Thunder @ Suns 03-30-11

[BC867]

Siler has never had the playing time and nurturing Lopez has received. I don't know how Siler can play better without the minutes. Gentry should baptize him under fire down the stretch to see what he can do. We know what Lopez can't do.

Get a starting level SG and a decent backup big this offseason and it will be a different story

Picture this for a minute. Imagine if Gentry had the foresight to move Gortat to starting Center early on, give Siler a try at backup Center and try Lopez at backup Power Forward to see if he could do better, just as Frye, without the pressure of being an overwhelmed starting Center.

With everyone disappointed at Lopez and Warrick for most of the season, what did we have to lose. It just might have given us a pretty good 4-man anchor. It would have been worth a try. I think it would have produced much better results.

 

[Evil Ash]

Picture this for a minute. Imagine if Gentry had the foresight to move Gortat to starting Center early on, give Siler a try at backup Center and try Lopez at backup Power Forward to see if he could do better, just as Frye, without the pressure of being an overwhelmed starting Center.

With everyone disappointed at Lopez and Warrick for most of the season, what did we have to lose. It just might have given us a pretty good 4-man anchor. It would have been worth a try. I think it would have produced much better results.

That lineup would get destroyed as it would be ridiculously slow. Come on BC, you're smarter than this

 

[Cheesebeef]

Prefferably in a big market. Seriously I give OKC no shot of winning a title as long as Stern is involved.

huh? in the last ten years, four titles were won by SA and Detroit... TERRIBLE markets.

 

[Cheesewater]

Picture this for a minute. Imagine if Gentry had the foresight to move Gortat to starting Center early on, give Siler a try at backup Center and try Lopez at backup Power Forward to see if he could do better, just as Frye, without the pressure of being an overwhelmed starting Center.

With everyone disappointed at Lopez and Warrick for most of the season, what did we have to lose. It just might have given us a pretty good 4-man anchor. It would have been worth a try. I think it would have produced much better results.

What? Lopez can't even play center adequately and you want him to play PF?

 

[Cheesewater]

huh? in the last ten years, four titles were won by SA and Detroit... TERRIBLE markets.

Exactly. Market size isn't as important as people think it is.

 

[Cheesebeef]

What? Lopez can't even play center adequately and you want him to play PF?

we're at complete odds as to what to do with Nash, but we're on the same page here.

Lopez as a 4 would get BEYOND abused.

 

[AfroSuns]

Picture this for a minute. Imagine if Gentry had the foresight to move Gortat to starting Center early on, give Siler a try at backup Center and try Lopez at backup Power Forward to see if he could do better, just as Frye, without the pressure of being an overwhelmed starting Center.

With everyone disappointed at Lopez and Warrick for most of the season, what did we have to lose. It just might have given us a pretty good 4-man anchor. It would have been worth a try. I think it would have produced much better results.

This is a lot of assumption, none of us are part of the Suns practice, i like Siler and i think if he lost some more weight and work on his game this off-season, he will be a serviceable big man off the bench, but right now he is no way better than Lopez, yea and Lopez is terrible..

 

[BC867]

What? Lopez can't even play center adequately and you want him to play PF?

So there was love for Warrick at backup Power Forward all season?

Hey, y'know I'll come up with any idea if it would have meant keeping Lopez out of the Center spot.

The proof to that is in the pudding. Is Gentry playing Lopez at all in the 2nd half? I think tonight it may have been two minutes when Gortat had 4 fouls.

Yesterday it was none.

Someone's got to rest the starters.

 

[Mainstreet]

What? Lopez can't even play center adequately and you want him to play PF?

No, Lopez can Play SF. BC867 likes his team big.

 

[BC867]

No, Lopez can Play SF. BC867 likes his team big.

LOL. At the 4 and 5 - yup!

 

[Evil Ash]

huh? in the last ten years, four titles were won by SA and Detroit... TERRIBLE markets.

Eh I'm just frustrated. Having to hear the crap about how he's trying to improve the league and then seeing only moves that help bigger markets and two teams are moving to the 2 largest markets (southern cal and NY).

