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loved it - comic book heros always seem to have a knock against them and that is that you kind of get how it's going to end up - it's hard to build suspense and drama - however I really like how this one was put together - i thought the characters were developed well - there was some good internal struggle as well as struggle with the masses

the pencil scene woke up the entire theater and I loved it ...... the interogation scene was awesome - ledger did an amazing job

i even liked the sub-twist about the accountant discovering the funds, morgan freeman drawing the line, alfred handling the note from dent, the large prisoner throwing the detonator out the window - this movie was an essential blockbuster - very well done
 

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This was pretty shocking to me!

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080720/121658682000.html

Factoring in higher admission prices, "Spider-Man 3" may have sold slightly more tickets than "The Dark Knight."

At 2007's average price of $6.88, "Spider-Man 3" sold 21.96 million tickets over opening weekend. Media By Numbers estimates today's average movie prices at $7.08, which means "The Dark Knight" would have sold 21.94 million tickets.
 

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I was right.... It didn't live up to my expectations. But how could it? I was expecting Braveheart.


It turned out like it should though. A great movie, with a ton of great performances.

Heath should win the Oscar. He deserves it. This was a great, multi-dimensional performance. The hospital stuff, and the interrogation stuff were amazing. His magic trick with the pen was the perfect way to get his point across.

From the start of the movie I loved it. But it wasn't a 10. A high level 7 or maybe an 8 would be my grade.

Braveheart, Die Hard, Seven, Usual Suspects, Crash, and others will still be above this.

I will see it again next Sunday. Then I will go to IMAX.

I loved that the wife and I watched Batman Begins last night then went to the matinee of this the next day. It really allowed us to continue the story.

Thank you Heath. It was a great performance. I just wish we could see you come back and do it again.

To each his own. Braveheart and Crash (especially Crash) are nowhere near as good as The Dark Knight. IMO.

But most of your post is right on. ;)
 

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This was pretty shocking to me!

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080720/121658682000.html

Factoring in higher admission prices, "Spider-Man 3" may have sold slightly more tickets than "The Dark Knight."

At 2007's average price of $6.88, "Spider-Man 3" sold 21.96 million tickets over opening weekend. Media By Numbers estimates today's average movie prices at $7.08, which means "The Dark Knight" would have sold 21.94 million tickets.

IMO they should always base it on tickets sold, not revenue.
 

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To each his own. Braveheart and Crash (especially Crash) are nowhere near as good as The Dark Knight. IMO.

But most of your post is right on. ;)

Really? Braveheart and Crash (seven also) just left me so moved/shocked when they ended. Man.... Braveheart might be the best Man-Movie ever. Great legend/story. Great battles with gruesome violence. A very bitchin love story gone wrong. Many places where all hell brakes loose. The hero dies for his cause (and his woman). And we get some gratuitous nudity. What more could you ask for? lol

We shall see if we can put it up there with those two Best picture winners. Currently, I rate TDK as the Best comic book movie ever. And the Begins/Knight saga as the best thing going right now (Next to the new Bond).

Maybe it's good I am seeing it again. If you think it is better than both of those Oscar winners, I may need to open my heart more.

P.S. That new Bond trailer had my blood boiling for that release as well. Daniel Craig (Bond). Matt Damon (Bourne). Bale (Batman). Downey (IronMan). And now Bale as John Conner. What more could a dude ask for????
 
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Really? Braveheart and Crash (seven also) just left me so moved/shocked when they ended. Man.... Braveheart might be the best Man-Movie ever. Great legend/story. Great battles with gruesome violence. A very bitchin love story gone wrong. Many places where all hell brakes loose. The hero dies for his cause (and his woman). And we get some gratuitous nudity. What more could you ask for? lol

We shall see if we can put it up there with those two Best picture winners. Currently, I rate TDK as the Best comic book movie ever. And the Begins/Knight saga as the best thing going right now (Next to the new Bond).

Maybe it's good I am seeing it again. If you think it is better than both of those Oscar winners, I may need to open my heart more.

P.S. That new Bond trailer had my blood boiling for that release as well. Daniel Craig (Bond). Matt Damon (Bourne). Bale (Batman). Downey (IronMan). And now Bale as John Conner. What more could a dude ask for????


Do you think some of your dissapointment with TDK is that you were expecting to dissapoint going in and that is what happened.

Despite my joking hype in this thread, I still havent seen it. It's not that big deal to me if it isn't as good as I expect so when I do see it (maybe today, likely in the next few days) I think it'll make a clear impression on me one way or the other. If I go in putting pressure on it to be the greatest movie ever, mentally I'll find a way for it not to be.
 

