The Official Still Hating on Shawn Marion thread.

[scoutmasterdave]

And some of us thought we'd miss Shawn's rebounding...

It is just unbelievable how much of a difference Shaq has made on the boards. He blocks out one and two guys every time it goes up, and pulled down 14 rebounds himself tonight. I can't remember the last time I saw the Suns get 18 more rebounds than the other team - it must be years ago.

I really like what I'm seeing - for some reason I'm not missing Shawn very much.

 

[sunsbo]

Tonight: +18 Total, +4 Offensive Rebounds
Wed night: +13 Total, +9 Offensive Rebounds

 

[arwillan]

shaq's intangibles showed up on the boards too...grant hill had 13, for example.

 

[BeeBeard]

It is just unbelievable how much of a difference Shaq has made on the boards. He blocks out one and two guys every time it goes up, and pulled down 14 rebounds himself tonight. I can't remember the last time I saw the Suns get 18 more rebounds than the other team - it must be years ago.

I really like what I'm seeing - for some reason I'm not missing Shawn very much.

It's funny you mention that. Marion would always give the Suns lots of rebounds personally but they were more opportunistic boards, and not the traditional kind you get by planting a big man in the paint so he can establish rebounding position.

I was amused that Shaq was boxing Celtics players out two and in some cases three at a time--he really is that enormous--and the net effect was that either he would get the board, or another Suns player would. Hell, Grant Hill got a ton of rebounds tonight because of Shaq's presence.

I think a lot of "analysts" and trade-naysayers were eager to do a numbers to numbers comparison of Shaq vs. Marion, never taking into account that Shaq makes the entire team better at rebounding. I saw Shaq shooting free throws and in the background on the ESPN feed you could see D'Antoni smiling (something he doesn't do much during games, as we all know) and joking around. D'Antoni knew that his team had turned the corner.

 

[Griffin]

The rebounds Marion normally would get have been picked up by Hill, Diaw, Bell, Stat and even Nash. The rebounds that normally would go to the other team now belong to Shaq.

 

[BeeBeard]

The rebounds Marion normally would get have been picked up by Hill, Diaw, Bell, Stat and even Nash. The rebounds that normally would go to the other team now belong to Shaq.

Exactly.

 

[jagu]

Nash had 7 boards. Shaq makes a big difference and its not even a fluke.

 

[az1965]

The only thing is the FT % is going to take a nose dive...

 

[sunsbo]

Yeah, its hard to imagine the suns out rebounding a team by 12 when nash gets one more rebound than amare. Everyone was hitting the boards tonight.

 

[SirStefan32]

Hill is the new and improved Marion.

 

[BeeBeard]

It's even better than that though, guys.

The Suns outrebounded the second best team in the league at limiting opponents rebounds.

(The pre-Shaq Suns were *ahem* 29th out of 30th in that particular stat.)

 

[da_suns_fan]

Its simply amazing. Now all I hope is our guys can stay healthy.

 

[DeAnna]

It's funny you mention that. Marion would always give the Suns lots of rebounds personally but they were more opportunistic boards, and not the traditional kind you get by planting a big man in the paint so he can establish rebounding position.

You are absolutely right. But I still miss the Matrix anway.

 

[az1965]

You are absolutely right. But I still miss the Matrix anway.

But you have Boris now

 

[nowagimp]

It is just unbelievable how much of a difference Shaq has made on the boards. He blocks out one and two guys every time it goes up, and pulled down 14 rebounds himself tonight. I can't remember the last time I saw the Suns get 18 more rebounds than the other team - it must be years ago.

I really like what I'm seeing - for some reason I'm not missing Shawn very much.

Yeah it is nice to see KG getting only 5 boards in 32 minutes, even if its only his 3rd game back from injury. The celtics arent any team either. The shaq/amare/hill combo has been great on the boards. I cant recall seeing shaq move like that recently, blocking rondos shot coming from the weak side, amazing old man that shaq. Im a shawn marion fan, but the trade appears to be a stroke of genius. All those experts were wrong, 90% of them though it was a terrible trade. Its nice to see Walton eat crow while the suns beat his celtics. If shaq continues like this it will be so nice to see all those ESPN/TNT guys eat massive servings of crow. KG wasnt back, but the suns played just about the entire game without LB, and were very sloppy with the ball(24 turnovers). I can see some big improvement when they learn to play with the diesel on offense better.

 

[mkapp]

The rebounds Marion normally would get have been picked up by Hill, Diaw, Bell, Stat and even Nash. The rebounds that normally would go to the other team now belong to Shaq.

all your boards are belong to us.

 

[elindholm]

all your boards are belong to us.

Heh! It should be "board," but that's great. I'll have to steal it.

 

[Nash2Amare]

all your boards are belong to us.

 

[tobiazz]

Yeah it is nice to see KG getting only 5 boards in 32 minutes, even if its only his 3rd game back from injury. The celtics arent any team either. The shaq/amare/hill combo has been great on the boards. I cant recall seeing shaq move like that recently, blocking rondos shot coming from the weak side, amazing old man that shaq. Im a shawn marion fan, but the trade appears to be a stroke of genius. All those experts were wrong, 90% of them though it was a terrible trade. Its nice to see Walton eat crow while the suns beat his celtics. If shaq continues like this it will be so nice to see all those ESPN/TNT guys eat massive servings of crow. KG wasnt back, but the suns played just about the entire game without LB, and were very sloppy with the ball(24 turnovers). I can see some big improvement when they learn to play with the diesel on offense better.

It is pretty funny that the Suns have been ridiculed for years for not having a center and then ridiculed further for acquiring a former MVP center.

 

[Mainstreet]

The only thing is the FT % is going to take a nose dive...

Yes, but the Suns should be getting to the FT line more often which should negate this negative.

 

[Bufalay]

who cares about team free throw percentage? the suns have been at the top of the league for a couple years and that hasn't really done much for them

 

[btimsah]

I saw Skinner and I notice he plays too far from the basket. Shaq just sits under that net on defense. Skinner and Amare have a tendency to get away from the basket so they can't get those easy loose rebs off the basket.

Shaq is old and won't be able to play all the time, or in every game. Skinner and Amare need to CRASH THE BOARDS more too, I think.

 

[btimsah]

all your boards are belong to us.

Someone set us up the Shaq.

 

[TheHopToad]

I am a Shawn Marion fan and I was skeptical at first about the deal, but I have to admit that since this trade went down, I have not missed him once. Shaq opens up so many possibilities that were missing before. Plus, any perception of chemistry issues in the lockerroom is gone and this group seems pretty close and motivated. They seem as stoked as I am.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Someone set us up the Shaq.

omg I was typing that as I read your post


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