Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[Ronin]

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[Yuma]

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F yeah! This will make a good watch. We know what Nurkic brings already. Let's see the rest of the center brigade! Bring it!

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns seem really high on Oso Ighodaro as a backup 5 but since he only has a push shot, I wonder if NBA defenders will simply leave him alone outside.

Gerald Bourguet writes another great article about individual Suns players.

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[Mainstreet]

Outside shooting is what worries me the most about the Suns drafted rookies, Ighodaro and Dunn.

By Gerald Bourguet at PHNX Suns Podcast:


That push shot is an effective tool, but also a necessary one, since Oso Ighodaro has no range outside of 12-15 feet from the basket. He took a grand total of two 3-pointers over his four years at Marquette and missed them both. At the NBA Draft Combine, out of 72 participants in the spot-up shooting drill, Ighodaro ranked 71st in percentage…with his Suns twin, Ryan Dunn, ranking 69th.

Oso Ighodaro 2024-25 Suns season preview: Playmaking big

On Day 5 of Phoenix Suns 2024-25 Season Previews, rookie Oso Ighodaro can make an impact with his playmaking and switchable defense.

gophnx.com

 

[GatorAZ]

You are right. I haven't heard much about Josh Okogie at all. If there were a trade, it would be nice to get a 2nd round pick out of it.

Why would anyone trade an asset for Okogie? If he’s traded it will involve our future 1st.

 

[Mainstreet]

Why would anyone trade an asset for Okogie? If he’s traded it will involve our future 1st.

I think if the Suns entertain trading their first round pick, it will be a much bigger trade involving a larger salary.

However, I can see another team having interest in Okogie for maybe a second round pick if they suffer and injury and like him.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. The Suns upped his salary for a reason.

 

[95pro]

Why would anyone trade an asset for Okogie? If he’s traded it will involve our future 1st.

Another flaw in making Okogie more tradable theory is giving him a bigger contract.

Why would someone want him and his bigger contract if he’s not performing?

Maybe if a team is looking to dump salary halfway through the season.

 

[Hoop Head]

Another flaw in making Okogie more tradable theory is giving him a bigger contract.

Why would someone want him and his bigger contract if he’s not performing?

Maybe if a team is looking to dump salary halfway through the season.

That and he's not guaranteed beyond this season. So we might be able to get a 2nd rounder or two from him around the deadline.

 

[Yuma]

The Suns seem really high on Oso Ighodaro as a backup 5 but since he only has a push shot, I wonder if NBA defenders will simply leave him alone outside.

Gerald Bourguet writes another great article about individual Suns players.

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You can't leave a guy alone that can pass like he can. That's where he is really deadly. If I was another team, I would want him to use the push shot. No way I want him making easy passes for assists. You have to play up on him. We have a lob threat at center now. Been missing that for awhile now.

 

[Mainstreet]

You can't leave a guy alone that can pass like he can. That's where he is really deadly. If I was another team, I would want him to use the push shot. No way I want him making easy passes for assists. You have to play up on him.

Yeah, but you don't want five on four defense if Oso is left alone outside.

 

[Yuma]

Yeah, but you don't want five on four defense if Oso is left alone outside.

He's not going to be outside. His passing and setting screens are what he will be doing. He'll be rolling off the screens. He's a lob threat, plus he can dribble to set up the pass. He won't be stuck jacking up outside shots.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Outside shooting is what worries me the most about the Suns drafted rookies, Ighodaro and Dunn.

By Gerald Bourguet at PHNX Suns Podcast:


That push shot is an effective tool, but also a necessary one, since Oso Ighodaro has no range outside of 12-15 feet from the basket. He took a grand total of two 3-pointers over his four years at Marquette and missed them both. At the NBA Draft Combine, out of 72 participants in the spot-up shooting drill, Ighodaro ranked 71st in percentage…with his Suns twin, Ryan Dunn, ranking 69th.

Oso Ighodaro 2024-25 Suns season preview: Playmaking big

On Day 5 of Phoenix Suns 2024-25 Season Previews, rookie Oso Ighodaro can make an impact with his playmaking and switchable defense.

gophnx.com

Agreed. 69th and 71st of 72 draftees or something like that. That’s virtually unplayable for any significant stretch in a game.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think if the Suns entertain trading their first round pick, it will be a much bigger trade involving a larger salary.

However, I can see another team having interest in Okogie for maybe a second round pick if they suffer and injury and like him.

It's all in the eye of the beholder. The Suns upped his salary for a reason.

I’d be shocked. He was a free agent that could’ve been had for very little. He only ends up in a trade for salary purposes.

 

[Mainstreet]

Agreed. 69th and 71st of 72 draftees or something like that. That’s virtually unplayable for any significant stretch in a game.

This is what the stats say for sure, however, Oso is playing well right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

I’d be shocked. He was a free agent that could’ve been had for very little. He only ends up in a trade for salary purposes.

Yes, the Suns signed some bloated contracts, but I think they had a reason.

 

[Mainstreet]

Oso blocked that shot.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Another flaw in making Okogie more tradable theory is giving him a bigger contract.

Why would someone want him and his bigger contract if he’s not performing?

Maybe if a team is looking to dump salary halfway through the season.

It’s exactly for that reason. Again, no one is trading for okogie as a strategic add to their team.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm amazed how well Lebron plays at his age and how hard he plays all the time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Halftime:

Lakers 69 - Suns 57

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You can't leave a guy alone that can pass like he can. That's where he is really deadly. If I was another team, I would want him to use the push shot. No way I want him making easy passes for assists. You have to play up on him. We have a lob threat at center now. Been missing that for awhile now.

No you don’t. If the dude is 10 feet out you lay off him and beg him to shoot. By doing so you gum up the middle which allows your other defenders to play up on our shooters thereby taking away all his passing options.

Guys, I’m hopeful that our rookies add something this year, but it’s just that’s, blind, irrational hope. If they can’t shoot they won’t play.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He's not going to be outside. His passing and setting screens are what he will be doing. He'll be rolling off the screens. He's a lob threat, plus he can dribble to set up the pass. He won't be stuck jacking up outside shots.

Eh I’m skeptical on the lob threat commentary. Didn’t see much of that in highlights. And that was against college talent. He’s not a likely or gafford type.

 

[Mainstreet]

Collin Gillespie is 1-1 for 2 points.

 

[Yuma]

Eh I’m skeptical on the lob threat commentary. Didn’t see much of that in highlights. And that was against college talent. He’s not a likely or gafford type.

Watching the game tonight. He's burned the Lakers on both the lob and the passes when he was left open. Just saying.

 

[Mainstreet]

Watching the game tonight. He's burned the Lakers on both the lob and the passes when he was left open. Just saying.

Oso may have to play center without an outside shot, though, but that may very well be his position.

His passing is excellent. He is like another point guard on the court.