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Just saw the movie this afternoon great great movie Ledger was dead on for Joker the laugh he did was awsome and fit the joker real well, I also loved the way he talked in the low tone it was so evil sounding lol :). This movie makes 2 hrs seem like nothing it goes by so fast with all the explosions and fast paced action scenes defintally see this in theaters you don't want to miss it.
 

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Finally got to see it after the long wait. :D Easily the best move so far this year.
 

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Excellent Movie, Ledger was Incredible, Harvey Dent/Two face was great, all of the roles were acted superbly. Very, very, good movie.

I have to say these last 2 batman movies are the best 2 in the bunch, even as good as the 1st Batman movie w/ Michael Keaton was...
 

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Do you think some of your dissapointment with TDK is that you were expecting to dissapoint going in and that is what happened.

Despite my joking hype in this thread, I still havent seen it. It's not that big deal to me if it isn't as good as I expect so when I do see it (maybe today, likely in the next few days) I think it'll make a clear impression on me one way or the other. If I go in putting pressure on it to be the greatest movie ever, mentally I'll find a way for it not to be.

Your probably right... I said it over a week ago. The build up and agony of waiting really led me to over hype it.

The movie was great.... Don't get me wrong. I just can't put it up there with the other historically great movies of our time. If it takes best picture, and depending on it's staying power... I might re-adjust my placement. But for now it will have just be the best movie I have seen this year. IronMan comes in a close 2nd.
 

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As Expected. Now they need to get Bale signed on for another 3 or 4 of these.

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=+1]Dark Knight' sets weekend record with $155.34M[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Sunday July 20 1:47 PM ET[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]LOS ANGELES (AP) Batman has sent Spidey packing as king of Hollywood's box-office superheroes. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"The Dark Knight" took in a record $155.34 million in its first weekend, topping the previous best of $151.1 million for "Spider-Man 3" in May 2007 and pacing Hollywood to its biggest weekend ever, according to studio estimates Sunday. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"We knew it would be big, but we never expected to dominate the marketplace like we did," said Dan Fellman, head of distribution for Warner Bros., which released "The Dark Knight." The movie should shoot past the $200 million mark by the end of the week, he said.

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Hollywood set an overall revenue record of $253 million for a three-day weekend, beating the $218.4 million haul over the weekend of July 7, 2006, according to box-office tracker Media By Numbers. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"This weekend is such a juggernaut," said Nikki Rocco, head of distribution for Universal, whose musical "Mamma Mia!" debuted at No. 2 with $27.6 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Factoring in higher admission prices, "Spider-Man 3" may have sold slightly more tickets than "The Dark Knight." [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]At 2007's average price of $6.88, "Spider-Man 3" sold 21.96 million tickets over opening weekend. Media By Numbers estimates today's average movie prices at $7.08, which means "The Dark Knight" would have sold 21.94 million tickets. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Revenue totals for "The Dark Knight" could change when final numbers are released Monday. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]The movie's release was preceded by months of buzz and speculation over the performance of the late Heath Ledger as the Joker, Batman's nemesis. Ledger, who died in January from an accidental prescription-drug overdose, played the Joker as a demonic presence, his performance prompting predictions that the role might earn him a posthumous Academy Award nomination. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"The average opening gross of the last five `Batman' movies is $47 million. This tripled that, and for a reason," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of Media By Numbers. "A big part of that was the Heath Ledger mystique and a phenomenal performance that absolutely deserves the excitement surrounding it." [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"The Dark Knight" reunites director Christopher Nolan with his "Batman Begins" star Christian Bale, whose vigilante crime-fighter is taunted and tested by Ledger's Joker as the villain unleashes violence and chaos on the city of Gotham. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Overseas, "The Dark Knight" added $40 million in 20 countries where it began opening Wednesday, including Australia, Mexico and Brazil. The film opens in Great Britain this weekend and rolls out to most of the rest of the world over the next few weeks. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"The Dark Knight," which cost $185 million to make, also broke the "Spider-Man 3" record for best debut in IMAX large-screen theaters with $6.2 million. "Spider-Man 3" opened with $4.7 million in IMAX cinemas. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"Every single show is sold out," said Greg Foster, IMAX chairman and president. "We're adding shows as much as we can, but we're at 100 percent capacity." [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]On opening day Friday, "The Dark Knight" also took in more money than previously counted, Fellman said. The film pulled in a record $67.85 million, up nearly $1.5 million from the studio's estimates a day earlier. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]The previous opening-day record also had been held by "Spider-Man 3" with $59.8 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Women accounted for most of the audience for "Mamma Mia!", which Universal opened as counter-programming to the male-dominated audience for "The Dark Knight." [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"With the crowded summer, we knew we would have to find the right weekend, and this seemed like the perfect one considering three-quarters of our audience was female," Rocco said. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Based on the stage musical set to the tunes of ABBA, "Mamma Mia!" features Meryl Streep, Pierce Brosnan, Colin Firth, Stellan Skarsgard, Julie Walters and Christine Baranski. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]The weekend's other new wide release, 20th Century Fox's animated family flick "Space Chimps," opened at No. 7 with $7.4 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Estimated ticket sales for Friday through Sunday at U.S. and Canadian theaters, according to Media By Numbers LLC. Final figures will be released Monday. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]1. "The Dark Knight," $155.34 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]2. "Mamma Mia!", $27.6 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]3. "Hancock," $14 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]4. "Journey to the Center of the Earth," $11.9 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]5. "Hellboy II: The Golden Army," $10 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]6. "WALL-E," $9.8 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]7. "Space Chimps," $7.4 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]8. "Wanted," $5.1 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]9. "Get Smart," $4.1 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]10. "Kung Fu Panda," $1.8 million. [/SIZE][/FONT]
 

