The Official KVB Injury Update thread....

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Then explain to me why all of these white player supporters love Nate Poole some much. Last time I checked he was black. He has half the talent of KVB but is also a good guy that fans love to pull for.

How many Nate Poole jerseys are you going to see at Saturday's preseason game against the Bears?

People vote with their pocketbooks.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Then explain to me why all of these white player supporters love Nate Poole some much. Last time I checked he was black. He has half the talent of KVB but is also a good guy that fans love to pull for.

Last I checked, there were many more people that were big on KVB than there were people that were big on Nate Poole.

But hey, believe what you will.

Fact is, KVB has done NOTHING, and people saw him as a pass-rush savior.

Poole has done nothing, but I heard not a peep about him being any kind of star.

So, sorry to break that theory.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Then explain to me why all of these white player supporters love Nate Poole some much. Last time I checked he was black. He has half the talent of KVB but is also a good guy that fans love to pull for.

Do you see Nate Poole in commercials two consecutive years?

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by Stout
I don't know if it's because he's like 'us' Krang, but it gives him that underdog label.

For those who just want to label this as 'ridiculous', or whatever other title you have for it, go ahead and live with your delusions. I'll live with reality. Hell, in the time it took to get to this thread again, I've received a PM agreeing wholeheartedly. Of course, the person didn't want to post a true yet unpopular opinion on here. Seems you get yelled at for things like that.

And that isn't to say that all, or even most, of the people here care a damn about KVB's color. It's just that, to some, it gives him a bit of an underdog label. And that IS a fact, at a position and in a league that is predominantly NOT white. (That isn't saying I'm angry about that-it's just saying it makes KVB a bit of an underdog-don't want that misinterpreted!).

What about the players above. Poole, Gilmore, Fisher,

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by EndZone
But that is different because it doesnt support his shallow theory.

See below post.

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by Stout
Last I checked, there were many more people that were big on KVB than there were people that were big on Nate Poole.

But hey, believe what you will.

Fact is, KVB has done NOTHING, and people saw him as a pass-rush savior.

Poole has done nothing, but I heard not a peep about him being any kind of star.

So, sorry to break that theory.

Who said he was a pass rush savior?

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by EndZone
What about B. Gilmore? Hmmm same thing happens with Black Players. And Fisher, and Boldin,

maybe some people like desire, work ethic, talent, and are not as shallow as others.

Gilmore? See the Poole post.

Fisher and Boldin? Fisher-lots of NC State homers and speed.

Boldin? Great draft position, FSU homers and joke-starters that got way out of proportion. Also good reports on him from camp.

KVB? Work Ethic. Other than that, nothing.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Stout
I don't know if it's because he's like 'us' Krang, but it gives him that underdog label.

For those who just want to label this as 'ridiculous', or whatever other title you have for it, go ahead and live with your delusions. I'll live with reality. Hell, in the time it took to get to this thread again, I've received a PM agreeing wholeheartedly. Of course, the person didn't want to post a true yet unpopular opinion on here. Seems you get yelled at for things like that.

And that isn't to say that all, or even most, of the people here care a damn about KVB's color. It's just that, to some, it gives him a bit of an underdog label. And that IS a fact, at a position and in a league that is predominantly NOT white. (That isn't saying I'm angry about that-it's just saying it makes KVB a bit of an underdog-don't want that misinterpreted!).

Exactly. I'm being crucified, because I'm saying what I think.

And I'm not accusing any person of being racist. I'm saying that KVB has thousands of jerseys, and he is not a starter quality player.

 

[Jim O]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
The reason people love KVB is because of his unconditional love of the game of football and the total effort he gives on every play.

Great point. I like KVB because of the same reasons that Ronald McKinnon has been my favorite player since he came here. They love the game and play it the way they should.

McKinnon broke his thumb in the 2001 Raiders game, put a cast on it and finished the game. Two weeks later, with a cast on, he returned an interception for a TD against Dallas. The week after that, with a cast on, he had 17 tackles and a forced fumble at New York. The week after that, with a cast on, he returned a fumble for a TD at Carolina.

KVB had severely bruised his ribs against San Diego last year and had a sack in three consecutive games. He hurt his knee at St. Louis early in the game but stayed in and got a sack.

These are the type of players that I like. Not because of color, but because of unbelieveable toughness.

 

[kerouac9]

I'll speak up for Section 11 here. I've been one to say that KVB is popular out of proportion for his production for two extra-ordinary reasons: He's white and/or he's from Nebraska. There are a lot of Nebraska fans in the Valley, and they were quick to latch on to a player, especially a starter and high pick, from the school.

If it was Levar Fisher who had been injured, do you really think there would be an "Official Levar Fisher Injury Update Thread"?

