The Continuing Saga of "Barroids"

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Originally posted by az240zz

I think one of the problems is that most of the problems occured in the past 2 or 3 years and if you tested players now they would be clean.

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I really dont think that this problem is just as recent as the past 2 or 3 years. I think this has been going on the past 10 years...if not more....
 

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Originally posted by BOB_Man24
I really dont think that this problem is just as recent as the past 2 or 3 years. I think this has been going on the past 10 years...if not more....

At least back to Babe Ruth! :D

just kidden!
 

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Baseball: Major League stars, indicted trainer deny steroid supply report

SAN FRANCISCO : Major League Baseball stars and a personal trainer indicted as part of an illegal steroid ring denied a report that investigators were told he supplied steroids to six players.

The San Francisco Chronicle named San Francisco star Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield of the New York Yankees, Kansas City's Benito Santiago, Marvin Benard of the Chicago White Sox and retired infielder Randy Velarde as receiving steroids from BALCO Laboratories.

Oakland Raiders linebacker Bill Romanowski was also named in the report, which cited an anonymous government source. He was released Tuesday by the American football club.

Giambi, Santiago, Bernard and Velarde were playing for San Francisco or Oakland, putting them near BALCO, whose two top executives face federal charges, and Bonds' personal trainer Greg Anderson, also indicted.

The report had no confirmation that players ever took the steroids but a lawyer for Anderson, Tony Serra, said Bonds was named on a calendar found at Anderson's home with references to doses of steroids and growth hormones.

"Mr. Anderson never knowingly gave these alleged illegal substances to anyone," Anna Ling, an attorney for Anderson said. "He is innocent and is being persecuted by the federal government.

"He's a victim, much like these athletes, and he never knowingly did anything illegal. If he had known, he would never have been involved."

Bonds, whose record 73 home runs in the 2001 season becomes more questioned with every steroid acusation, replied in a statement from his lawyer, Michael Rains.

"We continue to adamantly deny that Barry was provided, furnished or supplied any illegal substances at any time by Greg Anderson," the statement said. "The credibility of the unnamed source familiar with Anderson should be questioned.

"This latest pronouncement is a complete disregard to the truth, to Barry Bonds' inherent athletic ability and his tremendous accomplishments as a Major League Baseball player for the past 18 years."

After his workout, Bonds shouted to his godfather, retired baseball legend Willie Mays, that he was "the most wanted man in America" and raised a fist in a black power salute similar to those of US athletes John Carlos and Tommie Smith on the medal stand during the 1968 Mexico City Olympics.

Sheffield's attorney, Paula Canny, led his defense.

"Gary Sheffield has never knowingly ingested a steroid," she said. "He has never knowingly applied an anabolic steroid cream to his body. These latest (claims) in no way change our assertion."

Sheffield said, "Speculation doesn't bother me. You know I don't like dealing with controversy. Nobody likes to do that.

"It is what it is. I've been through worse. I'm not even thinking about it. "It doesn't matter how I feel. Everyone knows how I feel. What can I do? I just have to sit here and take it like everybody else."

Yankees first baseman Giambi said only, "I can't control that. I don't have a comment on it."

Bernard declined to comment while Santiago told the Contra Costa Times that "My name has always been cleared."

BALCO president Victor Conte, vice president James Valente, Anderson and athletics coach Remy Korchemny were indicted but pleaded innocent and are free on bond.

"Whenever there is a high-profile case information... misinformation seems to come out of the woodwork," Conte attorney Bob Holley told the San Jose Mercury News. "Once again, the point of view of the defense is this case will not be tried in the media but in the forum of a courtroom."

Dozens of athletes testified before a grand jury and reportedly won immunity for their information.

Dick Pound, an International Olympic Committee official and president of the World Anti-Doping Agency, laughed at the notion of an ignorance defense, saying perhaps "they thought the side-effects they were experiencing were normal."

"You are accountable for whatever goes into your body," Pound told the Times. "It forces athletes to question any supplement given to them, which is exactly what they should do. This is their life, their body, their livelihood. If they aren't responsible for themselves, then who should be?"

Tuesday marked the start of a Major League Baseball random test policy that became mandatory this year after 5 to 7 percent of players tested positive for steroids in anonymous tests last year.