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Saw it and loved it. Easily one of the better movies I've seen in a long time, pick a genre.

Dent's alive. I'm almost sure. My reasoning is anatomic. Dent's stomach is moving up and down as he lies on the ground. I'm not a movie maker, but I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't let a dead character "breathe", and I'm sure there's some kinda movie trick that woulda covered this. Chap or other Holly-er? Also, BIM, a Maroni by any other name wouldn't smell as sweet.

Great, great movie.
 

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We saw this Friday night and absolutely loved it. The only issue any of us had (myself, my wife and my sister) was Maggie Gylenhall as the love interest.

Did Hollywood suddenly run out of attractive and talented actresses?

We went from Katie Holmes to Maggie. I'd get it if she wasn't supposed to be beautiful, but it's clear that Rachel Dawes is someone all three men find beautiful, and beautiful Maggie Gylenhall is not (Family Guy expressed her and Jakes' appearances best).

It did however spark an interesting conversation afterwards, which was, who would you have rather seen cast in her role? She's got to be brainy as the DA, but still very attractive as well and in her mid twenties to early thirties (or look that way at least) and have some star power to their name.

Here's our list:

Mandy Moore
Kristen Kreuk (nice DC tie in)
Claire Danes
Anne Hathaway
Kate Hudson
Kristen Bell
Scarlett Johansen
Olivia Wilde

Feel free to add your choices.

Anyway, GREAT GREAT movie!
 
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Batman The Dark Night, Best Movie of the Year

No doubt hands down best movie I have seen this year. This movie was too good to be a comic book film. It was that good.

Absolutely freaking brilliant performance by Heath Ledger. He sold being insane, menacing, psychotic and brilliant all at the same time. He owned that character from the "magic trick" scene. He stole every scene he was in and left a tension in the air after every scene he was in.

I will say this now. One of the best villain portrayals ever in film. Heath deserves the Oscar for this. I am so saddened to know that he won't be back for a round 2 of this character. The line that hit me hard was the one where he tells Batman, "I think we are destined to do this forever". Wow, I wish that were true.

This movie should also be nominated for Best Picture, Best Director and Screen play. I know this movie (including Heath) will get screwed by the Oscars. Hats off to Nolan and the cast. Kudos to Mr. Ledger....thanks for one hell of ride at the theater today.
 

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Really? Braveheart and Crash (seven also) just left me so moved/shocked when they ended. Man.... Braveheart might be the best Man-Movie ever. Great legend/story. Great battles with gruesome violence. A very bitchin love story gone wrong. Many places where all hell brakes loose. The hero dies for his cause (and his woman). And we get some gratuitous nudity. What more could you ask for? lol

We shall see if we can put it up there with those two Best picture winners. Currently, I rate TDK as the Best comic book movie ever. And the Begins/Knight saga as the best thing going right now (Next to the new Bond).

Maybe it's good I am seeing it again. If you think it is better than both of those Oscar winners, I may need to open my heart more.

P.S. That new Bond trailer had my blood boiling for that release as well. Daniel Craig (Bond). Matt Damon (Bourne). Bale (Batman). Downey (IronMan). And now Bale as John Conner. What more could a dude ask for????

Don't get me wrong, I loved Braveheart. I still really like it. I just think over the years after seeing it a bunch of times, it's flaws start coming through, and there are a few. I think it is deserving of a Best Picture win, of course, I just think The Dark Knight is a superior movie.

Crash, on the other hand, is (like Chicago and maybe Shakespeare in Love) one of the most undeserving Best Picture winners in recent memory.
 

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We saw this Friday night and absolutely loved it. The only issue any of us had (myself, my wife and my sister) was Maggie Gylenhall as the love interest.

