Vikings at Cardinals gameday thread 9-19-2021

[HomerPimpson]

Some of you folks crack me up. Yes, we were fortunate at the end. But, give the Vikings their due. They had ZERO turnovers & Cousins wasn’t touched all day. They were in desperation mode & played like it. Murray completed 81% of his passes for 400 yards, threw 3 touchdown, and ran for another. And ran for 30 yards also. The picks almost cost us the game, and he has to clean that up in order to stay in the MVP discussion. I couldn’t fathom how bad this team would be without him.

Kyler is elite.

Kirk Cousins wouldn't even be a starter in our division. Our D made him look elite and he's not even a guy who moves around. So I have concerns on D.

 

[juza76]

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Kyler is elite.

Kirk Cousins wouldn't even be a starter in our division. Our D made him look elite and he's not even a guy who moves around. So I have concerns on D.

I m more concerned about how the defense is prepared for the game, is a problem we saw last year too often
After the 1 quarter and half the defense gave up just 6 points

 

[mjb21aztd]

Kyler the magician just an epic godly gm would have sucked soooooooo hard if that fg went in

No idea how he missed...

 

[Red on White]

Who was the guy taking on our whole special teams unit from his own one?

Want to thank him

 

[Krangodnzr]

he also has two killer turnovers and hasn’t played well in the second.

You are your numbers

 

[Red on White]

Seattle is in OT

And lost.

That's a shame

 

[juza76]

Didn't like Alford at all in this game
Was clearly the weaker part of our secondary today

 

[Buckybird]

Say what you want, but I’m pretty confident the Cards don’t win that game today without K1 at QB. Imo outside of the pick 6 he was outstanding! He’s definitely improved in the leadership & throwing on the run. He’s been dynamic for 2 games now.

Onto Jax

 

[Chopper0080]

Kk made Kyler run out of bounds?

kk blocked?

forced em to use timeout.

KK getting way too much slack for me. Kyler, for as great as he was at points, was reason they were in the game.

Yeah. You are recognizing it as a terrible take.

 

[nashman]

Hopefully Murray learns from this. Better execution needed down the stretch. Otherwise know as rising in the moment. That was separates good from greatness

Not on Murray terrible playcalling I n the second half

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Didn't like Alford at all in this game
Was clearly the weaker part of our secondary today

Really? He had some good tackles...isn't afraid of contact.

 

[Chopper0080]

Not on Murray terrible playcalling I n the second half

It wasn't the play calling. Kyler played terrible the second half. Terrible. He was confused by the defense, missed some easy passes and turned the ball over and made other mental mistakes. If you want to be a top QB in the NFL, you have to be better than that.

 

[juza76]

Really? He had some good tackles...isn't afraid of contact.

Gave too much cushion to his receiver, then he made the tackles but almost every throws on his way were completed passes

 

[nashman]

It wasn't the play calling. Kyler played terrible the second half. Terrible. He was confused by the defense, missed some easy passes and turned the ball over and made other mental mistakes. If you want to be a top QB in the NFL, you have to be better than that.

Couldn’t disagree more but that’s your opinion. 400yrds and 4 TDs he did more than his job. Sometimes defenders make plays it happens. He was even hit in the head on the one pick and the refs didn’t call it. **** happens. The real problem was what plays were called when, the Vikings should have never gotten the ball back with that much time and their TOs! Our last offensive series was beyond ignorant playcalling! Looked totally unprepared to execute basic run the ball and clock offense, instead KK has him taking a deep drop for a pass? Dumb playcalling!

 

[Dr. Jones]

We don't win this one without Kyler.

We absolutely should have lost this game because of Kyler.

Really glad we won!

 

[slanidrac16]

Reminder ...we won.
Had we lost this game we could probably come up with 8 different plays that cost us the game.

Instead, we can talk about the 8 plays that helped us win the game.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Couldn’t disagree more but that’s your opinion. 400yrds and 4 TDs he did more than his job. Sometimes defenders make plays it happens. He was even hit in the head on the one pick and the refs didn’t call it. **** happens. The real problem was what plays were called when, the Vikings should have never gotten the ball back with that much time and their TOs! Our last offensive series was beyond ignorant playcalling! Looked totally unprepared to execute basic run the ball and clock offense, instead KK has him taking a deep drop for a pass? Dumb playcalling!

His two interceptions were egregious. And yes it was a face mask on one, but that had zero impact on the decision and the pass as I’m pretty sure it was outta his hand at that point.

we don’t win without him for sure - but perfect he wasn’t.

 

[Chopper0080]

Couldn’t disagree more but that’s your opinion. 400yrds and 4 TDs he did more than his job. Sometimes defenders make plays it happens. He was even hit in the head on the one pick and the refs didn’t call it. **** happens. The real problem was what plays were called when, the Vikings should have never gotten the ball back with that much time and their TOs! Our last offensive series was beyond ignorant playcalling! Looked totally unprepared to execute basic run the ball and clock offense, instead KK has him taking a deep drop for a pass? Dumb playcalling!

Kliff didn't make him keep the ball and then run out of bounds to stop the clock. Kliff did not make him miss Chase out of the backfield for an easy underneath completion leading to him holding the ball and taking a sack. Those are on the QB and have nothing to do with play calling. Kliff didn't flub the RPO and then force Kyler to throw the ball cause a lineman down field penalty.

Like most are saying, Kyler made some great plays, mostly in the first half which kept us in the game. That said, he had some really terrible plays that almost gave it away. Far less to do with playcalling than you are asserting.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Reminder ...we won.
Had we lost this game we could probably come up with 8 different plays that cost us the game.

Instead, we can talk about the 8 plays that helped us win the game.

My favorite is the moore long td i lost my voice on that 1!!! Was soooo like t hill

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’d venture to guess that the odds greatly favored us losing in that situation. We didn’t stop them when necessary, they messed up. I don’t consider that earned as much as a gift. Yes we had to be in position to benefit from the gift, but we didn’t so much win due to our effort.

Dude... you really are campaigning for the position of saltiest poster on the board.

 

[slanidrac16]

My favorite is the moore long td i lost my voice on that 1!!! Was soooo like t hill

Add Moore dodging some defenders and getting out of bounds with 1 second left allowing Prater to kick a 62 yard fg.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Today was great. We got a W AND hopefully a reality check, especially going into the ULTIMATE trap game on the road against the worst team in the league next week.

 

[Chopper0080]

Today was great. We got a W AND hopefully a reality check, especially going into the ULTIMATE trap game on the road against the worst team in the league next week.

It is like speeding and getting off with a warning. Always better to learn these lessons AND get the win.

 

[TRW]

Watching Lamar I am sooooo glad we have KM.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

It is like speeding and getting off with a warning. Always better to learn these lessons AND get the win.

This

Hopefully we do learn from this game