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I don't have a problem with it being Eugene calling - but it might have been more interesting if he continued to transmit so that Darryl, Sasha, and Abraham would learn that Alexandria was being overrun before they were waylaid by Negan's group.

I do agree that it seems strange that these three in particular would get out of the truck and disarm. If anything I wouldn't be surprised if they plowed through a roadblock without asking questions. Maybe Abraham or Sasha should have been driving...
 

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What makes it dumb is it's pretty standard when you have multiple aspects of a story happening at the same time, the audience assumes it's the same timeline unless otherwise established. That's why most writers will say "12 hours earlier" or something like it.

I don't recall them doing anything similar. So, doing something like that is really stupid. It the audience is confused about who the voice was.....that just confirms it.

As soon as I saw Eugene say help, I knew it was him that said it to Darryl as it was Darryl calling on the walkie. Not sure why it was confusing, maybe just missed that scene?
 

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I don't have a problem with it being Eugene calling - but it might have been more interesting if he continued to transmit so that Darryl, Sasha, and Abraham would learn that Alexandria was being overrun before they were waylaid by Negan's group.

I do agree that it seems strange that these three in particular would get out of the truck and disarm. If anything I wouldn't be surprised if they plowed through a roadblock without asking questions. Maybe Abraham or Sasha should have been driving...

They did have AR-15s pointed at the truck :shrug:
 

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As soon as I saw Eugene say help, I knew it was him that said it to Darryl as it was Darryl calling on the walkie. Not sure why it was confusing, maybe just missed that scene?

I agree. Zero confusion.
 

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They did have AR-15s pointed at the truck :shrug:

Yet we have scene these characters always have guns at arms length whenever they are out and about. They had some pretty heavy fire power themselves per the previous scenes they were in right?

Where is the RPG? Get out of the truck with that...nobody is messing with you.
 

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Yet we have scene these characters always have guns at arms length whenever they are out and about. They had some pretty heavy fire power themselves per the previous scenes they were in right?

Where is the RPG? Get out of the truck with that...nobody is messing with you.

its probably in the back of the truck and even if it wasn't, they are long as hell, if he grabbed that the guys would have started shooting IMO. The saviors are ruthless and will quickly kill all 3 of them for their stuff. I would have loved to see him shoot the rocket and kill the whole group but they are introducing a massive shift to the series.
 

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its probably in the back of the truck and even if it wasn't, they are long as hell, if he grabbed that the guys would have started shooting IMO. The saviors are ruthless and will quickly kill all 3 of them for their stuff. I would have loved to see him shoot the rocket and kill the whole group but they are introducing a massive shift to the series.

Just rewatched. They have distance and cover using the truck. They had their weapons in the cab. Those Negan guys were in the open with no cover at all. It would have been over quickly if a gun fight erupted with them exposed like that.

We have seen this group go all Mexican Standoff in worse situations.
 

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I guess my take is that there is no reason for them to even entertain the idea that armed humans they meet won't kill them. Even at a disadvantage, there is no reason to surrender or disarm. Darryl literally just came from a situation where he saved some people from a bad group of men (and they turned on him in the end, too). People people attacked them on recons at the farm; people attacked them at the prison; people tried to eat them at Sanctuary; the Claimers Darryl was with for a while were murderers; and on and on and on.

Rule #1: do not stop at roadblocks!

But this is the choice they made.
 

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Sure would have been nice if they had done a Walking Dead Christmas special. Oh well. Maybe next year.
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This is starting to get pretty old. People seem unhappy that the new Star Wars movie is a rehash, but how many times has the Darryl-Sasha-Abraham scenario been done? From the video Brian posted, it certainly looks like Darryl is turning over his weapon to the lead butthead. Why would he do that? Why would the butthead even talk to them? Just kill 'em and take their stuff.

Maybe that would make for bad TV.... I don't know. But you would think our team would actually learn something once in awhile, ya know????
 

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In case anyone is interested:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2675341-Darabont-Depo.html

This is the released deposition of Frank Darabont about his lawsuit against AMC regarding his termination from The Walking Dead in the middle of the 2nd season. Interesting stuff. And makes you think about what the show would be like had he and/or Glen Mazarra had stayed on. The current showrunner Scott Gimple is basically a yes man.
 