The policy has been ridiculed by Pound as "a complete joke" with players facing a full year's banishment only after a fifth offense. Star pitcher John Smoltz termed the steroid testing plan a "smoke screen."

"(Baseball) can't sugarcoat the issue," Pound said. "The current policy is basically a smoke screen. They can act surprised, even outraged by these allegations, but they should have known."
 

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Andy Van Slyke says Bonds took steroids

Here is the interview with Van Slyke with Rick Ballou on Sporting News Radio.

Van Slyke: Bonds 'unequivocally' took steroids

In an interview with Sporting News Radio's Rick Ballou, former major-league outfielder Andy Van Slyke said that Barry Bonds "unequivocally" took steroids.

Van Slyke, who was a teammate of Bonds' in Pittsburgh, shared his thoughts on the steroid controversy and Bonds' alleged use of performance enhancing drugs.
Following is a transcription from the interview ...

Ballou: How difficult will this season be for Barry Bonds?


Van Slyke: I think it is going to be very difficult. Even before Barry was taking steroids, or allegedly was taking steroids when I played with him, I weighed more than him and yet he was still a tremendous player. He still had good power and he was an MVP.


The physical facts are the physical facts and when you're thirty-six, seven, and eight years old is not when you peak with your home run production. You're supposed to do that when you're twenty-six, seven and twenty-eight years old. Not only that, you're not supposed to smash the home run record or smash your own personal record at that age.

If it's coming, I think it's probably due, just like anything else in Barry Bond's past. If it's bad press, it's usually his responsibility.

Andy Van Slyke believes that Barry Bonds took steroids. What do you think?

Ballou: Are you telling us, in your opinion, that it looks like Barry Bonds has taken steroids?

Van Slyke: Unequivocally he's taken them, without equivocation he's taken them. I can say that with utmost certainty.

Now, I never saw him put it into his body, but look, Barry went to the bank with the robber, he drove the car, he got money in his pocket from the bag that came out of the bank. Come to your own conclusion. Did he spend the money?

You decide. I think he did.

The physical evidence is there. People do not gain thirty-five pounds of muscle in their late thirties without a little bit of help.

Ballou: Have you thought about the fact that some players, some sluggers, look thinner this year in spring training?

Van Slyke: Of course I've thought about it. There's no question. The skewed thing about this steroid issue is you have to remember first of all that six to seven percent of the players got caught.

THG, the new synthetic steroid, was not part of that test because they didn't have any idea where to look for it; they didn't know what they were looking for. Human Growth Hormone was not part of that test. If you were caught the first time, you had a chance to take it a second time. Then, the first time, if you were caught, it was not part of the final results of the test, so the numbers could be astronomical, as far as I'm concerned.

You have to be a complete idiot to test positive but at the same time the players knew there wasn't any penalty phase, even if they were caught.

So, I would really have to believe the number, conservatively speaking, is at least double that. Having said that, that means there has to be at least four players on every team in the major leagues on steroids. That's a lot of players.


Van Slyke on Bonds: "People do not gain thirty-five pounds of muscle in their late thirties without a little bit of help."
Morry Gash/Associated Press


When you look at the physiques of some of these players around the league, you can understand why people are very concerned about the integrity of the game and why Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi, and previously Mark McGwire ... these guys are looked at like, 'Hey, if the evidence is in front of my face, I have to point my finger somewhere and if the numbers say there's two to four players on every team, then your physique tells me that you're the guy.'

The facts are the facts. Seven percent, conservatively speaking, maybe twenty percent have taken steroids at the big league level.

Someone's taking them (steroids). It isn't Bo Hart. It isn't Randy Johnson. Let your eyes see for themselves.

If the evidence points to a certain player, then that's just the way it is. The physical evidence with Barry (Bonds) is right in front of our eyes.

I don't think we need to apologize for the fact if we think a certain player has taken them or not.

The Rick Ballou Show can be heard weekdays from 10 p.m.-2 a.m. ET on Sporting News Radio.
 
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I used to be a huge Pirate fan and I believe I remember some sort of feud between Van Slyke and Bonds/Bonilla.

