There’s still a possibility we draft Nabers

[Garthshort]

My preference in this draft (assuming no trade)

1. MHJ
2. Alt
3. Fashanu
4. Nabers
5. Odunze

If MHJ is gone:
1, Trade
2. Draft BPA as I have listed.

Your trade option makes sense as it means that there is still a QB (top three) available. I could see a repeat of last year, trade back and then back up. Can't wait.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I hadn’t realized he’s 6’1. That changes my thinking about him entirely. For some reason I was thinking 5’10/5’11.

 

[kerouac9]

I hadn’t realized he’s 6’1. That changes my thinking about him entirely. For some reason I was thinking 5’10/5’11.

He looked small on tape… interesting to see what shows at the Combine

 

[Mulli]

He looked small on tape… interesting to see what shows at the Combine

You watched actual film? Reel to reel?

 

[kerouac9]

You watched actual film? Reel to reel?

Real ones know it's microfiche or nothing

 

[Mulli]

Real ones know it's microfiche or nothing

Old school.

 

[oaken1]

I hadn’t realized he’s 6’1. That changes my thinking about him entirely. For some reason I was thinking 5’10/5’11.

It is interesting. When I looked him up in November he was listed as 6' .... With growth spurts like that he might be 6'4" by draft day.... Be really curious if he skips the combine

 

[Cards Crazy]

I hadn’t realized he’s 6’1. That changes my thinking about him entirely. For some reason I was thinking 5’10/5’11.

To me the combine measurables will say a lot him if 6' or over he certainly becomes a very viable option at 4

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

To me the combine measurables will say a lot him if 6' or over he certainly becomes a very viable option at 4

Yeah I might come around on him if that’s the case. 6 foot or taller and can move like that?

 

[PACardsFan]

Yeah I might come around on him if that’s the case. 6 foot or taller and can move like that?

I’m not an LSU fan, so I didn’t watch much of Nabers this year. But, I have since watched quite a bit of his tape. What I see is a great overall WR who creates a TON of separation, has great hands, and produces YAC. In any other draft, he’s the #1 WR picked. Then you have MHJ, who is exceptional at almost everything EXCEPT YAC. Now, that may be because OSU did not have a great QB throwing him the ball this year. Too many times he had to stop and wait for passes. And you have to go back to Fitz coming out of Pitt to see a WR who high points the ball as well as MHJ does. Is MHJ generational? Time will tell. But, I think Nabers is a game changer also.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I don't know much about Nabers, but this article from a scout gave me some pause, especially the part about 50/50 balls.

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"For every ‘wow’ play Nabers produces when he blows the doors off a secondary, there are a couple of passes thrown his way when he lacks concentration and his route running looks undisciplined.


Nabers loses focus and/or interest at times. Occasionally, he’s not in the right spot or he’ll drop one he shouldn’t have."

Drop facts​

I want to make this clear, Nabers isn’t losing focus to the point he’s drop-happy because he’s not, it’s more or less his traits aren’t consistently matching the outcome.

In terms of Nabers’ catch rate:
2021: 28 receptions on 46 targets (60.9%)
2022: 72 receptions on 99 targets (72.8%)
2023: 89 receptions on 130 targets (68.4%)

Nabers three-year college career catch rate average = 67.3%

A dynamic receiver who stretches the field, but shows lapses of intensity and focus at times. Muscular frame and long arms. Lines up outside, but may factor more from the slot. Burst release. Works all three route levels (short, intermediate, and deep). Explodes into secondaries. Can make crisp breakpoints. Uses frame to box out corners. Excels at curl and stop-and-go deep routes where he can sell the curl and the intermediate dagger route. Knack for exploiting secondaries. Works back to the quarterback when he’s in trouble. Inconsistent on 50-50 balls. Routes can get undisciplined at times. Can get outmuscled. Decent blocker.

 

[TheCardFan]

I don't know much about Nabers, but this article from a scout gave me some pause, especially the part about 50/50 balls.

If you don't like that one, your not going to like this one:


While the rest of the free world is busy kissing Ohio State receiver Marvin Harrison Jr.’s helmet, I am here to shed some light on the mainstream narrative. I am going to dare to write something different than the choir.

Keep in mind, I’m not doing this for clicks. My end game is to get back into the NFL.

Is Harrison talented?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a first-round talent?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a top-5 value?

No, he’s not.

Why not?

Game film.

Marvin Harrison Jr. Doesn't Like To Go Out of His Way

Watch Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. in eight games embedded into this article.

firstroundmock.com

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I'll join the pile on. Burrow's great year culminated in a National Championship. Daniels' resulted in a 10-3 record and third-place finish in the SEC West.

That's not the whole story...the 2019 defense ranked better than 2023, even with 2 more games played. But, whatever.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

If you don't like that one, your not going to like this one:


While the rest of the free world is busy kissing Ohio State receiver Marvin Harrison Jr.’s helmet, I am here to shed some light on the mainstream narrative. I am going to dare to write something different than the choir.

Keep in mind, I’m not doing this for clicks. My end game is to get back into the NFL.

Is Harrison talented?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a first-round talent?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a top-5 value?

No, he’s not.

Why not?

Game film.