Did Hollywood suddenly run out of attractive and talented actresses?

We went from Katie Holmes to Maggie. I'd get it if she wasn't supposed to be beautiful, but it's clear that Rachel Dawes is someone all three men find beautiful, and beautiful Maggie Gylenhall is not (Family Guy expressed her and Jakes' appearances best).

It did however spark an interesting conversation afterwards, which was, who would you have rather seen cast in her role? She's got to be brainy as the DA, but still very attractive as well and in her mid twenties to early thirties (or look that way at least) and have some star power to their name.

Here's our list:

Mandy Moore
Kristen Kreuk (nice DC tie in)
Claire Danes
Anne Hathaway
Kate Hudson
Kristen Bell
Scarlett Johansen
Olivia Wilde

Feel free to add your choices.

Anyway, GREAT GREAT movie!

Hmm, I kinda agree with you about the attractiveness quotient, but Maggie is one of the best young actresses in Hollywood. She's a better actress than any of your list you have above (although Scarlett comes close). She was certainly a lot better acting-wise than Katie Holmes.

As for who to put in her place? That's a tough one. I would think a few years ago Bridget Moynahan would have been a good choice.
 

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IMO they should always base it on tickets sold, not revenue.

Absolutely they should. That is the true barometer of the success of a movie. # of tickets sold is everything.
 

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No doubt hands down best movie I have seen this year. This movie was too good to be a comic book film. It was that good.

Absolutely freaking brilliant performance by Heath Ledger. He sold being insane, menacing, psychotic and brilliant all at the same time. He owned that character from the "magic trick" scene. He stole every scene he was in and left a tension in the air after every scene he was in.

I will say this now. One of the best villain portrayals ever in film. Heath deserves the Oscar for this. I am so saddened to know that he won't be back for a round 2 of this character. The line that hit me hard was the one where he tells Batman, "I think we are destined to do this forever". Wow, I wish that were true.

This movie should also be nominated for Best Picture, Best Director and Screen play. I know this movie (including Heath) will get screwed by the Oscars. Hats off to Nolan and the cast. Kudos to Mr. Ledger....thanks for one hell of ride at the theater today.

I think Heath should and will win an Oscar for it. I also think it stands a chance at best picture. I do not think it will win best screenplay, though I think the most deserving best screenplay thus far (In Bruges) will lose as well. It was a great flick, but all this talk of it being one of the best movies of all time is simply a result of the hype, IMO. Not even close to being top 10 all-time, although maybe, maybe it'll end up being in the top 50. It isn't my favorite comic book movie. I think Iron Man will keep a hold of that slot.
 

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Shane, you're not saying that Gylenhall makes a better love interest than those girls are you?

Obviously there's Alba, Biel, Beckinsale, Jolie etc that are all prettier than the girls I mentioned, but we agreed that they'd all be TOO pretty for the role (she does need to stand out from the models and ballerinas that Bruce Wayne dates).

I mean, you can't seriously prefer this (all of these pics are red carpet pics, not glam shots):

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Hmm, I kinda agree with you about the attractiveness quotient, but Maggie is one of the best young actresses in Hollywood. She's a better actress than any of your list you have above (although Scarlett comes close). She was certainly a lot better acting-wise than Katie Holmes.

As for who to put in her place? That's a tough one. I would think a few years ago Bridget Moynahan would have been a good choice.

Agree about Katie Holmes (wasn't a big fan of hers to begin with, so I figured recasting would have been so much easier). Moynahan would have been solid. If they would have done it Hillary Swank or Charlize Theron would have been great acting wise and much more believable as beautiful without looking like a super model (well, maybe not Theron).
 

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Shane, you're not saying that Gylenhall makes a better love interest than those girls are you?

This movie was so intelligent that casting just a pretty face would have been a bad idea. I think Gylenhall fit the part perfectly. It was believable that she had a brain and a heart. She has a sophistication about her. That's what the part called for.

Casting Denise Richards as an intelligent, sophisticated love interest is something for silly Bond movies. Not a movie like Dark Knight.
 

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I liked Gylenhall in the role. And, while she's not perfect-pretty, I think she's pretty enough.
 

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This movie was so intelligent that casting just a pretty face would have been a bad idea. I think Gylenhall fit the part perfectly. It was believable that she had a brain and a heart. She has a sophistication about her. That's what the part called for.

Casting Denise Richards as an intelligent, sophisticated love interest is something for silly Bond movies. Not a movie like Dark Knight.

I get what you're saying, but that's why I said she needs to be able to play brainy as well. Denise Richards never even entered the equation. But it's not like there aren't talented and attractive actresses out there. Putting just a pretty face would have been a shame and ruined the movie, I just think they went TOO far in the other direction.
 

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