Besides, he never said he "saw" him take steriods, but he *thinks*.
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
I used to be a huge Pirate fan and I believe I remember some sort of feud between Van Slyke and Bonds/Bonilla.

Besides, he never said he "saw" him take steriods, but he *thinks*.

How many 37 year old guys heads grow 6 hat sizes in 2 years?

I heard Barry wears like a size 8.
 

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The sickest thing is he's probably not going to make it to 50.

There was a pole on ESPN that asked, "Would you take steroids if you could be a star and make $14 mil. a year." Something like 85% said yes.

Do all these geniuses know the kind of permanent damage steroids can do your body?

The thing that makes me the maddest is that a lot of high school kids are using because they're looking for a short cut.

I used to be a Pirates fan too and I've always thought Barry was a first class a**hole. The guy has to be the most self centered person on earth.
 
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Bonds his first 15 years hit one Hr every
15 at bats with a 537 slg% . Since 2001
he hits one every 7 at bats and a slg%
of 807. Give me a break.
 

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Even though his personality sucked - I totally respected him during his days with the pirates.

Ever since he took some verbal cheap shots at the babe's records - I hope he gets an "*" to all of his acheivements.
 

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Barry Bonds and what the league should do!! :)

Let him get to a total of 666 home runs, and then NEVER pitch to him again!! Even if you walk in a run!! :hulk: Barry Bonds and the sign of the Beast!! :D
 

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Should * be next to Bonds' name if this report is true?

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A report obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle and San Jose Mercury News indicates that the owner of Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative told federal investigators he gave steroids to nearly 30 athletes, including Barry Bonds and track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.


According to the newspapers, the document summarizes an Internal Revenue Service investigator's interview of Victor Conte last Sept. 3 during a search of the company, at which time Conte volunteered the names of the athletes.


Conte's lawyers denied the report, which reportedly lists 27 athletes -- among them Bonds, Jones, Montgomery, Kelli White and the Yankees' Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield -- to whom Conte allegedly gave steroids.


The report, however, apparently does not say if any of the athletes used the substances -- THG, testosterone cream or both -- obtained from Conte.


The story on the Chronicle's Web site, quoting sources who requested anonymity, said Conte told federal investigators that Jones and Montgomery received the performance-enhancing substances in exchange for endorsements of his nutritional supplement.


Conte's attorneys question the legality of the interview and the veracity of the IRS agent's claims. His lawyers contend the IRS report is filled with fabrications and that Conte's statements have either been falsified or were coerced, as the IRS interview was conducted under intimidating circumstances and without a tape recorder.


"The coercive nature of that interview as well as the disputed contents of what the agents claim was said in that mysteriously unrecorded statement will be the subject of pretrial motions," defense lawyers Robert Holley and Troy Ellerman said in a prepared statement.


According to the Mercury News, Conte, in the report by IRS agent Jeff Novitzky and co-signed by San Mateo County Narcotics Task Force officer Jon Columbet, is quoted as saying:



Bonds' trainer, Greg Anderson, brought Bonds and several other baseball players to BALCO to obtain drugs at the beginning of the 2003 season. The steroids were the allegedly giving to Bonds in exchange for his endorsement of Conte's legal supplement, ZMA -- a zinc- and magnesium-based, legal nutritional product.



Conte allegedly gave Jones steroids for free in exchange for her endorsement of ZMA. Conte stopped working with Jones in 2001.



Conte gave Montgomery steroids in 2002 just before the sprinter set the world record in the 100-meters, at 9.78 seconds, in Paris.


A lawyer for Conte told the Chronicle that the lab owner denied ever providing information to federal agents about any specific athletes receiving steroids.


Conte said in an e-mail message to The Associated Press that he couldn't comment. Jones' publicist, Lewis Kay, could not be reached for comment.


Jones' attorney, Joseph Burton, issued a statement saying the Chronicle's story was wrong.


"Victor Conte is either lying or the statement was involuntarily coerced. This is a character assassination of the worst kind," Burton said.


"Marion has never had an endorsement deal of any kind with Victor Conte or any of his businesses, and most specifically she has never received any illegal substances from Conte in exchange for her endorsement of his products."


Jones and Montgomery, both of whom testified last fall before a federal grand jury that indicted Conte and three other men, repeatedly have denied steroid use. All four indicted men have pleaded innocent.


