Skelton, what to do?

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He's shown enough to be a QB of the future but do you pass on an elite QB prospect because of him? That's a big call on the Cards and I'm not sure what I'd do. Do you go with him and let him develope or, if you get the chance, do you trade up for Andrew Luck, or take a Scam Newton?
 

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You pass on anyone not named luck in the first...draft defense, and take Blaine if he's there in the second or you can trade into the late 1st for him. IF you can get luck, sell your sister for him. If not, pass on the rest.
 

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The easiest problem to solve in the NFL is "I have two good QBs"

If you have a chance at a good QB, you have to take it

Skelton has shown potential, but not enough to be "the answer"
 

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at the point we lost luck i think we stick with skelton and bring in the best veteran we can find, beef up the D and fire butch davis
 

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He's shown enough to be a QB of the future but do you pass on an elite QB prospect because of him? That's a big call on the Cards and I'm not sure what I'd do. Do you go with him and let him develope or, if you get the chance, do you trade up for Andrew Luck, or take a Scam Newton?

At this point the only guy I would take would be Andrew Luck. Otherwise get the best player regardless of position.
 

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We are not trading up for Luck, too many holes to fill. I'm not sure if he is the QBoF or not but somehow I don't see us picking a QB in the first round. After Luck all others have red flags.
 

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You never pass on a top QB. But of course we will all be fooled into believing that Skelton is the answer and we will suck again.
 

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Agreed. Bring in the best free agent available to compete with him. AND GET RID OF LEVI BROWN TO BRING IN A LT THAT CAN PROTECT THE QBs
 
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Agreed. Bring in the best free agent available to compete with him. AND GET RID OF LEVI BROWN TO BRING IN A LT THAT CAN PROTECT THE QBs
OT but Levi Brown played a great gane other than that last sack, which may, or may not have been on him. You hardly heard Ware's named called all night.
 

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Again, not to be a wet blanket, but Skelton's numbers aren't that good. While I'm willing to give him a pass because he didn't start playing until a few weeks ago but his completion % is only around 46%. This does not instill a whole lot of confidence but like I said, I need to see more. I do gotta give him props for one big plus and that's only 1 INT so at least he makes good decisions.
 

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You get competition for him and the plan varies depending on what's on the market. I will repeat COMPETITION.

If a good vet is available in FA or is available via trade on the somewhat cheap then get one. Draft a QB (not in round 1 unless by some miracle Luck falls to us) then have a battle for the job. Skelton is likely penciled in as starter on training camp roster but beyond that leave it open and unlike with Leinart, let him know its a competition from the very beginning to make sure you get the best out of everybody
 

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Again, not to be a wet blanket, but Skelton's numbers aren't that good. While I'm willing to give him a pass because he didn't start playing until a few weeks ago but his completion % is only around 46%. This does not instill a whole lot of confidence but like I said, I need to see more. I do gotta give him props for one big plus and that's only 1 INT so at least he makes good decisions.

Part of those numbers are his fault (typical rookie mistakes - staring down receivers, bad mechanics). Some are not (horrific playcalling, drops, drops, and more drops)

You can't base everything on numbers
 

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Again, not to be a wet blanket, but Skelton's numbers aren't that good. While I'm willing to give him a pass because he didn't start playing until a few weeks ago but his completion % is only around 46%. This does not instill a whole lot of confidence but like I said, I need to see more. I do gotta give him props for one big plus and that's only 1 INT so at least he makes good decisions.
And fewer sacks due to his surprising mobility. He only has 5 compared to Hall's 14 with same number of pass attempts.
 

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He's shown enough to be a QB of the future but do you pass on an elite QB prospect because of him? That's a big call on the Cards and I'm not sure what I'd do. Do you go with him and let him develope or, if you get the chance, do you trade up for Andrew Luck, or take a Scam Newton?

If you have a shot at a big time QB you never pass on him and I do not care if Skelton looks like John Elway for the last two games.
 