SA has gotten lucky being able to build through the draft which is insanely difficult to do in this league anymore

 

[Mainstreet]

Eh I'm just frustrated. Having to hear the crap about how he's trying to improve the league and then seeing only moves that help bigger markets and two teams are moving to the 2 largest markets (southern cal and NY).

SA has gotten lucky being able to build through the draft which is insanely difficult to do in this league anymore

SA was indeed lucky to be able to have two #1 overall picks to select David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

 

[Evil Ash]

Exactly. Market size isn't as important as people think it is.

It is and it isn't. The smaller market teams have to build almost entirely through the draft because they have to drastically overpay to get players to get there. So if you have great scouts its not a big problem. Its still a problem though

The larger markets can pretty much be awful at drafting and still get good players (like the Super teams that players are trying to build now) because they are larger markets an they can make up in the difference in marketing money.

The league is facing a major dilemma in this future CBA and I'm not sure Stern is the guy that can fix it.

Wow we have serioulsy gone way offtopic. I guess we should expect that in a game where Siler was our best big

 

[Mainstreet]

The league is facing a major dilemma in this future CBA and I'm not sure Stern is the guy that can fix it.

IMO, Stern's only interest is the league and the owners making more money. I think he just wants to break the player's union which cannot stand in his way for very long.

 

[BC867]

Eh I'm just frustrated. Having to hear the crap about how he's trying to improve the league and then seeing only moves that help bigger markets and two teams are moving to the 2 largest markets (southern cal and NY).

For the record, northern New Jersey and Brooklyn are both part of the NYC metropolitan area. The Nets are already in that market.

Both the NY Giants and NY Jets play their football in the Meadowlands in Secaucus, NJ.

As far as southern Cal, the Clips had moved from San Diego and now the Kings/Royals down from Sacramento. Meanwhile, neither the L.A. nor Orange County areas have an NFL team.

And I believe the Clippers play rent-free in the Staples Center.

Is there sense to any of what is going on in LaLa Land?

 

[Proteus]

So is Stern the longest serving commisioner in any of the major sports leagues in North America?

 

[Evil Ash]

IMO, Stern's only interest is the league and the owners making more money.

Yup and thats the problem. He doesn't care about competitive balance and he has made profits the ONLY priority. I can understand it from a business aspect to a point but if other problems in this league aren't fixed, they can see a lot of fans drop out and the profit margin disappears in a hurry.

Its a fine line and I don't think Stern sees it.

I think he just wants to break the player's union which cannot stand in his way for very long.

"Sure we make a lot of money but we spend a lot too" - Patrick Ewing during the last lockout.

It probably won't take much to break them. Its just a matter if he uses that to his advantage to help the league as a whole or that of a few teams/markets.

 

[Mainstreet]

Except for a couple of games with Minnesota the Suns have a real shot at losing their remaining games.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/phoenix-suns-schedule-2010-11.html

 

[Mainstreet]

It probably won't take much to break them. Its just a matter if he uses that to his advantage to help the league as a whole or that of a few.

The NFL has made great strides towards parity. I don't think this is Stern's objective.

 

[Evil Ash]

So is Stern the longest serving commisioner in any of the major sports leagues in North America?

Yes by a large margin.

 

[devilalum]

we're at complete odds as to what to do with Nash, but we're on the same page here.

Lopez as a 4 would get BEYOND abused.

Lopez as a towel boy would be beyond abused.

 

[Evil Ash]

The NFL has made great strides towards parity. I don't think this is Stern's objective.

Yup and it could end up biting him in the ass. Thats my point.

 

[Evil Ash]

Except for a couple of games with Minnesota the Suns have a real shot at losing their remaining games.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/phoenix-suns-schedule-2010-11.html

Yeah the rest of the season is likely to be ugly.

 

[mojorizen7]

The NFL has made great strides towards parity. I don't think this is Stern's objective.

If it is Sterns objective he's failed miderably.
The NBA is a joke in terms of parity. Its really quite hilarious....once you seperate yourself from your alliegance,step back and take a hard look at it i mean.

 

[sunsfan88]

Except for a couple of games with Minnesota the Suns have a real shot at losing their remaining games.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/phoenix-suns-schedule-2010-11.html

If the Suns take advantage of the situation, then they could possibly end up with a top 10 pick.