Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Episode VII)

[Stout]

Not many settings that haven't been used. We've had ice(Hoth), swamp(Degobah), foresty(Yavin 4 and Endor), cloud(Bespin), desert(Tatooine), water world(Kamino), volcanic(Mufasar). Hard not to duplicate.

Yes, settings have been used, but come on. Using the desert world as the place where the lonely kid is growing up AGAIN is undeniably a wash-rinse-repeat of Star Wars. A quasi-reboot, even. They could have used a different setting--even one already used before--in a different way. Easily.

I didn't think it was safe either, I thought it was an awesome movie. Just my opinion.

A bunch of my family hadn't seen it, as was revaled during our Christmas Eve party, and everyone got all excited to see it so a bunch of us caught a late Christmas Eve showing! (my 4th time seeing it lol Nerd! I cant help it, it's just a fun movie. Rey is so freakin awesome.) Honestly, everyone (even my jerk brother in law who hates everything) loved it! lol It was so fun. Another great life-memory Star Wars has provided me with. Seeing The Force Awakens together as a family on Christmas eve! Everyone was in their Christmas sweaters, santa hats, smuggled in lots of treats. lol It was a blast. Thank you Star Wars!

It's just a matter of taste. I get some of the points that have been brought up, and there are some pretty good points but they just dont bother me. I agree that Kylo wasn't as badass as I initially thought he was going to be, after he took off the mask he kindof turned into a wimp, but it still didn't ruin the movie for me or make me hate it. Maybe this is the trigger to him being the baddest baddie in SW hitory going forward. No mercy, for anyone? It could be that just as easily as it could be something dumb so I hope you dont get preemptively annoyed. The not knowing is the great part that we didn't get to have during the prequels. Everyone knew where that ship was sailing so you just kinda had to enjoy the scenery. Atleast here we are left with wonder. I mean even the guys who didn't like it as much as other are freaking stoked for 2017 I bet! We all will be!

I will say that I dont quite get why some of us feel the need to hammer points in again and again and again and again and argue about it and get all personal,, To what end? To be right? To have the last word? Is it really that important? Then again it's a message board, that's what its for I guess? Does anyone really know? Why cant I stop asking questions? I just dont get that mentality of having to be right or to "win the argument." So why cant we just agree to disagree instead of getting all pissed off at eachother? lol

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!
No shutups here. No voices shall be stifled in the EPIC ASFN Star Wars thread of 2015!!! (most likely carrying well into 2017)

I love all you guys. Even Stout! Happy all the holidays lol.

Even me?

That's awesome that your family had that experience. A while ago I had started a movie tradition with my immediate family. We used to (and still do) do Christmas Eve big with the extended family, then we'd do Christmas Day with my Grandmother. When she had to go into a home, we'd bring Christmas to her. When she died, we'd just hang out at the house. Well, I started taking my parents out to the movies on Christmas Day, because they never really have the money to go, and they'd get to see movies they normally wouldn't. We'd have a blast. Can't do it anymore because of my father's health, but it was fun while it lasted.

As to why people feel the need to argue, it's kind of like what it is on the Cards board. A lot of people put out hugely positive opinions in such a way that they think it would be offensive for anyone to disagree with them, to state a negative opinion. As in, how DARE you not just love it unconditionally too? I'm not pointing a finger at you here, Bert, not at all. It's just the kind of tone this message board has taken, to a degree. It's the happy happy, joy joy zone, and if anyone ain't singing that song, they're not in line with the program lol

 

[NJCardFan]

A bunch of my family hadn't seen it, as was revaled during our Christmas Eve party, and everyone got all excited to see it so a bunch of us caught a late Christmas Eve showing! (my 4th time seeing it lol Nerd! I cant help it, it's just a fun movie. Rey is so freakin awesome.) Honestly, everyone (even my jerk brother in law who hates everything) loved it! lol It was so fun. Another great life-memory Star Wars has provided me with. Seeing The Force Awakens together as a family on Christmas eve! Everyone was in their Christmas sweaters, santa hats, smuggled in lots of treats. lol It was a blast. Thank you Star Wars!

A bit off topic but I heard of a lot of people going to the movies Christmas Eve and even Christmas Day. During Thanksgiving, people were pissing an moaning about stores being open on Thanksgiving and how people should be with their families instead, however, I've heard no such talk about movie theaters and other places being open on Christmas Day.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Lol... The people telling those with contrary opinions to **** and that they're crazy are the ones who need to relax? Okay. Sorry if having an opinion contrary to yours on a movie ruffles your feathers so much that you insult them, project some stupid idea that they believe their opinion is the only one that matters and wish they'd shut up. Remember, it's just a movie so R-E-L-A-X with all that garbage.

Quote me where I said for anyone with contrary opinions need to ****.

