The Market 2022-2023-2024

[jf-08]

I'm sort of holding tight right now. I have the roll over to invest in week or so but I was going to stay fairly safe with it with mostly index/retirement funds but I was thinking of maybe doing like 10k worth of GOOG. I currently don't own any of it individually.

For playing around I might park some more money in IPOF to stick with the s p a c mentions. It's under NAV right now from the market tank the last 2 weeks. Still no DA on it but there's been rumors/speculation that it might be Starlink or SpaceX. If either of those happens then I'd be really happy. I figure I'll give it at least February though. It looks like Elon is going to be on Chammy's podcast in 3 weeks. So if it's going to be either of those companies than right before the pod would good timing.



I thought that had been fixed when I ran into it a few months back. @jf-08 could we get S P A C uncensored please?

Weird that was on the list. Fixed. SPAC test.

 

[Finito]

I understand why you would try to catch a short term speculative ride on a MAGA S P A C, but what interests you in a pre-earnings company like PHUN considering the current sentiment and recent performance surrounding those types of stocks? They barely have any revenue either with just $7.3 million over the last 12 months and -$28 million in losses during that same time. Do you know when they expect to be profitable?

S P A C is censored????

Oh fundamentals mean nothing. It’s a pure swing for the fences ride the hype play.

The only time I even pay attention to fundamentals is in a long term blue chip. But for the most part it doesn’t matter if a company makes money these days. I mean Tesla till this day is still losing money making cars

 

[puckhead]

Weird that was on the list. Fixed. SPAC test.

It's about time, you SPAC-head.

 

[Finito]

Fortunately, I'm not that concerned about receiving your validation. And, as I already explained, I'm more interested in Cramer's influence than I am in whether he's "correct" in some absolute sense. I bet if we put our minds to it, we could come up with some other high-profile frauds who nonetheless have figured out a way to have a big impact.




Because people who make YouTube videos are more likely to be honest?

Oh 100%

This isn’t the dark ages you can pretty much find out anything you want to know on your own. The information is out there now

It’s pretty well known the MM buy the people on the TV. That’s why you will flat out see them lie through there teeth at times. It’s my opinion and you have yours but if your still watching cable tv to get your financial info your a dinosaur. Even places like the Motley Fool you can trace it all back to the Market Makers. The fix is in.

 

[Folster]

Oh fundamentals mean nothing. It’s a pure swing for the fences ride the hype play.

The only time I even pay attention to fundamentals is in a long term blue chip. But for the most part it doesn’t matter if a company makes money these days. I mean Tesla till this day is still losing money making cars

What signals or data do you look for to enter or exit a trade like PHUN? Are you looking at the technicals of the price?

 

[dscher]

Oh 100%

This isn’t the dark ages you can pretty much find out anything you want to know on your own. The information is out there now

It’s pretty well known the MM buy the people on the TV. That’s why you will flat out see them lie through there teeth at times. It’s my opinion and you have yours but if your still watching cable tv to get your financial info your a dinosaur. Even places like the Motley Fool you can trace it all back to the Market Makers. The fix is in.

Uh oh. Conspiracy alert!

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[elindholm]

Oh 100%

This isn’t the dark ages you can pretty much find out anything you want to know on your own. The information is out there now

It’s pretty well known the MM buy the people on the TV. That’s why you will flat out see them lie through there teeth at times. It’s my opinion and you have yours but if your still watching cable tv to get your financial info your a dinosaur. Even places like the Motley Fool you can trace it all back to the Market Makers. The fix is in.

I think it's simpler than you're making it. The people on television, or Motley Fool or anything else, have skin in the game just the way their audience does, except most likely more of it. They're not giving advice for free, nor for whatever subscription fees they might charge. They're trying to manipulate viewers to behave a certain way so that they can benefit from it. The SARK crowd is starting to think that they've extracted about as much value from that game as they can, so it's time for them to pivot. The question is, how much money will follow them?

This explanation doesn't require a mainstream media conspiracy. It also doesn't exempt the smaller players on YouTube or Reddit or Stocktwits whatever other rock you want to look under. Just take crypto as a great example. Why are people still hyping the crap out of it? To get more bottom-feeders in the pyramid scheme. Who do you think paid for the snazzy Matt Damon commercial? And more importantly, why?

People lie because they're hoping to gain an advantage from lying, not because the Illuminati has bought their loyalty.

You sound like a "do your own research" type, which is dangerous for people who lack any systematic approach to figuring out who is actually trustworthy. I note that your posts tend to be littered with obvious grammatical errors, which suggests that you shun education and think that anyone who makes an effort to construct an accurate sentence is part of the liberal media thought police. So I'd just encourage you to be careful about where you're getting your information.

Having said all of that, we are in agreement that Jim Cramer is a circus geek who has no credibility.

 

[Finito]

I think it's simpler than you're making it. The people on television, or Motley Fool or anything else, have skin in the game just the way their audience does, except most likely more of it. They're not giving advice for free, nor for whatever subscription fees they might charge. They're trying to manipulate viewers to behave a certain way so that they can benefit from it. The SARK crowd is starting to think that they've extracted about as much value from that game as they can, so it's time for them to pivot. The question is, how much money will follow them?

This explanation doesn't require a mainstream media conspiracy. It also doesn't exempt the smaller players on YouTube or Reddit or Stocktwits whatever other rock you want to look under. Just take crypto as a great example. Why are people still hyping the crap out of it? To get more bottom-feeders in the pyramid scheme. Who do you think paid for the snazzy Matt Damon commercial? And more importantly, why?

