Sunderland AFC

Chaz

observationist
Joined
Mar 11, 2003
Posts
11,327
Reaction score
7
Location
Wandering the Universe
I thought they did a pretty good job in the first half but the second half was very meh.

They had better pull it together for next week.
 

Chaz

observationist
Joined
Mar 11, 2003
Posts
11,327
Reaction score
7
Location
Wandering the Universe
Well, as Big Sam said, you got a gift and took advantage of it. I think the ref must have married into Big Sam's family just before the game, myself.


That foul was ridiculous.
Blame your player not the ref.

Edit: I am not saying I personally would have given a red there. I am just saying that if the roles were reversed, and Catts for example had committed that foul, I would blame the player for putting the team in that position.
It isn't like Sunderland hasn't been on the receiving end of calls like that in the recent past.
 
Last edited:

US_Mackem

Newbie
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Posts
20
Reaction score
0
Location
Chandler, AZ
That foul was ridiculous.
Blame your player not the ref.

Edit: I am not saying I personally would have given a red there. I am just saying that if the roles were reversed, and Catts for example had committed that foul, I would blame the player for putting the team in that position.
It isn't like Sunderland hasn't been on the receiving end of calls like that in the recent past.

Agree Chaz, definite foul, and therefore, definite penalty. As for the red, only the ref can say why he sent the player off. Deliberate foul? Clear goal scoring opportunity? They can argue all they like, it was a foul, and the ref saw fit to issue a red. Simple as.
 

Cardsfanstl

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Jan 22, 2009
Posts
3,239
Reaction score
786
Location
St. Louis
Agree Chaz, definite foul, and therefore, definite penalty. As for the red, only the ref can say why he sent the player off. Deliberate foul? Clear goal scoring opportunity? They can argue all they like, it was a foul, and the ref saw fit to issue a red. Simple as.

I agree with the foul and the penalty awarded however I do not think it warranted a red card. Yellow yes.
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,148
Reaction score
24,638
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
That foul was ridiculous.
Blame your player not the ref.

Edit: I am not saying I personally would have given a red there. I am just saying that if the roles were reversed, and Catts for example had committed that foul, I would blame the player for putting the team in that position.
It isn't like Sunderland hasn't been on the receiving end of calls like that in the recent past.

Won't argue that it was incredibly stupid and unnecessary on Captain Colo's part--not very captainlike of him. Definitely a foul and a penalty, but nobody besides Sunderland players and fans are saying it should have been a red.

Agree Chaz, definite foul, and therefore, definite penalty. As for the red, only the ref can say why he sent the player off. Deliberate foul? Clear goal scoring opportunity? They can argue all they like, it was a foul, and the ref saw fit to issue a red. Simple as.

As I said, only you guys and Mackem players are expressing any certainty that it's a red. Only in fantasyland would Fletcher have gotten to the ball first.

I agree with the foul and the penalty awarded however I do not think it warranted a red card. Yellow yes.

Right.

Bottom line is that Colo got stupid on a play that meant nothing. It's an easy pickup for Elliot if he simply stands there and does nothing. It's a shame, since Sunderland had absolutely nothing in this game.

Strangely enough, no one's commented as to why Cattermole escaped booking with his typical thug-like tackling. Our thug-like tackler Tiote got his usual stupid yellow, as deserved. Cattermole should have been booked, if not sent off himself.
 

English on tour

Eng-gur-land Eng-gur-land
Joined
Sep 4, 2004
Posts
4,263
Reaction score
49
Location
Whitley Bay, England
What a day. SIX in a row!!!!

Stone wall pen, the sending off was inevitable as soon as he gave it.

Saw some moaning about Cattermole handball.... See Ginger Judas earlier on...!!

Newcastle out played us for 30 odd minutes and the until Defoe came on we looked dead and devoid of ideas. Not saying Defoe did that well but it changed our shape and will looked better.