You are like the supreme leader of twisting things around. Move along now spin master.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Quote me where I said for anyone with contrary opinions need to ****.

Donald wrote a post, where at the end he told people with contrary opinions to ****. You quoted just that portion of his post and agreed with him. Ain't hard to put 2 and 2 together there... especially since you've already called me crazy simply for saying I thought something in the movie was really predictable. I mean, seriously... you just keep attacking people for simply having a different opinion then you do.

You are like the supreme leader of twisting things around. Move along now spin master.

lol... I rest my case. Seriously... please take your own advice and R-E-L-A-X with this trash.

 

[Bert]

Yes, settings have been used, but come on. Using the desert world as the place where the lonely kid is growing up AGAIN is undeniably a wash-rinse-repeat of Star Wars. A quasi-reboot, even. They could have used a different setting--even one already used before--in a different way. Easily.



Even me?

That's awesome that your family had that experience. A while ago I had started a movie tradition with my immediate family. We used to (and still do) do Christmas Eve big with the extended family, then we'd do Christmas Day with my Grandmother. When she had to go into a home, we'd bring Christmas to her. When she died, we'd just hang out at the house. Well, I started taking my parents out to the movies on Christmas Day, because they never really have the money to go, and they'd get to see movies they normally wouldn't. We'd have a blast. Can't do it anymore because of my father's health, but it was fun while it lasted.

As to why people feel the need to argue, it's kind of like what it is on the Cards board. A lot of people put out hugely positive opinions in such a way that they think it would be offensive for anyone to disagree with them, to state a negative opinion. As in, how DARE you not just love it unconditionally too? I'm not pointing a finger at you here, Bert, not at all. It's just the kind of tone this message board has taken, to a degree. It's the happy happy, joy joy zone, and if anyone ain't singing that song, they're not in line with the program lol

Well said, totally agree with all this actually. I must have been overcome by the dang Christmas spirit the other night and it led to a little sanctimony lol. #1postcanchangetheworld

 

[82CardsGrad]

A bit off topic but I heard of a lot of people going to the movies Christmas Eve and even Christmas Day. During Thanksgiving, people were pissing an moaning about stores being open on Thanksgiving and how people should be with their families instead, however, I've heard no such talk about movie theaters and other places being open on Christmas Day.

There is a massive % of our population who don't recognize and/or celebrate Christmas. At most, they might use Christmas as a reason to come together as family and/or friends. Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, etc...

 

[Stout]

There is a massive % of our population who don't recognize and/or celebrate Christmas. At most, they might use Christmas as a reason to come together as family and/or friends. Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, etc...

Yeah, I was surprised way back in the day that movie theaters would be open, until someone pointed that out to me. Thanksgiving is an American tradition, not one that has to be rooted in religion (although it can be). Christmas, while it has become mainstream, is still, at its root, a religious holiday. Many people don't celebrate it, and going to the movies is actually rather big over Christmas.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Donald wrote a post, where at the end he told people with contrary opinions to ****. You quoted just that portion of his post and agreed with him. Ain't hard to put 2 and 2 together there... especially since you've already called me crazy simply for saying I thought something in the movie was really predictable. I mean, seriously... you just keep attacking people for simply having a different opinion then you do.

Again there you go twisting words. He said everyone. You're the one doing the attacking, as you call it. List these 'people' I'm attacking. You can't because you're the one doing the attacking. Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is wrong and you see fit to let them know that.

But, you keep being delusional about knowing what was going to happen. It was nothing more than a guess. You can't deal with that and insist in tooting your own horn and making sure everyone knows it.

lol... I rest my case. Seriously... please take your own advice and R-E-L-A-X with this trash.

Are you the pot or kettle?

I know you can't drop it and move on. You have to get the last word just like you have too toot your own horn. Lets see if you can prove me wrong.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Again there you go twisting words. He said everyone. You're the one doing the attacking, as you call it. List these 'people' I'm attacking. You can't because you're the one doing the attacking. Anyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is wrong and you see fit to let them know that.

But, you keep being delusional about knowing what was going to happen. It was nothing more than a guess. You can't deal with that and insist in tooting your own horn and making sure everyone knows it.


Are you the pot or kettle?

I know you can't drop it and move on. You have to get the last word just like you have too toot your own horn. Lets see if you can prove me wrong.

last word's all yours Bill.

 

[Bert]

last word's all yours Bill.

I wanted the last word!!!


So if you guys had to guess, what would you like to see during the next one?

I want to see some awesome Jedi training between Rey and Luke. Maybe cut to some awesome darkside training with Kylo and Snoke? (Snoke said he needed to complete his training) That might be cool and something we haven't really seen before in the franchise. How do darksiders train? Torturing kitties?

I'm not sure what Fin is going to be up to in the next one. Seems like him and Rey might be doing separate things for a bit the way FA ended. Most likely he will be a part of the resistance army now. Maybe we will see him and Po get into some shenanigans...