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In case anyone is interested:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2675341-Darabont-Depo.html

This is the released deposition of Frank Darabont about his lawsuit against AMC regarding his termination from The Walking Dead in the middle of the 2nd season. Interesting stuff. And makes you think about what the show would be like had he and/or Glen Mazarra had stayed on. The current showrunner Scott Gimple is basically a yes man.

Interesting read. Thanks for posting that. It appears they wanted a yes man. They didn't want Frank to question budget or anything else. Just to keep his mouth shut and work until he dropped if need be. Seems to me he went above and beyond to help editing and re-shoots when needed. Then they said he was late for doing it.

Wow.
 

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i tried reading some of it but I got bored. Was he a writer or something? I am clueless on the back end of the show, just the front end.
 

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i tried reading some of it but I got bored. Was he a writer or something? I am clueless on the back end of the show, just the front end.

Frank Darabont is a writer/director -- he wrote and directed Shawshank and the Green Mile. He was a HUGE part of the series when if first started and AMC forced him out.
 

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Frank Darabont is a writer/director -- he wrote and directed Shawshank and the Green Mile. He was a HUGE part of the series when if first started and AMC forced him out.

They marketed the hell out of his name being attached to the show. He is the only reason I gave the show a shot. If his name wasn't attached I would have just thought it to be some b movie show crap not worth my time.
 

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Frank Darabont is a writer/director -- he wrote and directed Shawshank and the Green Mile. He was a HUGE part of the series when if first started and AMC forced him out.

They marketed the hell out of his name being attached to the show. He is the only reason I gave the show a shot. If his name wasn't attached I would have just thought it to be some b movie show crap not worth my time.

I guess the last name does ring a bell.

Anyone see the mid season premiere teaser? If not, there is nothing there really lol

It had rick say I thought we could live behind these walls. I was wrong.

Then it shows Daryl Giving his pistol to Negans crew and it was over.
 

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I guess the last name does ring a bell.

Anyone see the mid season premiere teaser? If not, there is nothing there really lol

It had rick say I thought we could live behind these walls. I was wrong.

Then it shows Daryl Giving his pistol to Negans crew and it was over.

Yeah...did nothing for me unlike some teasers in the past that had me excited.
 

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Yeah...did nothing for me unlike some teasers in the past that had me excited.

Maybe there will be a bigger one soon. I got all excited, brought my daughter in the living room and when we watched it it basically revealed nothing.
 

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In case anyone is interested:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2675341-Darabont-Depo.html

This is the released deposition of Frank Darabont about his lawsuit against AMC regarding his termination from The Walking Dead in the middle of the 2nd season. Interesting stuff. And makes you think about what the show would be like had he and/or Glen Mazarra had stayed on. The current showrunner Scott Gimple is basically a yes man.

I imagine I'd still be watching if Darabont were still with the show.
 

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Frank Darabont is a writer/director -- he wrote and directed Shawshank and the Green Mile. He was a HUGE part of the series when if first started and AMC forced him out.

he also wrote the best Freddy Kruger movie... Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors!

and reading that document... HOLY COW. They were getting scripts in 8 WEEKS before shooting? Do you guys have any idea how insane that is in the writing world? Having written on both cable and network TV, I don't think I've EVER gotten a script to the Network earlier then a week before prep... which is usually a week or so before shooting. That's super insane.

and they're claiming they never held tone meetings on ANY script? No way. No way I believe that. That said, if they were having 5 HOUR tone meetings on every script, that's ludicrous as well.
 
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In case anyone is interested:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2675341-Darabont-Depo.html

This is the released deposition of Frank Darabont about his lawsuit against AMC regarding his termination from The Walking Dead in the middle of the 2nd season. Interesting stuff. And makes you think about what the show would be like had he and/or Glen Mazarra had stayed on. The current showrunner Scott Gimple is basically a yes man.

I don't think I posted this before, but this is a video of Sam Witwer explaining Darabont's ideas for the direction of the second season...and how AMC shafted him.

 

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I imagine I'd still be watching if Darabont were still with the show.

I have the last five episodes waiting for me on my DVR...it loses "call-waiting faceoff" to the likes of Flip or Flop, Rehab Addict, and Alaska the Last Frontier nowadays.
 

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I have the last five episodes waiting for me on my DVR...it loses "call-waiting faceoff" to the likes of Flip or Flop, Rehab Addict, and Alaska the Last Frontier nowadays.

ah man this season has been great, especially episode 2.
 
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