translate into FBS success. An aside, but Sean Mannion, a 2-star recruit that year, was in Sims, a 5-star, recruiting class and had a much more successful college campaign and was drafted.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Re-watching the 4th quarter right now

Sims gets a lot of air under his long throws. He threw one ball up for grabs that would be picked off by starting DB's.

He does make some good throws. Has a good arm and finds the open guy. Some of these guys are wide open and when he throws in traffic he is not as accurate. Definitely brings energy to the team.

Really need to see more of him. Step up and playing with the 2's would show us a lot better where he really is.

 

[Shaggy]

LT will not be cut as he is BA's project and doesn't want the first year of training him to go to waste. They will keep 3 QBs and hope to get Sims to the PS.

 

[ajcardfan]

Alabama is not a QB factory for the NFL like it is for other positions, particularly on defense. Plus, he was beaten out by AJ McCarron. Where he was given scholarships at this point is really insignificant. He was highly recruited at the time, but his play obviously didn't translate into FBS success. An aside, but Sean Mannion, a 2-star recruit that year, was in Sims, a 5-star, recruiting class and had a much more successful college campaign and was drafted.

All that is true.... and it has nothing to do with Logan Thomas being a hot mess. To try and be clear, I think much more poorly about Thomas than I think highly of Sims.

 

[Dude]

LT will not be cut as he is BA's project and doesn't want the first year of training him to go to waste. They will keep 3 QBs and hope to get Sims to the PS.

He will dump him if he thinks Sims will be a better project. The man moves on fast. I'm glad he does.

 

[jbeecham]

According to an interview I just heard with Arians, Sims gets the start in the 4th pre-season game with LT coming in after him (assuming after half time). There won't be any playing time for Palmer or Stanton.

Sims starting tells me that he's probably in the lead for the 3rd QB position. At least it's something to make Thursdays game a little interesting.

 

[slanidrac16]

Sims...

Call me crazy but this kid shows a lot of poise, composure and quiet confidence.

The one play that really impressed me was when he ran for the first down. He took the snap and did not hesitate to sprint to his right. Any hesitation at all would not have allowed him to make the first down. It wasn't a panic scramble. It wasn't a desperation scramble. He read the situation and reacted ala Russell Wilson.

He's fast and he is accurate. He adds a dimension this o-line could really use.I don't know how much arm strength he has but it doesn't seem bad. I'm pretty sure he was going against the first string defense.

Please understand, I am not calling for him to be the starter. What I am saying is this kid needs to be kept on this team. The guy was a blue chip prospect heading into college. Was recruited by Alabama and was beat out by A.J. McCarron. He transferred and had academic issues.

I personally don't care if he gets calculus. He seems to understand the position and IMO is already more polished that Thomas.

Am I delusional?

 

[cardncubfan]

According to an interview I just heard with Arians, Sims gets the start in the 4th pre-season game with LT coming in after him (assuming after half time). There won't be any playing time for Palmer or Stanton.

Sims starting tells me that he's probably in the lead for the 3rd QB position. At least it's something to make Thursdays game a little interesting.

I think Arians knows what he has in LT & wants to see more of Sims. I just don't understand Sims decision not to correct his vision. Imo vision is a very important factor in playing the position. You would think he would do it just to be able to freaking see. I've worn contacts/glasses for 40+ years & it's irritating not being able to see things clearly.