Bonds, Giambi and Sheffield -- all of whom testified before the grand jury -- have denied using steroids. No athlete has been charged in the case.


Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 

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there should be a * for every home run he hit.
 

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Sheffield talks about his ex-friend Barry Bonds

Got this from CNNSI.com. Just proves what a jerk Bonds is.

By Tom Verducci

Gary Sheffield was testifying before a federal grand jury in San Francisco in 2003 when a prosecutor held up the testoterone-based steroid known as "the cream," supplied by the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative.

"Do you know what this is?" Sheffield was asked.

"Yeah, I do," Sheffield said.

"What did they tell you it was for?"

"My wounds," said Sheffield, who then rolled up his right pants leg to show a surgical scar on the outside of his knee. "It was like a cortisone to heal these wounds. I rubbed it on every night and it helped me."

Sheffield says he was not told that the cream, which he used before and during the 2002 season when he played for the Atlanta Braves, was an illegal steroid. "It was like you could go to a store and find something like that. That's what was in my thoughts," he says. "I put it on my legs and thought nothing of it. I kept it in my locker. The trainer saw my cream."

Sheffield says it shocked him when news broke that "the cream" and "the clear," another balm supplied by BALCO, were designer steroids. "That's why I was mad," he says. "I want everybody to be on an even playing field."

Sheffield was introduced to BALCO by someone he now describes as a former friend: Barry Bonds. Sheffield says he has no knowledge of what, if any, enhancers Bonds may have used, but he did provide SI with a harsh firsthand look at the inner circle of Bonds's trainers. (Bonds, through a spokesperson, declined to address Sheffield's comments, saying only, "I wish nothing but the best for Gary. I want him to win the MVP. He deserves it.")

Sheffield says he and Bonds enjoyed a casual friendship when the Giants leftfielder invited Sheffield to live and train with him in San Francisco for a few weeks before the 2002 season. "He said, 'I got guys here, they can get your urine and blood and prescribe a vitamin specifically for your blood type and what your body needs,' " Sheffield says. "And that's what I did."

Bonds introduced Sheffield to BALCO president Victor Conte as well as to members of Bonds' support team, which included chiropractors, a track coach, a stretching coach and a strength coach, Greg Anderson. He and Conte were two of four men indicted Feb. 12 on charges of conspiring to distribute performance-enhancing drugs. Sheffield says he did not deal directly with anyone from BALCO after his initial meeting with Conte, but that the company gave vitamins to Anderson, and Anderson gave them to Sheffield. (Through his lawyer, Anderson declined to comment on providing Sheffield with any BALCO products.)

"The only thing Greg Anderson does is what Barry tells him to do," Sheffield says. "Barry ran everything. If I'm training and if he sees Greg making me do one curl too many, it's an argument: 'I told you, don't have him do no more than he needs!' So I knew Greg was a puppet. All these guys around [Bonds] were puppets.

"They used to confide in me about how they hated it. I told them, 'You knew what you were getting into. You accept his money. You accept the status when you're around him. But you don't want to deal with the backlash of what comes out of his mouth, and you want to complain to me.'"

Soon after Sheffield arrived in San Francisco, the friendship between him and Bonds began to sour. Bonds insisted that Sheffield stay at his house and not rent a car. He insisted that Sheffield not pay for anything, though Sheffield did bring his personal chef. "[It was], 'It's my way or no way,' " Sheffield says. "I'm not a child. I make $11 million. I can buy what I want."

To thank Bonds for inviting him into his home, Sheffield arranged for the two of them to see a boxing match in Miami on Feb. 2, 2002. "I was going to pay for the plane, the flight, pay for the limo service, the hotel," Sheffield says. "He gets my mail. He looks in my mail and sees he can get better seats, so he gets better seats. He can get a better flight, so he gets a better flight. He can get a better limo service. And he can get a better hotel. So basically my plan, in trying to do something in return, he wound up doing it. And [that sort of behavior] just escalated."

Another time, Sheffield arranged for a limo and tickets for him and Bonds to see the Sacramento Kings host the Los Angeles Lakers. "He complained the whole drive," Sheffield says. "'Man, I could have drove. We would have gotten there a lot faster.' The whole time. And I'm saying to myself, Never again. Never again."