Marvin Harrison Jr. Doesn't Like To Go Out of His Way

Watch Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. in eight games embedded into this article.

firstroundmock.com

Interesting read...some things worth considering for sure.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

First he says, 'Keep in mind, I’m not doing this for clicks.'
And then he has other articles like:
Cameron Ward Higher NFL Ceiling Than Caleb Williams
QB Drake Maye: Bottom-Tier NFL Starter

He is doing it for clicks.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Rome Odunze NFL Draft 2024: Scouting Report for Washington WR

HEIGHT: 6'3" WEIGHT: 212 HAND: 9¼" ARM: 32¼" WINGSPAN: 76¾" 40-YARD DASH: 4.45 3-CONE: 6.88 SHUTTLE: 4.03 VERTICAL: 39" BROAD: 10'4" POSITIVES — Great size…

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Xavier Legette NFL Draft 2024: Scouting Report for South Carolina WR

HEIGHT: 6'3" WEIGHT: 227 HAND: ARM: WINGSPAN: 40-YARD DASH: 3-CONE: SHUTTLE: VERTICAL: BROAD: POSITIVES — Great size and build for the position. Tall,…

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[HairZach]

Interesting read...some things worth considering for sure.

He says Jr won't be like his dad, but Jr is a much better prospect than his Daddy was.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

First he says, 'Keep in mind, I’m not doing this for clicks.'
And then he has other articles like:
Cameron Ward Higher NFL Ceiling Than Caleb Williams
QB Drake Maye: Bottom-Tier NFL Starter

He is doing it for clicks.

Exactly!!
I didn’t click but if he’s comparing this years Marvin to last year’s, he’s a clown. Marvin with Stroud was out of this world great.

Marvin was great this year with less than ideal QB play. Thats the sign of a great WR. Look at Fitz with all the dreck he had at QB. Still elite.

 

[Dan H]

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[Chris_Sanders]

I don't know much about Nabers, but this article from a scout gave me some pause, especially the part about 50/50 balls.

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"For every ‘wow’ play Nabers produces when he blows the doors off a secondary, there are a couple of passes thrown his way when he lacks concentration and his route running looks undisciplined.


Nabers loses focus and/or interest at times. Occasionally, he’s not in the right spot or he’ll drop one he shouldn’t have."

Drop facts​

I want to make this clear, Nabers isn’t losing focus to the point he’s drop-happy because he’s not, it’s more or less his traits aren’t consistently matching the outcome.

In terms of Nabers’ catch rate:
2021: 28 receptions on 46 targets (60.9%)
2022: 72 receptions on 99 targets (72.8%)
2023: 89 receptions on 130 targets (68.4%)

Nabers three-year college career catch rate average = 67.3%

A dynamic receiver who stretches the field, but shows lapses of intensity and focus at times. Muscular frame and long arms. Lines up outside, but may factor more from the slot. Burst release. Works all three route levels (short, intermediate, and deep). Explodes into secondaries. Can make crisp breakpoints. Uses frame to box out corners. Excels at curl and stop-and-go deep routes where he can sell the curl and the intermediate dagger route. Knack for exploiting secondaries. Works back to the quarterback when he’s in trouble. Inconsistent on 50-50 balls. Routes can get undisciplined at times. Can get outmuscled. Decent blocker.

Sounds like Diggs

 

[cardncubfan]

If you don't like that one, your not going to like this one:


While the rest of the free world is busy kissing Ohio State receiver Marvin Harrison Jr.’s helmet, I am here to shed some light on the mainstream narrative. I am going to dare to write something different than the choir.

Keep in mind, I’m not doing this for clicks. My end game is to get back into the NFL.

Is Harrison talented?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a first-round talent?

Yes, he is.

Is Harrison a top-5 value?

No, he’s not.

Why not?

Game film.

Marvin Harrison Jr. Doesn't Like To Go Out of His Way

Watch Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. in eight games embedded into this article.

firstroundmock.com

You just have to have faith that MO & company make the right decision in the draft. Problem is we won't know for a few years if he made the right decision on a player or not. I'm sure some will poo poo the pick right away but it won't mean they are correct.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I don't know much about Nabers, but this article from a scout gave me some pause, especially the part about 50/50 balls.

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"For every ‘wow’ play Nabers produces when he blows the doors off a secondary, there are a couple of passes thrown his way when he lacks concentration and his route running looks undisciplined.


Nabers loses focus and/or interest at times. Occasionally, he’s not in the right spot or he’ll drop one he shouldn’t have."

Drop facts​

I want to make this clear, Nabers isn’t losing focus to the point he’s drop-happy because he’s not, it’s more or less his traits aren’t consistently matching the outcome.

In terms of Nabers’ catch rate:
2021: 28 receptions on 46 targets (60.9%)
2022: 72 receptions on 99 targets (72.8%)
2023: 89 receptions on 130 targets (68.4%)

Nabers three-year college career catch rate average = 67.3%

A dynamic receiver who stretches the field, but shows lapses of intensity and focus at times. Muscular frame and long arms. Lines up outside, but may factor more from the slot. Burst release. Works all three route levels (short, intermediate, and deep). Explodes into secondaries. Can make crisp breakpoints. Uses frame to box out corners. Excels at curl and stop-and-go deep routes where he can sell the curl and the intermediate dagger route. Knack for exploiting secondaries. Works back to the quarterback when he’s in trouble. Inconsistent on 50-50 balls. Routes can get undisciplined at times. Can get outmuscled. Decent blocker.

I want Odunze if we don't get Harrison or Alt.

Odunze caught 28/30 50/50 balls. That's elite.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I want Odunze if we don't get Harrison or Alt.

Odunze caught 28/30 50/50 balls. That's elite.

Could also likely trade down to the 8-10 range as well and acquire additional picks.

 

[DVontel]

Could also likely trade down to the 8-10 range as well and acquire additional picks.

Doubt Odunze will be there at 8-10 range.

 

[DVontel]

I also agree with @Stout.

We already have a bunch of picks and there's blue chip talents like Nabers and Alt(if MHJ is gone) staring right at us in the face, lets not play with fire and potentially miss out on them two + Odunze.

What do we plan to do next year with those picks? Just trade back again as well in a never-ending cycle?