Mags could have been a couple up by that point but for all there possession lacked any bite. I also think BSA made sure we weren't caught out like Norwich last week and kept our back four very deep for that reason.

Second half just picked them off. Fan-bloody-tactic.

Still can't really speak today and drank enough for small country.

I don't like seeing a player injured and hope Colback isn't out for long, but the pelters he got walking off around the South West corner was a thing of beauty. Hilarious.
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,148
Reaction score
24,638
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
What a day. SIX in a row!!!!

Stone wall pen, the sending off was inevitable as soon as he gave it.

Saw some moaning about Cattermole handball.... See Ginger Judas earlier on...!!

Newcastle out played us for 30 odd minutes and the until Defoe came on we looked dead and devoid of ideas. Not saying Defoe did that well but it changed our shape and will looked better.

Mags could have been a couple up by that point but for all there possession lacked any bite. I also think BSA made sure we weren't caught out like Norwich last week and kept our back four very deep for that reason.

Second half just picked them off. Fan-bloody-tactic.

Still can't really speak today and drank enough for small country.

I don't like seeing a player injured and hope Colback isn't out for long, but the pelters he got walking off around the South West corner was a thing of beauty. Hilarious.

I just about fired off at you, but had to double check to make sure pelters didn't mean something different in English English...and it does. I thought you were applauding people throwing things at him, which would be complete douchebag 'I never want to banter with you again' land. Yes, it's sad, unsportsmanlike and, quite frankly, Oakland Raiders fan style to mock an injured player, so you still didn't cover yourself in glory, but a lot less bad :)

How that was a freaking THROW IN after that foul and not at least a yellow is still beyond me. I chalk it up to throwing a young ref who wasn't ready in the deep end. He choked at a few crucial moments, that's all. Granted, due to Colo's moment of madness, the 1-0 lead was fair and square, but all things being fair, I felt supremely confident in getting a result even after that. Celebrate the win, by all means, but fear the form you're in.
 

English on tour

Eng-gur-land Eng-gur-land
Joined
Sep 4, 2004
Posts
4,263
Reaction score
49
Location
Whitley Bay, England
I just about fired off at you, but had to double check to make sure pelters didn't mean something different in English English...and it does. I thought you were applauding people throwing things at him, which would be complete douchebag 'I never want to banter with you again' land. Yes, it's sad, unsportsmanlike and, quite frankly, Oakland Raiders fan style to mock an injured player, so you still didn't cover yourself in glory, but a lot less bad :)

How that was a freaking THROW IN after that foul and not at least a yellow is still beyond me. I chalk it up to throwing a young ref who wasn't ready in the deep end. He choked at a few crucial moments, that's all. Granted, due to Colo's moment of madness, the 1-0 lead was fair and square, but all things being fair, I felt supremely confident in getting a result even after that. Celebrate the win, by all means, but fear the form you're in.

:lol: Ah you have pelting and pelters mixed up my American brother.

Pelting = hoying, chucking or lobbing ;)

Pelters = dogs abuse, stick or slating :p

I never want to see a player hurt or worse still anything like the halfwits who throw stuff.

It was a little radierslike the stick that he got, but from a sunderland point of view it was pretty funny.

Still cant believe we went in 1 up at half time!
 
Last edited:

US_Mackem

Newbie
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Posts
20
Reaction score
0
Location
Chandler, AZ
Won't argue that it was incredibly stupid and unnecessary on Captain Colo's part--not very captainlike of him. Definitely a foul and a penalty, but nobody besides Sunderland players and fans are saying it should have been a red.



As I said, only you guys and Mackem players are expressing any certainty that it's a red. Only in fantasyland would Fletcher have gotten to the ball first.



Right.

Bottom line is that Colo got stupid on a play that meant nothing. It's an easy pickup for Elliot if he simply stands there and does nothing. It's a shame, since Sunderland had absolutely nothing in this game.

