Trade talks & rumors

[devilalum]

The Wolves definitely won that trade as Wiggins looks to be special.

Steve's right, pretty much everybody thought Wiggins was a can't miss star but IMO Lebron pushed for Love to win now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Steve's right, pretty much everybody thought Wiggins was a can't miss star but IMO Lebron pushed for Love to win now.

It will be interesting if Wiggins turns out to have a Kobe Bryant type career.

 

[sunsfan88]

Wiggins reminds me a lot of Paul George. He just had to get stronger.

If Wiggins grows more height (certainly possible) then we can start talking about Durant.

 

[elindholm]

It will be interesting if Wiggins turns out to have a Kobe Bryant type career.

I have him as more of a Clyde Drexler type.

 

[Mainstreet]

I have him as more of a Clyde Drexler type.

I was talking in terms of young talent and Kobe just happened to come to mind. I'm sure Drexler is a good comparison as well.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I see him as something between a pre-injury Dan Majerle and Kobe Bryant.

Steve

 

[sunsfan88]

Bucks may be in the market for a PG now...

https://mobile.twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/556617046335950849

IT for Henson/fillers? Henson is an ideal backup PF for the Suns system due to his athleticism and shot blocking/altering ability.

A good read on him:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/john-henson-milwaukee-bucks/

 

[Mainstreet]

Bucks may be in the market for a PG now...

https://mobile.twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/556617046335950849

IT for Henson/fillers? Henson is an ideal backup PF for the Suns system due to his athleticism and shot blocking/altering ability.

A good read on him:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/john-henson-milwaukee-bucks/

Jordon Farmar may be a cheaper candidate. IT would be the better option though or even Ennis.

 

[Rab]

Trading for Love at this point doesn't make much sense to me. I wouldn't give up Bledsoe and Len for him. Even when rumors were hot and heavy during the off-season I wasn't ever thrilled about the possibility of acquiring him. I think he's a really good player but I don't feel he has the impact in a game to make a team that much better.

Sidenote, I am still concerned about long term health of Len. I am more than pleased with his progress and play so far, but I am concerned about his ankles and feet. Can he hold up over the course of long seasons playing heavier minutes? Might be something to consider when trade rumors come up involving Len. Of course I always hope I'm wrong, but foot problems are what eventually took down Yao.

I honestly would like to see the Suns get something for IT. We don't need him and he would have some value. Playing 3 pg' s will only fly so long and it doesn't allow Bledsoe or Goran to really flourish. Bledsoe has more value in terms of rebounding and defense. If IT isn't scoring he doesn't do anything else to contribute.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Trading for Love at this point doesn't make much sense to me. I wouldn't give up Bledsoe and Len for him. Even when rumors were hot and heavy during the off-season I wasn't ever thrilled about the possibility of acquiring him. I think he's a really good player but I don't feel he has the impact in a game to make a team that much better.

Sidenote, I am still concerned about long term health of Len. I am more than pleased with his progress and play so far, but I am concerned about his ankles and feet. Can he hold up over the course of long seasons playing heavier minutes? Might be something to consider when trade rumors come up involving Len. Of course I always hope I'm wrong, but foot problems are what eventually took down Yao.

I honestly would like to see the Suns get something for IT. We don't need him and he would have some value. Playing 3 pg' s will only fly so long and it doesn't allow Bledsoe or Goran to really flourish. Bledsoe has more value in terms of rebounding and defense. If IT isn't scoring he doesn't do anything else to contribute.

I think I'd rather keep this group together and make a push for the playoffs. We probably miss out but the run itself has value. And then, I'd look to trade Thomas, the Twins, the Lakers pick, our pick and whatever else it takes to talk the number one pick out of the hands of whichever team gets lucky. Adding Okafor to Bledsoe, Dragic and Len gives us a real chance to build towards a team that can play fast and still excel in the half court game. He's not as flashy as Davis so he might even be acquirable but I just think he's perfect for the NBA.

Steve

 

[Rab]

I think I'd rather keep this group together and make a push for the playoffs. We probably miss out but the run itself has value. And then, I'd look to trade Thomas, the Twins, the Lakers pick, our pick and whatever else it takes to talk the number one pick out of the hands of whichever team gets lucky. Adding Okafor to Bledsoe, Dragic and Len gives us a real chance to build towards a team that can play fast and still excel in the half court game. He's not as flashy as Davis so he might even be acquirable but I just think he's perfect for the NBA.

Steve

I don't disagree with you at all, but if there is one player I would be okay exploring trades with, it would be IT. It'll be extremely tough for the Suns to make the playoffs with the Thunder chasing them. I don't see any team above us falling that far.

The Suns will be really active at the deadline. Whether or not they pull anything off will be another story but they have a lot of options and directions they can go. We'll see.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Still building for long term over short term solutions. We play to win now. We trade to build a champion.

 

[Sunburn]

Steve's right, pretty much everybody thought Wiggins was a can't miss star but IMO Lebron pushed for Love to win now.

Actually, after the Cavs acquired Lebron, they were considered in "win now" mode. Acquiring Love was seen as a better option than waiting for Wiggins to develop.

 

[Ronin]

I don't know how old this news is but....

Bleacher Report NBA ‏@BR_NBA
The Suns are reportedly shopping Miles Plumlee http://ble.ac/1GgpwIT

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't know how old this news is but....