Sheffield says the breaking point occurred one morning when Bonds departed for their morning workout without him, leaving Sheffield to scramble for transportation to the gym. When Sheffield eventually showed up, he found Bonds laughing at him with someone he later learned was a writer for Men's Journal. "He sold me out to the media," Sheffield says.

Though Sheffield says he was under doctor's orders not to run because of his knee, he did so anyway because Bonds and his trainers wanted him to. "Now all of a sudden my knee was hurting," Sheffield says. "He said something to me [about being late]. I did not respond, because if I did respond at that particular moment, I would have knocked him out. That's how I was feeling. [But] I said [to myself], No, I'm just going to walk away, and when I say walk away I mean walk away."

Sheffield flew home to Florida with his chef. The chef told him, "Gary, I want to confess something. [Bonds] made an offer to hire me: He'll get me a car, give me a place to stay and pay off my student loan."

Shortly after they returned, Sheffield says he and his chef parted ways. Sheffield says about a month later Bonds called him to inquire about why the chef was no longer working for Sheffield but made no mention of a related development: Bonds had hired him.

"That's the kind of person I found out I was dealing with," Sheffield says. "To me, I don't want friends like that. I never will have friends like that."

Soon Sheffield received a call from one of Bonds' team. According to Sheffield, Bonds had initially insisted that Sheffield not pay for anything, but now he was told to settle his tab with BALCO and others. Bonds also told Sheffield that BALCO would no longer supply him with vitamins.

"I called BALCO. 'Do I owe you anything?' " Sheffield says. " 'Well, you have a bill ...' I told my wife, 'You write the check.' That's how I got linked to BALCO."

Sheffield hit .307 in 2002 after training with Bonds, but with 25 home runs and 84 RBIs, it was a down year for him. "I had my worst year ever," he says. "I gave him too much credit. When you listen to another person on an everyday basis drill into you numbers, numbers, numbers, and you've never been that way, it doesn't work. I don't play for numbers. When I played to try to get numbers, I didn't get them."

Adds Sheffield, "I never wished anything bad on [Bonds]. I want him to achieve what he wants to achieve, but what I want more is that his life gets right. That he can have compassion for other people. And that's what I want the most."
 

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What a world these guys live in....Just the other day I got into an argument with Ryanwb on which limo to take to the cardinals game - we at least settled it like men...we took seperate rides.
 

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Not surprised that even Barry's 'friends' hate him. Even most ASU fans hate the best athlete to ever come out of the school.
 

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Not surprised that even Barry's 'friends' hate him. Even most ASU fans hate the best athlete to ever come out of the school.
The best all around athlete has to be Lafayette (fat) Lever. :thumbup:

He would spend six seasons in Denver (1984-90), leaving as the Nuggets' all-time leader in steals (1,167), second in assists (3,566) and sixth in scoring (8,081).

But Lever's most startling number in 46. That is the number of triple-doubles he posted in a Nuggets uniform. Three of those came in the playoffs. Second on the Nuggets all-time list is Dikembe Mutumbo with just 8. All other Nuggets combined (since 1976) only have 21.
 

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Greg Anderson said Barry Bonds took steroids

Not looking good for Barry.

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Barry Bonds' personal trainer says in a secretly recorded conversation that the record-breaking slugger used an undetectable performance-enhancing drug during the 2003 season, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.


In an article published Saturday, the Chronicle reports that Greg Anderson, Bonds' boyhood friend and a defendant in the BALCO steroids conspiracy case, provided Bonds with steroids that could be taken the day of a test and still not be detected.


The Chronicle reports that it received the recording from a source familiar with Anderson who asked not to be indentified, and that two people who know Anderson listened to the tapes and said the voice is his.


The paper does not identify the other voices on the recording or report who made the recording and the circumstances under which it was made.


Anderson's attorney, J. Tony Serra, said Friday that Anderson "categorically denies" providing Bonds with illegal substances. After listening to portions of the recording, Serra said he couldn't identify the voice as Anderson's.


Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, said he views "& this is as simply another below-the-belt bash of Barry Bonds, which as I understand it is supposedly the product of what has to be an illegally recorded telephone conversation supposedly between Greg Anderson and an anonymous criminal."


