Way-too-early Monti Ossenfort Performance Review

[TheCardFan]

Could've had both. Now do Jonathan Ledbetter.

You want to pay a guy $15M for the same production as a guy making $1M?

The point is that was a smart GM decision.

But since you asked for it...

Ledbetter - 33 tackles and 1.5 sacks for $870K

Zach Allen 38 tackles and 3 sacks for $15M

 

[kerouac9]

You want to pay a guy $15M for the same production as a guy making $1M?

The point is that was a smart GM decision.

But since you asked for it...

Ledbetter - 33 tackles and 1.5 sacks for $870K

Zach Allen 38 tackles and 3 sacks for $15M

How many snaps tho?

I get the production of both guys, because I'm playing 2-3 IDL at once. It makes sense to evaluate the resources dedicated to the whole room.

Also, I don't know where you're getting $15 million from. He has a $6 million cap number in 2023. Probably worth observing that the Broncos are allowing an average of 16.75 ppg over their last four.

 

[TheCardFan]

Also, I don't know where you're getting $15 million from. He has a $6 million cap number in 2023.

AAV

Signed a 3 year/45M deal.

 

[CardNots]

How are we feeling about this prediction?

I was at 2-15. I’m feeling slightly uneasy

 

[MadCardDisease]

How are we feeling about this prediction?

I still think 3 wins is probable but if the Cardinals can stay healthy 5 would be possible.

The Cardinals really need Conner to stay healthy. Without him at RB the offense doesn't look the same. Also I'm concerned about the the health of the Cardinals OL. It's starting to get a little dinged up.

I still have concerns with Depth all across the defensive side of the ball.

I initially thought the Texans would be one of the best chances for the Cardinals to get a win this season. However that team is playing 100 times better than I expected. The Rams, Bears and Steelers look to be the best shot of sneaking out a couple more wins. So yeah I would say 3-5 wins this season still looks possible. So the average of that would put me right at 4 wins. So I guess I would upgrade my win total for the Cardinals to 4 wins this season.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

With Kyler back, I see no less than 5 wins total, but we'll see!

 

[Cheesebeef]

You want to pay a guy $15M for the same production as a guy making $1M?

The point is that was a smart GM decision.

But since you asked for it...

Ledbetter - 33 tackles and 1.5 sacks for $870K

Zach Allen 38 tackles and 3 sacks for $15M

Is there a reason you left out that Allen also has 6 TFL, 1 FF and 13 QB hits v. Ledbetter’s 1 TFL, 0 FF and 2 QB hits?

Those guys aren’t even CLOSE to the same level of production.

 

[TheCardFan]

Is there a reason you left out that Allen also has 6 TFL, 1 FF and 13 QB hits v. Ledbetter’s 1 TFL, 0 FF and 2 QB hits?

Those guys aren’t even CLOSE to the same level of production.

Nope - just lazy.

And - that wasn't my original point. K9 requested Ledbetter.

My point was Stills vs Allen. No argument there?

 

[MadCardDisease]

With Kyler back, I see no less than 5 wins total, but we'll see!

Kyler is definitely the wild card. He does seem to elevate his teammates which is what you look for in a franchise QB.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nope - just lazy.

And - that wasn't my original point. K9 requested Ledbetter.

My point was Stills vs Allen. No argument there?

His point is why not both? Which we could ABSOLUTELY afford. And I agree. Allen is very good, home grown player and would have helped the D-line from being amongst the worst in the league and a good building block for the future.

 

[TheCardFan]

His point is why not both? Which we could ABSOLUTELY afford. And I agree. Allen is very good, home grown player and would have helped the D-line from being amongst the worst in the league and a good building block for the future.

The point is Allen's production is replaceable at $1M vs $15M.

Why would you pay that for same production? I don't want both.

Allen is easily replaceable. Facts (with a 6th rounder).

Also, it sounds like Allen didn't want to be here.

You do realize that Denver's DVOA is 26 and we are 30. They have been really bad as well.

 

[kerouac9]

You do realize that Denver's DVOA is 26 and we are 30. They have been really bad as well.

Hey hey hey. Denver's 32nd in DVOA, and we're 31st.

They're also MUCH worse than us. We're closer to the 27th-ranked Chargers than we are to Denver.

I'm not a subscriber, so I can't see their deeper breakdown in Defensive DVOA, but I wonder if they're rolling number is better. That defense stunk in the first month of the season, but the last four games they've allowed fewer than 22 points.

Atlanta scores 18.9 ppg -- we allowed 23
Cleveland scores 23.8 ppg -- we allowed 27
Baltimore scores 27.0 ppg -- we allowed 31
Seattle scores 22.2 ppg -- we allowed 20

 

[Garthshort]

Don't know if it hurts or helps the argument, but the defense is impacted by the offense. For example:
1. Short fields.
2. Time of Possession.
3. Probably stuff I can't think of.

 

[Yuma]

According to Burns and Gambo, the Cards had three of the top ten rookies based on last weeks performances. That didn't even include, Paris Johnson, who we know will be good. This will probably be the best rookie class the Cards have drafted in a while. Kinda makes you want to see what the next draft will be like.

 

[Arz101]

They are a 2-8 team.

 

[Krangodnzr]

His point is why not both? Which we could ABSOLUTELY afford. And I agree. Allen is very good, home grown player and would have helped the D-line from being amongst the worst in the league and a good building block for the future.

Man I have been one of Allen's biggest supporters, but to describe him as "very good" is a bit nutty.

He's paid to be very good, but he is merely a pretty good player, not nearly elite enough.

And its been discussed ad naseum how the Cardinals saved money just in case they had to move Murray. Signing Allen just to cut him next year is silly.

 

[Hoodhero]

They are a 2-8 team.

That's 2 more wins than all the experts predicted before the season lol

 

[schutd]

Today, I learned that minds are impossible to change, but those minds love saying the same thing over and over.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Today, I learned that minds are impossible to change, but those minds love saying the same thing over and over.

Also schutd, that some minds think that if they type the same thing 100 times that makes it true.

 

[Jim Otis]

They are a 2-8 team.

Yes , but my thoughts are , without Kyler we would be a 1-9 team !

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Garthshort]

They are a 2-8 team.

And I could argue that with our starting QB, we are a 1-0 team. And while we are both just trying to make a point, we won't know until the season plays out.

 

[Stout]

And I could argue that with our starting QB, we are a 1-0 team. And while we are both just trying to make a point, we won't know until the season plays out.

The team does stink, but Kyler did look good last season. Dare I say I have some hope for the future?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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We are so due a break on the IDL (thinking all they way back to the likes of Wendel Bryant).

Please god let Dante Stills be the draft steal of 2023.

 

[Dback Jon]

Yes , but my thoughts are , without Kyler we would be a 1-9 team !

With Kyler all season we’d be 4-5 at the worst. Likely 5-4