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If you have a shot at a big time QB you never pass on him and I do not care if Skelton looks like John Elway for the last two games.

Depends on how the FO views this draft class and Skelton. You don't draft a QB based on Mel Kiper's opinions
 

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I wouldn't pass on Luck, but I'd think awfully hard about an elite pass rusher or OT versus Newton if that is the choice.
 
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If you have a shot at a big time QB you never pass on him and I do not care if Skelton looks like John Elway for the last two games.
Don't agree at all. If you have QBOF, you don't take another. The question is do we have QBOF?
 

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Is Skelton the QB of the future? I haven't seen it yet.

Is Newton going to be a better pro QB? I haven't seen that yet either.

Normally I wouldn't question taking a top QB this draft, regardless of Skelton, but there is some pretty special players that might be available when we pick that make me question drafting another QB. CB's Peterson and Amukamara look really good. Bowers, Quinnn and Miller could possibly bring the pass rush that our D lacks. We really need players at offensive tackle. If these 5 players are gone, then the choice is easy for me. But if they aren't, then things get sticky. I still believe in trading up for Andrew Luck, and maybe Skelton has potential trade value. I haven't seen enough of Newton to be overly exited about him, so that makes it tougher.

So to answer the question, right now, I still trade up for Luck.
 

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Don't agree at all. If you have QBOF, you don't take another. The question is do we have QBOF?

I say you do if you have a "might be QBOF." You can always trade him away if your guy pans out. However, I don't think you need to do it if your team is trash elsewhere, and the top of the draft has great players in those areas, and you'd be reaching to grab this second QBOF guy.
 

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at the point we lost luck i think we stick with skelton and bring in the best veteran we can find, beef up the D and fire butch davis

I agree, unless the best player on the board when we draft is a QB, which I don't think will be the case.

I wish we would have seen more of Skelton this season. We just don't know how he'll turn out. I like the kid, but he's still a crapshoot.
 

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I agree, unless the best player on the board when we draft is a QB, which I don't think will be the case.

I wish we would have seen more of Skelton this season. We just don't know how he'll turn out. I like the kid, but he's still a crapshoot.

Its slightly more than we know about the rookies coming out. No matter how good the prospect you can never be certain that they have what it takes physically or mentally to play in the NFL. However most people fall into the hype around draft time and listen to the "experts" talk about the next can't miss prospect.

Still one of my all-time favorite gaffs from those guys was when they compared the 1999 QB class to the 1983 QB class. The 1983 QB class had 3 NFL HOFers in it (Elway, Kelly, and Marino) and 2 guys that had decents careers (Eason and Blackledge). The 1999 Draft class had 1 good Qb out of it (McNabb), 1 had a decent run (Culpepper) and the other 3 were out of the league in 5 years (Couch, Akili Smith, and McNown). Other than the number of QBs taken in round 1, they are obviously not comparable. Yet people bought the hype beforehand - hook, line, and sinker.
 

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Its slightly more than we know about the rookies coming out. No matter how good the prospect you can never be certain that they have what it takes physically or mentally to play in the NFL. However most people fall into the hype around draft time and listen to the "experts" talk about the next can't miss prospect.

Still one of my all-time favorite gaffs from those guys was when they compared the 1999 QB class to the 1983 QB class. The 1983 QB class had 3 NFL HOFers in it (Elway, Kelly, and Marino) and 2 guys that had decents careers (Eason and Blackledge). The 1999 Draft class had 1 good Qb out of it (McNabb), 1 had a decent run (Culpepper) and the other 3 were out of the league in 5 years (Couch, Akili Smith, and McNown). Other than the number of QBs taken in round 1, they are obviously not comparable. Yet people bought the hype beforehand - hook, line, and sinker.

Yeah, you just never know. That's why I am more in favor of bringing in a proven veteran than drafting a QB with the first pick. God knows we have plenty of holes to fill this year. No use in reaching for a QB in the first or second round if we can get a linebacker or pass rusher.
 

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