Makes sense. With Len's development and the acquisition of Wright, Plumlee's minutes have dried up. If rumors are true, Miles asked for a trade. Perhaps he's worried about his chances of beating out the 150 pound, 7 foot, future superstar Alec Brown? Or maybe he's just been hearing Earl Barron's footsteps? Either way, here's hoping the next stop for Miles gives him a fair chance to shine as either a basketball player or a male model. He played pretty well for us for awhile but I'm not sure he's fully decided just which career to pursue.

Steve

 

[BC867]

... here's hoping the next stop for Miles gives him a fair chance to shine as either a basketball player or a male model. He played pretty well for us for awhile but I'm not sure he's fully decided just which career to pursue.

Steve

LOL. Not on a hair out of place. Lately the camera has been catching him smoothing his hair every trip downcourt . . . or so it seems.

When I was young, I was Distribution manager for a ladies sewing plant. They had a contest for a name for their new monthly newsletter.

One of my people had the winner. Sew It Seams. I was so proud of her. Or is that sew proud of her?

 

[sunsfan88]

The Phoenix Suns are actively shopping big man Miles Plumlee in advance of the Feb. 19 trade deadline, according to league sources.

Dwindling playing time has led the Suns to put Miles Plumlee on the market.

Sources told ESPN.com ‎that the Suns are working in conjunction with Plumlee's agent, Mark Bartelstein, to try to find a new home for the third-year center, who has seen his playing time steadily dwindle as the season has progressed.

Plumlee is averaging a mere 13.5 minutes per game this month, compared to 23.5 minutes per game in November, and faces even more competition in the Suns' frontcourt rotation now in the wake of Phoenix's recent acquisition of Brandan Wright and the continued progression of Alex Len.

The Suns are believed to be seeking at least one future first-round pick for the 26-year-old, who was selected 26th overall by Indiana in ‎the 2012 draft, one year before brother Mason was selected No. 22 overall by Brooklyn in the 2013 draft.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12190738/phoenix-suns-looking-trade-miles-plumlee

Sounds like him and his agent demanded out.

 

[95pro]

He'd make a good third center. But sounds like he thinks he's starter material.

 

[Mainstreet]

Sounds like him and his agent demanded out.

I wonder if the Celtics might be interested. Ainge has said he has accumulated enough draft picks and wants to start acquiring veteran players. Plumlee is on a very reasonable salary and he is still young.

 

[NoelPHX]

I wonder if the Celtics might be interested. Ainge has said he has accumulated enough draft picks and wants to start acquiring veteran players. Plumlee is on a very reasonable salary and he is still young.

They would probably try to send us that Minnesota Pick back lol.

 

[Mainstreet]

They would probably try to send us that Minnesota Pick back lol.

Chuckle.

 

[Errntknght]

This is folly. We finally have enough bigs that we don't have to use Marcus at PF and we're in a rush to 'fix' it? I can understand Miles being a bit unhappy but, crap, just tell him to play his butt off when he does get out there and win back some minutes. Brandan Wright in not a big minute player and we need him for about 12min per game at PF. Adding 8 minutes at C makes more minutes than he has ever consistently played.

I know Len played 37 minutes once, but I don't see him playing more than 30 regularly which leaves 10 minutes for Plumlee. (I don't think its smart, from a health standpoint, to heap minutes on Len even if he wants to play them.) Heck, he'll be overwhelmed on back-to-backs and there's no room for any injury - we'd be beating the bushes for another Randolph if that happens - when it happens, I should say.

Trading Miles for anything but a comparable (or better) big will rival acquiring Tolliver as the dumb move of the year.

 

[AzStevenCal]

This is folly. We finally have enough bigs that we don't have to use Marcus at PF and we're in a rush to 'fix' it? I can understand Miles being a bit unhappy but, crap, just tell him to play his butt off when he does get out there and win back some minutes. Brandan Wright in not a big minute player and we need him for about 12min per game at PF. Adding 8 minutes at C makes more minutes than he has ever consistently played.

I know Len played 37 minutes once, but I don't see him playing more than 30 regularly which leaves 10 minutes for Plumlee. (I don't think its smart, from a health standpoint, to heap minutes on Len even if he wants to play them.) Heck, he'll be overwhelmed on back-to-backs and there's no room for any injury - we'd be beating the bushes for another Randolph if that happens - when it happens, I should say.

Trading Miles for anything but a comparable (or better) big will rival acquiring Tolliver as the dumb move of the year.

Plumlee reportedly wants out, it's rarely a good thing to hang onto a player like him if he's dissatisfied. Besides, other than the rare occasion, he's not played all that well in over a year now. We shouldn't have any problem replacing him with someone like Barron. If this leads to more time for Marcus at the 4 well, then it's a problem. But I'm not going to sweat it until it actually happens. I'm pretty sure the front office guys know how horribly Marcus has defended this season, especially at the 4.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns would be better served trying to move a small for a first round pick than Plumlee although that option may not be there now. As other posters have noted, the Suns need more bigs if anything, not less. My thinking is McDonough wants to move Plumee when his value may be his highest before the trade deadline. Somehow, I'd like the Suns to get their hands on young Raptor center, Lucas Nogueira.

 

[sunsfan88]

The Suns would be better served trying to move a small for a first round pick than Plumlee although that option may not be there now. As other posters have noted, the Suns need more bigs if anything, not less. My thinking is McDonough wants to move Plumee when his value may be his highest before the trade deadline. Somehow, I'd like the Suns to get their hands on young Raptor center, Lucas Nogueira.

I think they would give him up if we added Tyler Ennis who they still covet.