What one player would you add?

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The Suns got destroyed on the boards, 60-42. They don't have the bodies to battle the Kings to a rebounding draw, but they have to do better than that. It's very difficult to win if you're collecting only 41% of all possible rebounds.
 

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I know I'm going to get dumped on but just to put it out there:

Miles Plumlee: 6.5 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 1.2 bpg 13.73 PER
Markeiff Morris: 17.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.8 bpg 22.38 PER

Roy Hibbert: 14 ppg, 9 rpg, 4.2 bpg 22.01 PER
Greg Monroe: 17ppg, 12 rpg, 0 bpg 28.71 PER

I was originally for signing Monroe, posters set me straight pointing out that he played no defense and was very limited range wise. My problem is why can Morris get rebounds? What starting PF averages 6.5 rpg?

Miles Plumlee looks like a flash in the pan player, looked to be oozing with potential but he has really fallen down to Earth. Len is suppose to be the big man of the future and he really looks like he can hold his own on the defensive end.

I bring up Hibbert because IND was seriously offering him for Dragic who isn't looking like a 3rd Team All-NBA player with a PER of 12.66. PHX is getting BEAT up in the post, they got lucky with Z-Bo & Gasol having sub par games for MEM but Conley lit them up and MEM won anyway. This team desperately needs better defenders. I know everyone is saying we need an offensive closer but really defensive stoppers would help this team right now.

I concede that Hibbert & Monroe would really slow this team down but the fast pace PHX thrives in doesn't work against rugged teams like MEM, CHI and other teams that slow down the tempo and their style has them at .500 right now. I do not see this team making the playoffs unless some moves are made or top teams in the West lose star players for long periods of time.

I guess you are talking about next season as both players (Hibbert has a player option) and Monroe can be FAs. Although it's early, it's looking like a bad idea (chemistry wise) for the Suns to keep all three of their PGs that are in the rotation. IMO, it's more about the Suns getting value for one of these PGs. I'm not opposed to the Suns improving their frontline with one of the players you mention or otherwise.
 

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I guess you are talking about next season as both players (Hibbert has a player option) and Monroe can be FAs. Although it's early, it's looking like a bad idea (chemistry wise) for the Suns to keep all three of their PGs that are in the rotation. IMO, it's more about the Suns getting value for one of these PGs. I'm not opposed to the Suns improving their frontline with one of the players you mention or otherwise.

I was actually thinking about these guys being on the team now but obviously its too late, maybe IND would still do the deal for Dragic as they still need a PG.

But yeah, next year would be cool but that would require Hibbert to decline his option and want to play here which isn't a guarantee to happen. Monroe is an UFA next year so they may not get him as teams will make offers knowing they won't have to worry about DET matching.
 

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Dante is significantly worse than Markieff at rebounding (and scoring and assists). Not what we need, IMO.
 

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Mason Plumlee looked untouchable awhile back but he now appears to be the Nets third string PF behind Mirza Teletovic. He doesn't seem to be playing well of late. He looks to be going backwards. I don't know what the Suns could offer the Nets or even how the Suns would use him (with Markieff playing well) but the time to gather quality players is when they are on a down swing or do not fit. Besides the Suns need another set of brothers.
 

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Mason Plumlee looked untouchable awhile back but he now appears to be the Nets third string PF behind Mirza Teletovic. He doesn't seem to be playing well of late. He looks to be going backwards. I don't know what the Suns could offer the Nets or even how the Suns would use him (with Markieff playing well) but the time to gather quality players is when they are on a down swing or do not fit. Besides the Suns need another set of brothers.
I was going to respond seriously about adding another mediocre big man to the mix.

Then I read your last sentence, chuckled, and posted this. :)
 

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I was going to respond seriously about adding another mediocre big man to the mix.

Then I read your last sentence, chuckled, and posted this. :)

Actually it was half truth and half a joke. I think Mason Plumlee can be a very good PF that has gotten lost in the shuffle with the Nets. I don't think the Suns can do much better in the draft especially with a mediocre first round draft pick. So, I'd like to have him but I don't know how Hornacek could give him the minutes he deserves.

I couldn't help but throw the brother part into the mix. :D
 

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Actually it was half truth and half a joke. I think Mason Plumlee can be a very good PF that has gotten lost in the shuffle with the Nets. I don't think the Suns can do much better in the draft especially with a mediocre first round draft pick. So, I'd like to have him but I don't know how Hornacek could give him the minutes he deserves.

I couldn't help but throw the brother part into the mix. :D

Do you think the Suns could trade Miles and Minnesota pick straight up for Mason?

Feels weird to trade a brother for a brother but hey, Memphis and LAL did it and I don't think either team regrets it. Though Gasol brothers are probably a tad bit more talented than the Plumlee brothers ;)
 

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Do you think the Suns could trade Miles and Minnesota pick straight up for Mason?

Feels weird to trade a brother for a brother but hey, Memphis and LAL did it and I don't think either team regrets it. Though Gasol brothers are probably a tad bit more talented than the Plumlee brothers ;)

I don't see the Nets doing that deal. The Minnesota pick has little value and the difference between Miles & Mason is definitely more than that pick is worth. They saw value in him and will probably keep him as insurance due to Brook's brittleness and KG's age.
 
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I am not so sure a trade is the best idea right now. The best two additions to this team might already be on the roster in an improving Len and TJ Warren who has star potential.

Honestly, it would be pretty satisfying to see this team build from within, and it would be pretty horrifying to see one of our young players explode for another team.
 

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Do you think the Suns could trade Miles and Minnesota pick straight up for Mason?

Feels weird to trade a brother for a brother but hey, Memphis and LAL did it and I don't think either team regrets it. Though Gasol brothers are probably a tad bit more talented than the Plumlee brothers ;)

I think it would take more because the Minnesota first round pick is looking like it will turn into two second round picks. Also I don't think swapping brothers is the way to go and the Nets would want more than Plumlee. Just what I do not know. Maybe the Suns first round pick.

I have an idea, let's give them Tolliver and the Suns first round pick for Mason. :)
 

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Do you think the Suns could trade Miles and Minnesota pick straight up for Mason?

Feels weird to trade a brother for a brother but hey, Memphis and LAL did it and I don't think either team regrets it. Though Gasol brothers are probably a tad bit more talented than the Plumlee brothers ;)

Its way to early to be thinking about trading anybody. Let the season play out for a while until the players get used to each other. The lack of floor spacing might have something to do with certain players lack of production. While Frye was a one trick pony, his presence on the floor did create floor spacing for others to operate last season. Until they figure out who will be the one to re-create this spacing, expect some to struggle for a time.
Plumdog is struggling. Its almost as though he was given bad advice to change his power game into becoming a finesse player. Shades of Frye? Could be bad mentoring? Its up to the BIGS coaches to tailor his inside game to what suits Plumlee and thats a power center.
 

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I think it's too early as well. However, this season so far is going the way I thought it would. I don't think many teams are taking the Suns for granted this season and just looking at them as a blip on the schedule....only to be surprised by them.

The Suns are not sneaking up on anybody this season and slightly above .500 ball might be exactly where this team remains all season barring some development of chemistry, everything clicking or a trade down the line. Maybe we should just do nothing and just let our young guys develop.
 
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