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by EndZone
Who said he was a pass rush savior?

Nobody said he was a savior, but a lot of people around here act like he's a hugely talented player. It's never been seen.

And, by-the-by, I never quoted anyone as saying that. Don't try to discredit me by claiming so.

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by EndZone
Who said he was a pass rush savior?

Many people on this board expected him to have like 10 sacks this year. KVB is a bad pass rusher period now lets move on and think about who will replace him.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by EndZone
But that is different because it doesnt support his shallow theory.

MY SHALLOW THEORY???????


I'm not the first one who said this. Many posters have said this, so don't try attributing it to me. In fact I used to get angry with Kerouac about saying this about KVB until I realized he was 100% correct.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Exactly. I'm being crucified, because I'm saying what I think.

And I'm not accusing any person of being racist. I'm saying that KVB has thousands of jerseys, and he is not a starter quality player.

You mean those free ones that came with the tickets?
How many people were going to get a Plummer?? How many people already had Plummer and / or Boston?
Who the hell were they supposed to advertise?

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Jim Omohundro


These are the type of players that I like. Not because of color, but because of unbelieveable toughness.

But your perspective is different than the common fan.

You know the players personally.

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by Stout
And, by-the-by, I never quoted anyone as saying that. Don't try to discredit me by claiming so.

You said as much

Fact is, KVB has done NOTHING, and people saw him as a pass-rush savior.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
If you're going to make a claim like that, you probably should just be a man about it and say exactly who you're talking about that's pulling for him because he's white, because this generalization of the entire board is pure *****.

I'm not making a generalization of the entire board. I'm saying there are people out there that consider him being white as a reason to like him as an underdog. I am one of them. If he hadn't played well those first few games of his rookie season, I wouldn't have. I'm not going to root for someone JUST because he's white, and I'm not saying anyone else is either.

It's kind of like rooting for a big, white center in the NBA. The whole 'doing it against the odds' thing. And, please, no one misread this to say I think whites are at a disadvantage to blacks in the NFL.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Originally posted by azcardsfan1616
KVB is not a good DE. Give me talent over heart anyday. I'll take your randy moss' and David Boston's of the world before i would take the KVB's and the Nate Poole's of the world.

Wow, KVB is not a good DE? Just because he doesn't have huge sack totals doesn't mean he is not a good DE. The guy is not a sack specialist. He is an every down DE who I believe is an average but not great DE. Loosing KVB is a big blow to this team. Now it means that Fred Wakefield will have to start. At least KVB got some pressure on the QB.

You can have Nate Poole because I think he doesn't have enough talent to make this team. I was just using him as an example as to how crazy the white player theory was.

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
You mean those free ones that came with the tickets?
How many people were going to get a Plummer?? How many people already had Plummer and / or Boston?
Who the hell were they supposed to advertise?

What about shipp, starks, wilson, jones, Big.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
You mean those free ones that came with the tickets?
How many people were going to get a Plummer?? How many people already had Plummer and / or Boston?
Who the hell were they supposed to advertise?

Boston. Lassiter. Plummer. Davis. Sanders. Productive players.

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by azcardsfan1616
What about shipp, starks, wilson, jones, Big.

I believe Shipp Wilson Big and Jones have all been in advertisements.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by EndZone
You said as much

Fact is, KVB has done NOTHING, and people saw him as a pass-rush savior.

I said as much, but I never QUOTED anyone as saying that.

Let me ask you a simple question, since this isn't terribly hard, but you're making it so: If many people feel the same way about something, what can you do to summarize that feeling? Oh, oh, wait for it...you GENERALIZE. Cripes, this isn't rocket science!

Now, I'd use a smiley to lessen the impact of that sarcasm if my computer wasn't on the fritz, but really man, it isn't that difficult.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by MadCardDisease
Wow, KVB is not a good DE? Just because he doesn't have huge sack totals doesn't mean he is not a good DE. The guy is not a sack specialist. He is an every down DE who I believe is an average but not great DE. Loosing KVB is a big blow to this team. Now it means that Fred Wakefield will have to start. At least KVB got some pressure on the QB.

You can have Nate Poole because I think he doesn't have enough talent to make this team. I was just using him as an example as to how crazy the white player theory was.

KVB is not a good defensive end, in fact he is a below average defensive end. Has he ever proved otherwise???

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by kerouac9
I've been one to say that KVB is popular out of proportion for his production for two extra-ordinary reasons: He's white and/or he's from Nebraska.

I'll take Mike Rucker over KVB any day.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I'll take Mike Rucker over KVB any day.

So would I. Heck every team in the NFL has at least one defensive end that's better than him.