The Suns with the 2018 #1 overall pick select....

[slinslin]

Did you read it that way? I guess I didn't... well, maybe that isn't so bad. Almost 100% sure that isn't happening, as Knicks will be atrocious next year and we won't be.

Agree that this is almost certainly bogus anyway.

I read it as Milwaukee pick (which has protections) and if it is nt conveyed swap rights with the Suns pick (#1 protected)

Swap always means swap with their pick. I have never heard someone refer to a swap otherwise.

 

[JCSunsfan]

But we would get the Knicks pick

Most likely the Knicks and Suns picks are not going to be far apart or our pick worse anyway.

That said it seems like a clear hoax to me. No GM can be dumb enough to assign any value to Bender.

Bender has to be the worst draft pick in Suns history and the worst player to ever start x amount of games for the Suns.

Ah. Here we go. Back to Bender again. No point redoing that conversation.

 

[pokerface]

Not getting past Orlando.

I messed up my text ...I meant I DONT see him falling to #9. For the same reason. Orlando probably has a death grip on Trae.

 

[Chaplin]

I read it as Milwaukee pick (which has protections) and if it is nt conveyed swap rights with the Suns pick (#1 protected)

Swap always means swap with their pick. I have never heard someone refer to a swap otherwise.

Yeah, after reading more about this, I got that feeling as well (swap instead of outright giving the pick up). If that is the case, then not so bad, especially if Trae is actually sitting there at #9. I hate to give up Bender and not Chriss, but oh well.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I read it as Milwaukee pick (which has protections) and if it is nt conveyed swap rights with the Suns pick (#1 protected)

Swap always means swap with their pick. I have never heard someone refer to a swap otherwise.

Well, it depends on what picks are being swapped. It could be the rights to swap the Knicks pick with the Suns pick or it could be the rights to swap the Milwaukee pick for the Suns pick. Its a rumor anyway, so no point in arguing details.

 

[Finito]

Do it!!!!!

 

[GatorAZ]

Do it!!!!!

For who??? Trae will be gone...

 

[Finito]

For who??? Trae will be gone...

I don't think he will at all.

 

[pokerface]

I don't think he will at all.

Umm...Orlando needs a pg and Young will be sitting there at #6. Who do you think they want more?

 

[Mainstreet]

But we would get the Knicks pick

Most likely the Knicks and Suns picks are not going to be far apart or our pick worse anyway.

That said it seems like a clear hoax to me. No GM can be dumb enough to assign any value to Bender.

Bender has to be the worst draft pick in Suns history and the worst player to ever start x amount of games for the Suns.

It would be two first round picks and a project player for #9. Maybe the Knicks see some upside in Bender even if you don't.

 

[Finito]

Umm...Orlando needs a pg and Young will be sitting there at #6. Who do you think they want more?

Ummm.... Orlando needs everything hell they might even trade Gordon soon. Not exactly a stable franchise.

 

[Mainstreet]

Ummm.... Orlando needs everything hell they might even trade Gordon soon. Not exactly a stable franchise.

Maybe the Suns should be dealing with the Magic.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I messed up my text ...I meant I DONT see him falling to #9. For the same reason. Orlando probably has a death grip on Trae.

Not sure about that. It will take two or more of Carter, Bridges, or Sexton moving up.

1. Ayton. Lock.
2. Bagley. Almost a lock.
3. Bamba. Possible.
4. JJJr. This pick is the wild card in the draft. Maybe Doncic here.
5. Porter. JJJr here if Doncic goes to Memphis.
6. Doncic. If Doncic is gone, then Porter to Orlando?
7. Carter. Cleveland goes conservative.
8. Bridges. Bridges is a great fit in Chicago and should probably be drafted ahead of Young.
9. Young on the board.