Asked for comment Friday by the Chronicle about Bonds' alleged use of banned drugs, Rob Manfred, a Major League Baseball executive vice president, said, "& Whether or not he was using an undetectable performance-enhancing substance, I and the commissioner will have no comment."


In the recording, the person said to be Anderson says that not only is the substance provided Bonds undetectable, but that through contacts in the testing labs, he would know when Bonds was going to be tested, a claim that Manfred refuted.


During the 9-minute, 19-second recording, there are background conversations that can't be made out, and some of Anderson's comments are not audible, according to the Chronicle. However, the newspaper reports that many of Anderson's comments make it clear that the subject of the conversation is Bonds.


Bonds has also been a subject of interest to federal investigators probing the BALCO lab in Burlingame, Calif., and international sports-doping, the Chronicle notes. On the recording, Anderson indicates that the drug he was giving Bonds was the same as the drug being used by unnamed Olympians who had passed multiple drug tests.


Anderson, BALCO founder Victor Conte and two other men were indicted in February on steroid conspiracy charges for allegedly distributing drugs that included a supposedly undetectable steroid called "the clear" to stars of baseball, the National Football League and Olympic track and field. They have pleaded not guilty.
 

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Memos: BALCO execs said Bonds used 'roids

Documents: BALCO VP said Bonds used THG

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Court documents released late Friday offered detailed accounts of interviews by federal investigators in which BALCO executives allegedly admitted that Barry Bonds received and used steroids.

According to a memorandum summarizing the interview conducted by the Internal Revenue Service agent who headed the investigation, BALCO vice president James Valente told federal investigators on the day the lab was raided in September 2003 that the Giants slugger received alleged steroid substances, as did Valente's boss, lab founder Victor Conte.

In statements attributed to Valente in the memos, special agent Jeff Novitzky wrote, "Bonds has received 'the clear' and 'the cream' from BALCO on a 'couple of occasions.' According to Valente, Bonds does not like how 'the clear' makes him feel."


The designer steroid THG has been identified by BALCO founder Conte as "the clear," according to government attorneys. A testosterone-based ointment has been called "the cream." The summary of Valente's interview does not indicate whether Bonds stopped taking "the clear" due to his adverse body reaction.


Conte also told investigators that Bonds was a client of BALCO and that he had been given steroids, according to the investigators' memo of his interview. This had been previously reported, although Friday was the first time the document was submitted into the case file.



Bonds, who has not been indicted, has said through his attorney that he has not used steroids.


According to his interview summary, Valente told investigators that BALCO sometimes sent athletes' urine samples for steroid screening. Once, Jason and Jeremy Giambi tested positive for steroids in a test that BALCO arranged, Valente allegedly told the investigators.


Valente also said BALCO sent Bonds' blood to be tested, but the lab put the name of Greg Anderson, Bonds' personal trainer, on the test because Bonds didn't want to be associated with the test, according to the interview summary. Valente didn't tell agents the result of that test, according to the interview summary.


The federal agents also stated in their reports that they seized calendars and other documents detailing the use of steroids by professional baseball players during the search of Anderson's home. "Included among these files with apparent steroid distribution details was a folder for Barry Bonds," Novitzky wrote.


Anderson stopped his interview with investigators, allegedly saying "he didn't think he should be talking anymore because he didn't want to go to jail" after they confronted him with a file that appeared to detail steroid use by Bonds.


Anderson's attorney, Anna Ling, also has cited alleged misconduct by Novitzky in filing the search warrant affidavits, questioning of defendants and other matters related to the case.


Federal prosecutors countered Friday, calling the arguments "meritless," adding that "Anderson's statements are outright falsehoods."


Troy Ellerman, attorney for Valente, told ESPN.com that he is upset that government attorneys released the interview summaries. He labeled as "absolutely false" the notion that Valente fingered Bonds as receiving steroids.


"The federal prosecutors are unadulterated punks and their conduct is going to be 'Exhibit A' to dismiss the case for outrageous government conduct," Ellerman said. "There's a protective order that everyone signs at the outset of the case. We haven't broken our promise. They have."



In a statement to ESPN.com late Friday, Conte denied telling investigators that he gave Bonds steroids.