Strangely enough, no one's commented as to why Cattermole escaped booking with his typical thug-like tackling. Our thug-like tackler Tiote got his usual stupid yellow, as deserved. Cattermole should have been booked, if not sent off himself.

No mate, I said "the ref saw fit to issue a red", I didn't express certainty that it was a red. I agree with what's been said by BSA, it's a double whammy. Only the ref knows why he issued a red. Did he see something in the deliberate nature of the barge? I agree, it looked like Elliot was getting the ball, but we don't know that the ref issued it for 'denial of a clear goal scoring opportunity'.
 

English on tour

Eng-gur-land Eng-gur-land
Joined
Sep 4, 2004
Posts
4,263
Reaction score
49
Location
Whitley Bay, England
Looks like the Red has been withdrawn, which makes it even funnier really.

Always a harsh red I guess, but at the time sat about 30 feet away with no reply (albeit with red and white tinted specs on) I thought it was a sending off.

I can help the ref that as soon as it happened there was 46000 chanting OFF OFF OFF! About time we got some luck this seaosn though. :)
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,148
Reaction score
24,638
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
Looks like the Red has been withdrawn, which makes it even funnier really.

Always a harsh red I guess, but at the time sat about 30 feet away with no reply (albeit with red and white tinted specs on) I thought it was a sending off.

I can help the ref that as soon as it happened there was 46000 chanting OFF OFF OFF! About time we got some luck this seaosn though. :)

Ha! :)

Yeah, this was a ref who didn't have the sack to work a big game, and it showed. Clear non-red, not to mention a non-penalty right before the penalty, and not even a FOUL on Cattermole's ridiculous, dangerous tackle on Colback. Pathetic ref display that changed the course of the game numerous times.

That said, I wish Mitrovic had buried that shot. Barring another moment of madness, Sunderland wouldn't have sniffed another goal.
 

dreamcastrocks

Chopped Liver Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2005
Posts
46,291
Reaction score
11,926
Ha! :)

Yeah, this was a ref who didn't have the sack to work a big game, and it showed. Clear non-red, not to mention a non-penalty right before the penalty, and not even a FOUL on Cattermole's ridiculous, dangerous tackle on Colback. Pathetic ref display that changed the course of the game numerous times.

That said, I wish Mitrovic had buried that shot. Barring another moment of madness, Sunderland wouldn't have sniffed another goal.

Anyone have a link so I can see the red card?
 

English on tour

Eng-gur-land Eng-gur-land
Joined
Sep 4, 2004
Posts
4,263
Reaction score
49
Location
Whitley Bay, England
I was totally convinced it was red! Was there, had a perfect angle to watch it as it was at my end of the pitch. 100% certain.

It's not a red is it!!

Some people at work today saying it wasnt even a penalty either, not having that.

Remember this one Newcastle got a few years ago... Laughable.
http://youtu.be/lnHJB8uz2lE
 
Last edited:

Chaz

observationist
Joined
Mar 11, 2003
Posts
11,327
Reaction score
7
Location
Wandering the Universe
In real time I thought Fletcher had a chance at a touch that Colo took away.

the point of contact:
You must be registered for see images attach
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
40,148
Reaction score
24,638
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
I was totally convinced it was red! Was there, had a perfect angle to watch it as it was at my end of the pitch. 100% certain.

It's not a red is it!!

Some people at work today saying it wasnt even a penalty either, not having that.

Remember this one Newcastle got a few years ago... Laughable.
http://youtu.be/lnHJB8uz2lE

Oh man, I think this was the game I was following on the computer while at a friend's place. I was convinced we were going to lose 1-0 and then scored on a penalty. If anything, that play should have been a yellow for diving!

In real time I thought Fletcher had a chance at a touch that Colo took away.

the point of contact:
You must be registered for see images attach

Everyone knows it wasn't a red by now, Chaz.
 

Latest posts

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
556,391
Posts
5,435,617
Members
6,329
Latest member
cardinals2025
Top