Trade Bledsoe instead of Knight?

Trade Bledsoe instead of Knight?


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There is an article floating the idea of trading Bled over Brandon. Someone else can put the link...but I was thinking that might not be a bad idea. Bledsoe has more trade value right now. Plus trading Bled would help us tank and get us a higher pick in a PG loaded draft. Keeping Knight will give the Sun's the chance to bring up his value some instead of trading him when his stock is too low. Plus Brandon is younger with still some upside.
 

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Yeah, I've talked about the idea a few times. It makes more sense to trade Bledsoe for a few reasons.

One, he should bring a much better return. Two, we really can't afford to be involved with his next contract and if we wait we'll likely have to discount him. Three, he adds wins in a season where we simply don't need those wins. And lastly, it's the only possible way to get Knight into a role that might, MIGHT, raise his value to something close to what we paid for him.
 
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I was reading recently too that LeBron is demanding the Cavs get a PG somehow. I wonder what they would give for his buddy Bledsoe? That would be a dream come true for that team but would it be for us?

Shumbert and a draft pick maybe for Bled?
 
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I think it would be a good idea to get the best pg we can in this draft to grow with our nucleus. Bledsoe is almost too old to be a part of our long term future.
 

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I was reading recently too that LeBron is demanding the Cavs get a PG somehow. I wonder what they would give for his buddy Bledsoe? That would be a dream come true for that team but would it be for us?

Shumbert and a draft pick maybe for Bled?

Are you insane?
 

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Shumpert could probably be had for Tucker and any 1st from Cleveland has the value of a 2nd round pick, if not worse because it'll be in the 25-30 range and guaranteed money.
 

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I'm open for trading them both. If we move Bledsoe and don't get a PG back we're forced to see Knight hero ball for a longer period of time. Maybe being the only experienced PG and clear starter boosts his confidence to a new level and brings his play up to All Star standards. Dreaming is free. Then trade him in the summer and draft a top pure PG.
 
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By the time the Suns are good Bledsoe will be 30 and commanding a Mike Conley contract. I'd be open to moving him for the right deal.
 

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Bledsoe is not too old. You can't build a team with all players of a similar age. We are tanking anyway. We take the BPA in the draft, point guard or no, and figure it out from there. Knight can be moved.

If you are going to trade Bledsoe, you need to keep this chart in mind.

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I'd keep Bledsoe and trade Knight. The Suns cannot stay in a perpetual state of rebuilding if they want to attract a quality free agent. Bledsoe is on a good contract for the next two seasons.
 

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Trading Bledsoe is a HUGE, HUGE gamble... as we would leave this current team without a legit PG - which, if we don't want to win another game this season, makes sense I guess. But the gamble is betting, AGAIN, on finding a legit PG in the draft. If we swing and miss with regard to the draft, we will be set back even further and for longer...
I dunno... I think I'm still in the camp for trading both Chandler and Knight... I know they wouldn't garner as much in return as Bledsoe, but there is a big part of me that still wants to see Bled leading this team into the post season...
 

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If a good offer comes up you trade either of them. Neither one is so good they are untouchable
 

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Bledsoe is not too old. You can't build a team with all players of a similar age. We are tanking anyway. We take the BPA in the draft, point guard or no, and figure it out from there. Knight can be moved.

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I'm not opposed to a Bledsoe trade but I am hesitant to make moves designed to increase Knight's potential trade value. First of all you're relying on opposing GMs to have short memories, and there's no way featuring Knight works in any kind of a plan unless the plan is to keep him (or you think he can be moved after only a short time).
 

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I'm not opposed to a Bledsoe trade but I am hesitant to make moves designed to increase Knight's potential trade value. First of all you're relying on opposing GMs to have short memories, and there's no way featuring Knight works in any kind of a plan unless the plan is to keep him (or you think he can be moved after only a short time).
Actually I think the Suns are hoping GMs remember last year when Knight put up desent numbers.

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I'm not opposed to a Bledsoe trade but I am hesitant to make moves designed to increase Knight's potential trade value. First of all you're relying on opposing GMs to have short memories, and there's no way featuring Knight works in any kind of a plan unless the plan is to keep him (or you think he can be moved after only a short time).

Not really, the other GMs already know what's been going on. We've never used him in the role he wants to be in, the one he's used to, the one he believes he should play. And this year he's been coming into games with the mind-set that he's there to score whether he's nominally the 1 or the 2 and that just hasn't worked.

Trading Bledsoe would give us a chance to move Knight into the starting point guard role, allowing him the chance to rebuild his confidence and his reputation. But I'll admit, this part of the justification is the least important to me. I see it as a last ditch effort to restore his value and if it fails (and it may well fail), we still win because it moves us into a better draft spot.
 

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Option 4. Trade both Bledsoe and Knight . . . in separate deals. Bury the tweeter Guard concept once and for all. And bring a facilitator to the team. One who can make the rest of the team better. A "coach on the court".

I'm wondering why there wasn't that Option 4 in the poll.
 

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Shumpert could probably be had for Tucker and any 1st from Cleveland has the value of a 2nd round pick, if not worse because it'll be in the 25-30 range and guaranteed money.
You trade for 2 first round picks in years 2021 and 2023. Lebron will either be retired or a shadow of himself. And do you think Cleveland attracts FA studs with Lebron gone? Nope. Back to being a wasteland. And those become high lottery picks for us.
 

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I wait until end of the season, where you know where everyone is picking so you don't have to do the pick protection dance.

Trade with one of the teams in the top 8 to 10 for bledsoe, and you have 2 top ten picks in a big time draft.
 

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Thought this argument was settled at the beginning of the season.

Knight needs to be traded the moment someone has interest. I don't care if Bledsoe brings back a bigger haul, he's the best player on the team and part of the solution moving forward.
 

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I wait until end of the season, where you know where everyone is picking so you don't have to do the pick protection dance.

Trade with one of the teams in the top 8 to 10 for bledsoe, and you have 2 top ten picks in a big time draft.

And that's the issue AFAIC. Assuming we get rid of Knight instead of Bledsoe, I don't think this team will finish in the bottom 10. I really think we have at least 6 more wins right now if Brandon had never stepped on the court. If we stay healthy and move Knight, I think we finish 9th or 10th in the West at worst.
 
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Thought this argument was settled at the beginning of the season.

Knight needs to be traded the moment someone has interest. I don't care if Bledsoe brings back a bigger haul, he's the best player on the team and part of the solution moving forward.

How is he part of the solution moving forward? I agree he's currently our best player but what do we do 2 years from now when Rich Paul demands a max-ish deal for Bledsoe?

I think it would be insanity to risk giving him another long term contract, just like it would have been with Amare. I don't know how much value he has now but I don't see him having more when his contract comes around. There will be too many teams with dollars to spend that can afford to risk a big contract on an injury prone star.

But I agree, Knight needs to be traded the moment someone has interest. I just don't like our chances of finding that trading partner.
 

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