What's the next move for the First Order? For that matter, what is the next move for the Resistance?

Assuming BILLIONS were killed by star killer base, it will be interesting to see if there is more or less support for the resistance among the rest of the galaxy. People have seen what the first order can do, but they've also seen what the resistance can do.

This is what I mean by its fun again. In the prequels we knew exactly what was gonna happen. Here I have no idea!

A bit off topic but I heard of a lot of people going to the movies Christmas Eve and even Christmas Day. During Thanksgiving, people were pissing an moaning about stores being open on Thanksgiving and how people should be with their families instead, however, I've heard no such talk about movie theaters and other places being open on Christmas Day.

I hear ya, I dont think we should get into this tho that topic can spiral pretty easily. That's a P&R topic

 

[JS22]

Yep. Is anybody else curious where his 3 treatments of the next 3 movies were going? He pretty much called this movie a fan movie and not where he would have gone. My guess is it would have been heavier on the family melodrama stuff. I hope they leak or come out as some alternative universe type thing someday. Who knows maybe they steal pieces of it for future films.

By the way..if you were not already pumped for the next installment.....JJ Abrams has read the next script and wishes he had signed on to direct it.

http://www.cnet.com/news/j-j-abrams-next-star-wars-script-is-so-good-i-wish-i-were-directing/

That's disappointing. I was hoping there'd be some actual character development in the next one.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I wanted the last word!!!


So if you guys had to guess, what would you like to see during the next one?

I want to see some awesome Jedi training between Rey and Luke. Maybe cut to some awesome darkside training with Kylo and Snoke? (Snoke said he needed to complete his training) That might be cool and something we haven't really seen before in the franchise. How do darksiders train? Torturing kitties?

I'm not sure what Fin is going to be up to in the next one. Seems like him and Rey might be doing separate things for a bit the way FA ended. Most likely he will be a part of the resistance army now. Maybe we will see him and Po get into some shenanigans...

What's the next move for the First Order? For that matter, what is the next move for the Resistance?

Assuming BILLIONS were killed by star killer base, it will be interesting to see if there is more or less support for the resistance among the rest of the galaxy. People have seen what the first order can do, but they've also seen what the resistance can do.

This is what I mean by its fun again. In the prequels we knew exactly what was gonna happen. Here I have no idea!

I still want to figure out... why is there a resistance? Shouldn't the Republic have some kind of army that would have been battling the First Order? There's that scene with the Hux where he's shouting about the Republic "secretly" working with the Resistance... but why? Was this more of a Cold War if Russia just decided "ah, the hell with it... just nuke America already!" The whole politics of the movie was a little confusing to me.

But I am interested to see where the hell we go from here, especially a training someone in the darkside of the force. That said, for a movie that was supposed to pass the torch to the younger generation, did anyone else find it kind weird and incredibly ironic that the last scene of the movie was someone LITERALLY passing a torch back to the older generation?

 

[Bert]

I still want to figure out... why is there a resistance? Shouldn't the Republic have some kind of army that would have been battling the First Order? There's that scene with the Hux where he's shouting about the Republic "secretly" working with the Resistance... but why? Was this more of a Cold War if Russia just decided "ah, the hell with it... just nuke America already!" The whole politics of the movie was a little confusing to me.



But I am interested to see where the hell we go from here, especially a training someone in the darkside of the force. That said, for a movie that was supposed to pass the torch to the younger generation, did anyone else find it kind weird and incredibly ironic that the last scene of the movie was someone LITERALLY passing a torch back to the older generation?

Lol cheese. Stop converting your back pain into star wars angst!!! I'm trying to move the convo forward here and u keep going back to stuff u didn't like. Ur an amazing writer so if u were writing the next one where would u go with it? That's what I'm after here.

PS Feel better soon bro.

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[D-Dogg]

I said everyone, not people with contrary opinions. Everyone needs to relax. Like it or don't, nobody is dying over these arguments. There are good points on both sides, but a lot of jackassery hides it. It's like P&R is vacationing in this thread.

 

[Chaz]

I still want to figure out... why is there a resistance? Shouldn't the Republic have some kind of army that would have been battling the First Order? There's that scene with the Hux where he's shouting about the Republic "secretly" working with the Resistance... but why? Was this more of a Cold War if Russia just decided "ah, the hell with it... just nuke America already!" The whole politics of the movie was a little confusing to me.



But I am interested to see where the hell we go from here, especially a training someone in the darkside of the force. That said, for a movie that was supposed to pass the torch to the younger generation, did anyone else find it kind weird and incredibly ironic that the last scene of the movie was someone LITERALLY passing a torch back to the older generation?