People lie because they're hoping to gain an advantage from lying, not because the Illuminati has bought their loyalty.

You sound like a "do your own research" type, which is dangerous for people who lack any systematic approach to figuring out who is actually trustworthy. I note that your posts tend to be littered with obvious grammatical errors, which suggests that you shun education and think that anyone who makes an effort to construct an accurate sentence is part of the liberal media thought police. So I'd just encourage you to be careful about where you're getting your information.

Having said all of that, we are in agreement that Jim Cramer is a circus geek who has no credibility.

Now I’m uneducated and a right wing conspiracy theorist. Huh interesting

Nothing says low self esteem more than playing grammar police on internet message boards. I’m sure you are way smarter than me, wife is way hotter than mine, bank account way bigger. I hope your doing great.

Listen bud I apologize for making fun of you. Your feeling we’re clearly hurt and your feeling some type of way.

 

[Folster]

I’m sure you are way smarter than me, wife is way hotter than mine, bank account way bigger.

I can help settle this. Pics? JK.

I would like to know more about your investment process. How do you determine if a company would make a good investment? What are your current holdings and what are your go to sources for research/ideas?

 

[Finito]

I can help settled this. Pics? JK.

I would like to know more about your investment process. How do you determine if a company would make a good investment? What are your current holdings and what are your go to sources for research/ideas?

Now big difference between investing and gambling. I like to gamble.

Like I said fundamentals are great if your investing long term in a company you believe it and you want smaller profits over the long haul.

That’s not me for the most part. I’m a swing trade gambler. I’m in and out for the most part. The thought of making a few thousand over a couple years does nothing for me.

You asked me about DWAC. Don’t care. I’m counting on the hype machine leading to it going live. Then I’ll jump out at a price that’s good for me.

I didn’t know it was considered a conspiracy theory to say mainstream media has been corrupted. I thought it was common knowledge. Red or Blue, Bull or Bear it’s all the same.

But I do like Charles Payne

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Charlie is also good on Ziptrader

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Meet Kevin

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Unusual Wales on Twitter is a good follow

https://mobile.twitter.com/unusual_whales

Those are some of the things I watch and cross reference for entertainment.

 

[dscher]

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[dscher]

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[Folster]

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China and Russia are in cahoots. Nothing will happen during the Olympics.

 

[dscher]

China and Russia are in cahoots. Nothing will happen during the Olympics.

Perfect time for a *gasp--wait for it* false flag/black swan though....I see us in a perfect storm of 'fear of loss of power' in the global picture. We've seen weird 'coincidences' over the decades now...

 

[Folster]

4 more shares of FB at 225. Basis is now $231.10.

 

[dscher]

Getting into the feeling of a bear market rally phase with strength in the morning and selling at the end of the day... The opposite of what happens with bull market dips.

 

[Russ Smith]

4 more shares of FB at 225. Basis is now $231.10.

Lucy has it at I think 39. I told her to sell at 300 but she likes to just hold. Still way ahead but I'm not sure I see FB getting back up there soon. Their big issue is this Apple change that impacts their entire ad fee structure apparently.

 

[Folster]

Lucy has it at I think 39. I told her to sell at 300 but she likes to just hold. Still way ahead but I'm not sure I see FB getting back up there soon. Their big issue is this Apple change that impacts their entire ad fee structure apparently.

That didn't seem to impact any other their social media competitors. Part of me thinks that they deliberately nerfed their forward guidance to relieve some political pressure and cast doubt on the idea they are a monopoly. They're not any more of a monopoly than Alphabet who has the same ethical issues with their search and YouTube algorithms. I doubt they foresaw such a precipitous drop in their stock price, but I bet they'll take advantage of it with massive buybacks. The next 2-3 quarters should be interesting.

 

[Folster]

The 10 year is now just below 2%. This is all based on what the Fed is saying and what investors think they'll do. The fed funds rate is still only 0.25%. CPI should be out Thursday. The number is expected to be hot, likely not as hot as last month.

 

[dscher]

The 10 year is now just below 2%. This is all based on what the Fed is saying and what investors think they'll do. The fed funds rate is still only 0.25%. CPI should be out Thursday. The number is expected to be hot, likely not as hot as last month.

It's the spike tech didn't want to see. Just like if yields starts to fall precipitously from here financials/industrials won't enjoy either. Eggshells everywhere. IMO

 

[Folster]

It's the spike tech didn't want to see. Just like if yields starts to fall precipitously from here financials/industrials won't enjoy either. Eggshells everywhere. IMO

I'm not a bond/rate expert, but I'm curious as to what a 2% 10 year is pricing in.

 

[dscher]

I'm not a bond/rate expert, but I'm curious as to what a 2% 10 year is pricing in.

Yep. No idea here either. My guess is the same as it has been. Bond market is going to ultimately force the feds hand. They might even need to increase before March if we get the 10 yr above that that 2 percent threshold if it what's alot of traders think the 10 yr is actually doing.... Rising in the face of higher inflation as opposed to higher economic output.

 

[dscher]

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@Folster you still loading up?

 

[Folster]

I'll buy another 4 shares if around $205. I love the market sentiment. One earnings call and everybody thinks it's trash. A lot of the CNBC talking heads are bearish.

 

[dscher]

I'll buy another 4 shares if around $205. I love the market sentiment. One earnings call and everybody thinks it's trash. A lot of the CNBC talking heads are bearish.

That 210 range should stabilize things and see some buyers there.. IMO.