The Official KVB Injury Update thread....

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
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And you buy into Krang. You said yourself you pull for 'white, underdog' players.

Just because the marketing moguls give KVB or Jacobson commericials mean yu have to buy into their bullsh*t.

Thats what is pathetic!

I do, but I admit that I like to see diversity in everything.

I like black Qbs, I like Mexican receivers, I like Samoan lineman.

Why? Because they are different, and I like to see difference, not a completely heterogenous league.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
People like KVB because he is a try hard white boy.

If you notice, I said numerous times that his fans aren't racists.

I think this is where the tensions start. That's a fine line.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by SweetD
Doesn't King play DT?

He is a tweener guy. He was a DT in college (maybe NT?) but he can play outside too.

 

[HoodieBets]

I like playes who have names i cant pronounce. Like the steelers RB, and the bengals WR.

 

[Rivercard]

This thread is sickening. No, KVB is not the best DE in the game but by no means does he "suck". He is a dependable player who was slated to be a starter on an NFL team - supposedly your NFL team. Between the white/black issue and the way KVB is being discussed, I'm losing respect for some folks on this board.

 

[kerouac9]

Re: Ridiculous.

Originally posted by RugbyMuffin
Kraing,
I get what your saying. Yes, we have upped our defensive line talent, but come on dude. KVB's production will be missed.

1. Lowers the depth of the line.

2. He is a player, THERE is no disputing that. He makes plays.

3. He is a veteran. He knows the system. Yes, the younger guys are very talented but it takes time for them to get used to the NFL. KVB was perfect. Of course we all knew his playing time would decrease as the season goes on. But the first part of the season he was going to be the man on the defensive line.


YOU DON'T THINK HIS PRODUCTION WILL BE MISSED ? Tell me that after the frist four games. AND if somebody goes down, then really try to tell me about it. Plus more importantly he now has 2 bad knees so that pretty much, barring some serious serious rehab, end his career. SO instead of having KVB and Pace we just got Pace.

It is a serious serious serious loss and there ain't no other way to look at.

BTW - I HOPE YOUR RIGHT! I mean KVB is gone and that is that. I hope that the rest of the defensive line steps up and makes it seem like KVB wasn't even needed. BUT THAT IS TOUGH!

And regardless he was a quality player, and he played his @ss off for Arizona. I give him much respect and hope this is not the end of his career.

Peace

Rugby, you crack me up. Watch the tapes from this preaseason, his last two games, with his new bulk/speed/moves/health/development, and you'll see that, with all that going for him, he did nothing. He didn't do anything this preseason. People on this thread posted that he's not a pass rusher. The fact that that's what we drafted him for (with the #2 pick in the second round, no less) notwithstanding, he's not a run-stopper, either. Teams were actively running his way in both games, with holes that you could drive a tractor-trailer through. If he wasn't a pass-rusher, and he couldn't help stop the run, then what did he do besides collect paychecks and have a "non-stop" motor?

Rugby, please tell me what play's he's made in the past year and a half, because I don't remember any. I remember seeing a lot of him running into the frame after the plays were already made. Well done.

If Kenny King and Calvin Pace get two sacks over the sixteen games of 2003, they'll equal KVB's production.

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by azcardsfan1616
I like playes who have names i cant pronounce. Like the steelers RB, and the bengals WR.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
I think this is where the tensions start. That's a fine line.

I understand that completely, and I realized that when I made the comments. I've seen how everyone jumped on Kerouac when he said the same thing, but I'm not going to hold back my opinions because it hurts others feelings.

I'm not a racist, and I'm not claiming anyone else is racist.

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by Rivercard
This thread is sickening. No, KVB is not the best DE in the game but by no means does he "suck". He is a dependable player who was slated to be a starter on an NFL team - supposedly your NFL team. Between the white/black issue and the way KVB is being discussed, I'm losing respect for some folks on this board.

Dependable? Hes hurt every damn year. He would be third string on a team that had any kind of good line.

 

[Stout]

Originally posted by Rivercard
Huh?? How can we not "misread" that? When You say that you consider a player an "underdog" because he is white, you are saying that a white player is at a disadvantage. Some of your posts are really out there man.

Dude, I said it is 'A' reason to like him as an underdog, not THE reason. That's why I attached the disclaimer.

There are plenty of good white players out there in the NFL. There aren't as many good sacking DEs. A DE, therefore, has, AS ONE OF MANY REASONS, the fact that he is white to be considered an underdog.

And I'm not saying the white player is at a disadvantage. No one's inherently at a disadvantage from race. There just aren't as many of them at DE is all.

Sadly, your interpretation of my post is really out there, man. And if you think some of my other posts are out there, why haven't you said anything?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

If you lose respect for me because I think KVB sucked as a starting end then you never had it to begin with. And you making that decision is certainly no big loss for me.