After taking over after Endor and Jakku the New Republic de-militarized. They were trying to go back to the Old Republic and let the systems organize their own defense with assistance from the Republic fleet so they wouldn't be seen as the new empire with a standing army. I think the First Order was operating out on the fringes of the galaxy and it was left to the resistance to fight them while the Republic fleet was focused on defense of the systems that made up the new senate.
Not that anyone would know this from the movie.

Yea, basically General Hux decided on a nuclear strike against the Republic. I don't think the Republic was aware of the super weapon prior to the attack.

 

[Phrazbit]

After taking over after Endor and Jakku the New Republic de-militarized. They were trying to go back to the Old Republic and let the systems organize their own defense with assistance from the Republic fleet so they wouldn't be seen as the new empire with a standing army. I think the First Order was operating out on the fringes of the galaxy and it was left to the resistance to fight them while the Republic fleet was focused on defense of the systems that made up the new senate.
Not that anyone would know this from the movie.

Yea, basically General Hux decided on a nuclear strike against the Republic. I don't think the Republic was aware of the super weapon prior to the attack.

And I don't mind that we were not fed all that information. Among the many things that bogged down the prequel trilogy was heavy amounts of exposition and Senate meetings.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lol cheese. Stop converting your back pain into star wars angst!!! I'm trying to move the convo forward here and u keep going back to stuff u didn't like. Ur an amazing writer so if u were writing the next one where would u go with it? That's what I'm after here.

PS Feel better soon bro.

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Lol... I'm still just trying to figure out the political machinations of the plot!

 

[Cheesebeef]

And I don't mind that we were not fed all that information. Among the many things that bogged down the prequel trilogy was heavy amounts of exposition and Senate meetings.

I don't disagree that Lucas bogged the prequels down in politics that he made really uninteresting, but ignoring the political situation all together just left me scratching my head considering where Jedi ended.

 

[Bert]

Lol... I'm still just trying to figure out the political machinations of the plot!

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[FArting]

Saw this yesterday evening. Movie was really good.

The 3D was amazing.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

'Force Awakens' becomes fastest movie to $1 billion

http://www.abc15.com//entertainment/force-awakens-becomes-fastest-movie-to-1-billion

"Star Wars: The Force Awakens" has reached $1 billion at the box office, reaching the milestone with record-setting hyper speed.

The Walt Disney Co. said "The Force Awakens" crossed the billion-dollar mark Sunday, accomplishing the feat in just 12 days. The previous movie to reach $1 billion the fastest was Universal's "Jurassic World," which did it in 13 days in June. "Jurassic World" also had the benefit of record grosses in China. "The Force Awakens" doesn't open in the world's second-largest movie market until Jan. 9.

J.J. Abrams' installment of "Star Wars" also posted the biggest Christmas Day box office in history with $49.3 million and the best second-weekend earnings with $153.5 million.

"The Force Awakens" has been setting records since its debut Dec. 17. It brought in a galactic $238 million in North America over its opening weekend, besting previous record-setter "Jurassic World," and set international opening-weekend records in Australia, New Zealand and throughout Europe. It scored the biggest worldwide debut with $529 million. It also topped $100 million in IMAX screenings in 10 days, another global record.

"You almost have to rewrite all the record books for this movie," box office analyst Paul Dergarabedian of Rentrak said. "It's absolutely mind-blowing that `Star Wars' could get to a billion dollars in 12 days and it hasn't even opened in China, the second biggest movie market in the world."

 

[conraddobler]

I have no doubt these will make a gazzillion dollars and that most people will love them that's what they are designed for.

Just further cements my view of fading hope for humanity.

Love the new meme of fighting to keep the light out.

Haha, couldn't peg modern life any better if you tried.

 

[Chaplin]

I have no doubt these will make a gazzillion dollars and that most people will love them that's what they are designed for.

Just further cements my view of fading hope for humanity.

Love the new meme of fighting to keep the light out.

Haha, couldn't peg modern life any better if you tried.

People watching Star Wars cements your view of fading hope for humanity? Wow, overreact much?

 

[JS22]

I have no doubt these will make a gazzillion dollars and that most people will love them that's what they are designed for.

Just further cements my view of fading hope for humanity.

Love the new meme of fighting to keep the light out.

Haha, couldn't peg modern life any better if you tried.

Wait, what?

 

[Covert Rain]

One of my buddies who is a huge Trek fan finally went to see this over the weekend. He has only liked one Star Wars movie (ESB). That's it. He hated all the rest. Now he likes two. He said he might have to get "more into" Star Wars now and "maybe I should go see it again".

LOL. I told him using trek terms..."resistance is futile".

I might see it one last time. My older brother wants to see it again...so while I am off this week I might go again. I am tempted to see it in IMAX 3D again...that was the best way to see it IMO.

By the way, for those that don't know....Disney/Marvel congratulated Jurassic on breaking the record and now Universal has reciprocated.

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Now Universal returns the favor:

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