"I have never given Barry Bonds anabolic steroids at any time. I have never even had a discussion with Bonds about anabolic steroids. Anyone who says anything different is not telling the truth. The memorandum of interview that was released to the media today is filled with information that was completely fabricated by law enforcement officers," Conte told ESPN.com.



The memos were submitted by the U.S. Attorney's office in San Francisco in an attempt by the government to defend against charges by attorneys for four defendants in the case alleging that their clients were subjected to illegal searches and coerced by federal investigators.



The typewritten memos summarizing the interviews cited other athletes who received steroids, including many already mentioned, such as baseball's Gary Sheffield, Benito Santiago and Jason Giambi; NFL players Bill Romanowski, Dana Stubblefield, Barrett Robbins and Johnnie Morton; and track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery.



Conte, Anderson, Valente and track coach Remi Korchemny, are charged with distributing steroids, including the previously undetectable THG, to top athletes. Charges also include possession of human growth hormone, misbranding drugs with intent to defraud and money laundering. They have pleaded not guilty.
 

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Report: Bonds said unknowingly took steroids

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Barry Bonds testified to a grand jury that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring, but said he didn't know they were steroids, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Friday.

Bonds told the federal grand jury last year that Greg Anderson, his personal trainer, told him that the substances he used in 2003 were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by the Chronicle.

The substances Bonds described were similar to ones known as ``the clear'' and ``the cream,'' two steroids from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, the lab at the center of the steroid scandal.

Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, said the leak of grand jury testimony was an attempt to smear his client. Grand jury transcripts are sealed and the Chronicle did not say who showed them the documents.

``My view has always been this case has been the U.S. vs. Bonds, and I think the government has moved in certain ways in a concerted effort to indict my client,'' Rains told the newspaper. ``And I think their failure to indict him has resulted in their attempts to smear him publicly.''

Calls to Rains' office from The Associated Press went unanswered Thursday night.

The Chronicle story is the latest development this week in the more than yearlong BALCO probe. On Thursday, the paper reported Yankees slugger Jason Giambi told the grand jury he injected himself with human growth hormone in 2003 and also used steroids for at least three seasons.

Also, ABC News and ESPN the Magazine released excerpts of interviews with Conte, in which the BALCO founder admits to watching Olympic star Marion Jones inject herself in the leg with human growth hormone. Jones' attorneys denied that she ever used performance-enhancing drugs.

Conte's interview with ABC's ''20/20'' program will air Friday night.

It is uncertain what punishment, if any, Bonds could receive from baseball, which didn't have penalties for steroid use until 2003.

While discipline is spelled out for positive tests and criminal convictions from 2003 on, admission of illegal steroid use is not addressed, possibly giving Selig an opening to punish Bonds. Even so, baseball can't test him more than other players because it's been over a year since the steroid use referred to in the testimony.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig repeatedly has called for year-round random testing and harsher penalties, but management and the players' association have failed to reach an agreement. The contract runs through the 2006 season.

``I've been saying for many months: I instituted a very, very tough program in the minor leagues on steroids in 2001. We need to have that program at the major league level,'' Selig said Thursday in Washington, D.C. ``We're going to leave no stone unturned until we have that policy in place by spring training 2005.''
 

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arthurracoon said:
...nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by the Chronicle.

The substances Bonds described were similar to ones known as ``the clear'' and ``the cream,'' two steroids from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, the lab at the center of the steroid scandal....
Bonds is such a health nut...how is it it didn't know what they are?
 

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Are we really supposed to believe Bonds actually didn't know his trainer was giving him banned substances??
 

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you'd think after growing out of his baseball caps every month or so he'd starting asking questions.

btw...how could Jiambi know that he was getting "the juice" from the same guy that bonds was, but bonds didnt. i mean, someone had to introduce the two, and you'd think it would be bonds.

these pieces arent adding up at all

you have Jiambi - "sure i knew it was steriods, bonds trainer game them to me."
you have Bonds - "i had no idea my trainer was giving me steriods, i thought they were vitamins."

BS....bonds is an ass.
 

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asudevil83 said:
....BS....bonds is an ass.
This steroid thing is really going to blow up when he approaches hank's record.
 

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