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I don't think the timing is all that odd. It's much better to fire him now then to wait until the end of the season when the GM job really ratchets up.
 

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I don't think the timing is all that odd. It's much better to fire him now then to wait until the end of the season when the GM job really ratchets up.

Why let him facilitate this past offseason though? They haven’t started regular season games yet so I don’t know how you can argue they’ve plateau.
 

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I don't think the timing is all that odd. It's much better to fire him now then to wait until the end of the season when the GM job really ratchets up.
This sets us up to have someone else in place during the trade deadline as well as also getting someone in place to get started on scouting for the next off-season.
 

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Why let him facilitate this past offseason though? They haven’t started regular season games yet so I don’t know how you can argue they’ve plateau.
He didn't like the look of the roster (specifically the PG position) and I would guess that McD wasn't making any progress on making anything happen on that front.
 

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He didn't like the look of the roster (specifically the PG position) and I would guess that McD wasn't making any progress on making anything happen on that front.

That's my guess. Still, I think McDonough never should have been allowed to partake in such a crucial offseason. He should have been gone at the end of last season (if not earlier).
 

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He didn't like the look of the roster (specifically the PG position) and I would guess that McD wasn't making any progress on making anything happen on that front.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I’ve wanted him gone going back to last year. It should have happened at the end of last year, however. I don’t see how you can use the “they haven’t progressed” argument when the regular season hasn’t even started.
 

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Why let him facilitate this past offseason though? They haven’t started regular season games yet so I don’t know how you can argue they’ve plateau.

I guess to give him one last chance to put together a competitive roster. Like I said, I think we saw his final straw dropping during this offseason. It would have made more sense to let him go before extending him but we were in good financial shape and that was a big deal for Sarver.
 

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I am with Sarver. But I think I am the only one. He says things are going to look better after the summer. You give him the summer and the draft and all. Then you look at the make up and play of the team in October. If things have really improved, you keep him, if not, you fire him.

Sarver is probably getting feedback from players and front office personnel around the league.

One other thing. This front office has a big decision to make about Dragan Bender in the next few weeks. If they were at odds about what should be done there, it could have been the final straw.
 

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Sarver couldn't, of course, give the real answer . . .

I have complete control of this team and will not tolerate any unproven underlings who question the direction I set for the team.

And now the next two unproven underlings will split the job of stocking the roster.

Things change and things stay the same. :(
 

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Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but there is some logic to that. If it happens, I guess I'm okay with it, but I wonder what the Suns will have to give up. Is this the three-way with MIN for Butler, I suppose?

I am a big Dragic fan, but I don't like that his contract runs for another year. That effectively means the Suns cannot sign a PG free agent next summer. Miami is going to want expiring contracts. I don't see how the Suns can have any kind of cap space. I would make Jackson unavailable in addition to the obvious two (Booker and Ayton), and either Bridges or Warren as well. If I were Jones/ Sarver, I'd try to offer more picks and fewer expiring contracts. I like Dragic, but he is a stop-gap.
 

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Oh don’t get me wrong, I’ve wanted him gone going back to last year. It should have happened at the end of last year, however. I don’t see how you can use the “they haven’t progressed” argument when the regular season hasn’t even started.
Summer is when GM's are supposed to make progress. Sarver obviously looked at the roster and preseason play it decided it was not enough progress. Decisions like this have to made at a point in time. Sarver had obviously thought he would give McD last summer to prove himself. McD did not in Sarver's mind.
 

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I am a big Dragic fan, but I don't like that his contract runs for another year. That effectively means the Suns cannot sign a PG free agent next summer. Miami is going to want expiring contracts. I don't see how the Suns can have any kind of cap space. I would make Jackson unavailable in addition to the obvious two (Booker and Ayton), and either Bridges or Warren as well. If I were Jones/ Sarver, I'd try to offer more picks and fewer expiring contracts. I like Dragic, but he is a stop-gap.

No free agent point guard worth having will sign here, anyway. I am fine bringing Dragic back as a stop gap until Okobo and/or Melton hopefully develop.
 

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Oh don’t get me wrong, I’ve wanted him gone going back to last year. It should have happened at the end of last year, however. I don’t see how you can use the “they haven’t progressed” argument when the regular season hasn’t even started.
Anyone who follows the Suns could look at the unbalanced roster and anticipate where we stand with the season about to begin.
 

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Sarver couldn't, of course, give the real answer . . .

I have complete control of this team and will not tolerate any unproven underlings who question the direction I set for the team.

And now the next two unproven underlings will split the job of stocking the roster.

Things change and things stay the same. :(
Would you rather have kept McD?
 

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Here are some of my notes on the Robert Sarver interview:

1. During the last 5 years or even 6 months the Suns progress was not where it needed to be.
2. It was Sarver's decision alone to fire McDonough.
3. He decided he needed to make a change.
4. Felt the Suns could have been further along.
5. Suns didn't achieve all they could in the past 5 years.
6. McDonough made the final decision on who would be drafted.
7. He feels James Jones adds value to the organization.
8. There is no reason to rush to hire a GM although it should be an attractive position.
9. Turnover is not a good thing.
10. Sarver accepts responsibility. He is not a micro-manager.
11. It was not fair to look at the 2016 draft as an indicator alone.
12. He feels the Suns will be a better team this season but no prediction.
13. Sarver thinks the Suns are at the end of the rebuild.
14. Suns have flexibility next season with cap space and drafts picks.
15. Finding a point guard is at the top of the list.
16. Sarver did not feel the switch was flipped this summer.
17. There are a lot of variables going after big name players.
18. The Suns are in a better position today after hiring McDonough.
 

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