Its a reasonable scenario. The keys would be Cleveland and Orlando. If Orlando takes Young, then Porter is on the board for the Knicks.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Quiz:
Which 2018 NBA Draft Prospect Do You Prefer?
https://www.nba.com/suns/draft/which-2018-nba-draft-prospect-do-you-prefer-0

My result: Trae Young
they got it right in regards to my style preference
but i do believe Ayton is the best value

 

[1tinsoldier]

i'd say there's less than a 15% chance Young or Porter is available at 9
but that's enough to warrant a contingency plan prepared with the knicks

now let's prepare something for Cleveland
and work our way down

 

[BC867]

So your argument is . . . having the additional information/insight is a BAD thing?!?

No, Ouchie, I didn't say that! I would never say something so vague.

Having additional information/insight is hardly a bad thing. But having the #1 pick in the draft is choosing one player over all others. Not just a 'yes' or 'no' on one player.

Having additional information about only one of the draftees is incomplete. The 'good' doesn't mean he is better than the rest. Whereas if there were a significant 'bad', it could conceivably rule him out, regardless of the rest.

Which is why I specifically posted, "So his inside information is incomplete concerning the choice of a #1 pick. Especially when it concerns a Small Forward who wants to be a Point Guard. On a very young team that needs an experienced Point Guard running the offense, after choosing a Center."

How do you get "having the additional information/insight is a BAD thing" out of that? You definitely misquoted. I hope this clarifies it. Thanks.

 

[Mainstreet]

Quiz:
Which 2018 NBA Draft Prospect Do You Prefer?
https://www.nba.com/suns/draft/which-2018-nba-draft-prospect-do-you-prefer-0

My result: Trae Young
they got it right in regards to my style preference
but i do believe Ayton is the best value

I did the test for a big man and my result was Ayton.

I did it for a PG and my result was Doncic.

 

[1tinsoldier]

answering with a position in mind changes everything
i prioritized size and defense
of course, got Bamba

 

[Folster]

On reddit someone claims to have intel that the Knicks and Suns have a deal lined up if Porter is not on the board at 9.

16, Bender, Milwaukee Pick for 9 (Trae Young)

Link?

 

[devilalum]

For all those that want to see a twin towers approach (which I think is a waste) I'm sure you'll get to see it occasionally next season with Ayton and Chandler.

 

[1tinsoldier]

For all those that want to see a twin towers approach (which I think is a waste) I'm sure you'll get to see it occasionally next season with Ayton and Chandler.

true. if playing alongside a young stud lights a firecracker under his ass!

 

[devilalum]

true. if playing alongside a young stud lights a firecracker under his ass!

Chandler can be a great mentor for Ayton. He can still play. He was just put in a difficult position last year. They were trying to evaluate Len. Then they went full tank. It's hard to use last year as an indicator of much at all.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Quiz:
Which 2018 NBA Draft Prospect Do You Prefer?
https://www.nba.com/suns/draft/which-2018-nba-draft-prospect-do-you-prefer-0

My result: Trae Young
they got it right in regards to my style preference
but i do believe Ayton is the best value

I got Ayton

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No, Ouchie, I didn't say that! I would never say something so vague.

Having additional information/insight is hardly a bad thing. But having the #1 pick in the draft is choosing one player over all others. Not just a 'yes' or 'no' on one player.

Having additional information about only one of the draftees is incomplete. The 'good' doesn't mean he is better than the rest. Whereas if there were a significant 'bad', it could conceivably rule him out, regardless of the rest.

Which is why I specifically posted, "So his inside information is incomplete concerning the choice of a #1 pick. Especially when it concerns a Small Forward who wants to be a Point Guard. On a very young team that needs an experienced Point Guard running the offense, after choosing a Center."

How do you get "having the additional information/insight is a BAD thing" out of that? You definitely misquoted. I hope this clarifies it. Thanks.

I guess I read it that way because Koko isn’t the decision maker, he’s the head coach. So his knowledge is just another source of information. I don’t see it as incomplete because McD is the one tasked with making the call not koko.

 

[BC867]

true. if playing alongside a young stud lights a firecracker under his ass!

Unfair to Chandler. He is in the twilight of his career, with a tanking team last season. And trying to develop his replacement, Len = Mission Impossible.

Whether looking at Tyson's career or last season, he deserves more respect than "lights a firecracker under his ass."