Why? Because that is my opinion. I am not trouncing on yours.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Oh and Rivercard...

Don't let me catch you criticizing the play of any Cardinals this year.

You know...your Cardinals...they play for YOUR team...

I wouldn't want you to be a hypocrit or anything

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders
If you lose respect for me because I think KVB sucked as a starting end then you never had it to begin with. And you making that decision is certainly no big loss for me.

Why? Because that is my opinion. I am not trouncing on yours.

And again, you state almost exactly how I feel.

I'm not bashing others for liking KVB, and I'm not even telling people why they like him personally.

But I do think he is popular because he is a try hard white guy, not because he is a good productive player.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

WILL THE MODERATORS PLEASE CLOSE OUT THIS THREAD...IT IS ANNOYING.

KRANG IS NOT A RACIST

KVB IS GONE FOR THE SEASON (EXCEPT FOR TANGO WHO SEEMS TO WANT TO BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY)

ENDZONE IS BEATING A DEADHORSE

AND I AM HUNGRY!

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
(EXCEPT FOR TANGO WHO SEEMS TO WANT TO BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY)

lol

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by Stout
Sadly, your interpretation of my post is really out there, man. And if you think some of my other posts are out there, why haven't you said anything?

I just read em as I see em. I guess we just all have our own interpretations.

 

[HoodieBets]

Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
(EXCEPT FOR TANGO WHO SEEMS TO WANT TO BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY)

Priceless! funniest thing i read all day.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Originally posted by azcardsfan1616
Priceless! funniest thing i read all day.

Man, I have to admit that I feel sorry for Tango.....

Errrr, wait no I don't.

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
But I do think he is popular because he is a try hard white guy, not because he is a good productive player.

I think you are wrong in your generalization that he is popular because he is a "try hard" white dude. Maybe that's why some people like yourself and Stout like him, but I disagree that a majority of the fans feel that way.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Tango says

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The rumors that Kyle Vanden Bosch has been injured are lies brought to you by dark side infidels....

His knee is fine. In fact, as we speak, he is sacking the quarterback Brees of whom plays for San Diego for the hundreth time.

 

[EndZone]

Its better than beating live horses...if I beat a live horse someone would call the Humane Society.

 

[HoodieBets]

Re: Tango says

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders

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The rumors that Kyle Vanden Bosch has been injured are lies brought to you by dark side infidels....

His knee is fine. In fact, as we speak, he is sacking the quarterback Brees of whom plays for San Diego for the hundreth time.

I knew it.

 

[Rivercard]

Originally posted by Chris_Sanders
Oh and Rivercard...

Don't let me catch you criticizing the play of any Cardinals this year.

You know...your Cardinals...they play for YOUR team...

I wouldn't want you to be a hypocrit or anything

Hey, I like to criticize with the best of them! It's my opinion is that if you think KVB sucks then you are misguided. Now if you said McCown sucks then I'd be apt to agree :smile:

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Originally posted by Krangthebrain
I understand that completely, and I realized that when I made the comments. I've seen how everyone jumped on Kerouac when he said the same thing, but I'm not going to hold back my opinions because it hurts others feelings.

I'm not a racist, and I'm not claiming anyone else is racist.

Let me just add to the quote above.

And if you are a racist. You are an idiot. Race and Religion. Take them out of the world and it becomes a peacefully place!

Plus as learned on the rugby field we all bleed red! Krang and Kerauc9 are cool as h#ll and a nice dudes. They would not be one to spread hateful comments.

Yes, KVB is white, and he tries hard. So he called him a try hard white boy. I think that is an accurate description. I don't think it was an racial insult. So cool it out there. Your holier than though sensitivity is what leads to all that violence, and bad vibes that plague manking. Go smoke a fatty or something, and read what he said. Heck I thought it was funny.

If you are too serious all the time you are doomed to be filled with hate, and sorrow.

Peace men

 

[EndZone]

Originally posted by RugbyMuffin
Let me just add to the quote above.

And if you are a racist. You are an idiot. Race and Religion. Take them out of the world and it becomes a peacefully place!

Plus as learned on the rugby field we all bleed red! Krang and Kerauc9 are cool as h#ll and a nice dudes. They would not be one to spread hateful comments.

Yes, KVB is white, and he tries hard. So he called him a try hard white boy. I think that is an accurate description. I don't think it was an racial insult. So cool it out there. Your holier than though sensitivity is what leads to all that violence, and bad vibes that plague manking. Go smoke a fatty or something, and read what he said. Heck I thought it was funny.

If you are too serious all the time you are doomed to be filled with hate, and sorrow.

Peace men

Yes we all bleed red..

HUSKER RED!