What process does Whiz use to decide which QB to start?

[A fan who cares]

This is what I hope he does.

He has a coach's only meeting with himself, the OC, DC, and all the lower coaches from strength coach John Lot to the Qb coach himself.

Whiz opens by saying, "okay, I have an idea on who I want to start, but I want everyone in this room to give their opinion before I do. What you say about Kevin and John may change my mind."

Then each coach will get a chance to voice their opinion on who should start using their expertise. Like for example, Ray Horton could say he likes Skelton more because from a Defensive standpoint he'd rather face a skiddish QB in Kolb.

Some coaches' opinions, like the QB coach, will have more weight on Whiz's ultimate decision.

This is what I hope Whiz does in his decision making process.

What he probably does is this. He wakes up one morning and goes with his 'gut' feeling.

Does anyone know how a coach makes the decision on a starting QB?

 

[Shane]

This is what I hope he does.

He has a coach's only meeting with himself, the OC, DC, and all the lower coaches from strength coach John Lot to the Qb coach himself.

Whiz opens by saying, "okay, I have an idea on who I want to start, but I want everyone in this room to give their opinion before I do. What you say about Kevin and John may change my mind."

Then each coach will get a chance to voice their opinion on who should start using their expertise. Like for example, Ray Horton could say he likes Skelton more because from a Defensive standpoint he'd rather face a skiddish QB in Kolb.

Some coaches' opinions, like the QB coach, will have more weight on Whiz's ultimate decision.

This is what I hope Whiz does in his decision making process.

What he probably does is this. He wakes up one morning and goes with his 'gut' feeling.

Does anyone know how a coach makes the decision on a starting QB?

I can pretty much guarantee you that he is doing this. He is absolutely talking to both Miller and Mcnulty as the very least about it and gets their input.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The coaches meet almost everyday and are in constant contact, I think they have voiced their opinions to Whisenhunt the whole preseason and I'm sure Whisenhunt asks them as well.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I hope he starts Kolb, because it will be his job to lose. And when he does, for whatever reason, then it will be Skeltons the rest of the season. At the end of the season, we will know for sure if we need to draft another or not. I wouldn't mind if we divided up the season, if neither of the 2 can get things done, in 3 parts and give each of our top 3 QBs 5 games each to see if they are worth keeping or if we need to just start over. Who knows, the rookie might just shine by second half of the season.

 

[THESMEL]

HMM

We started Kolb last year and went 8-8 -
Maybe we should start Skelton and let Kolb take over if Skelton faulters.
Mcnulty is new - Chris Miller was fired-
But it is still 50/50 same thesmel grade different skillsets at QB.

Unless we get to a 3 step drop and quicker handoffs- no scratch that.
It doesn't matter who starts - we already paid Kolb and money is the only thing causes clear seperation in value?

We have Seattle- a divisional rival to start the season-against a rookie QB and a gutsy call by Carrol, benching a well paid Flynn. So the fan wants to see skelton rip their lips off.

But... start Kolb and play it close to the vest, safe run first game plan- allowing their rookie QB every oppurtunity to lose the game. Negatives determine way more NFL game outcomes than performance.

I hope he starts Kolb, because it will be his job to lose. And when he does, for whatever reason, then it will be Skeltons the rest of the season. At the end of the season, we will know for sure if we need to draft another or not. I wouldn't mind if we divided up the season, if neither of the 2 can get things done, in 3 parts and give each of our top 3 QBs 5 games each to see if they are worth keeping or if we need to just start over. Who knows, the rookie might just shine by second half of the season.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I'm still trying to figure out why Whis does everything in his power Not to start Skelton, the only QB prior to Lindly drafted by Whis. AND the only one with a winning record. Anderson, hall, Kolb? Geeeesh.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The coaches meet almost everyday and are in constant contact, I think they have voiced their opinions to Whisenhunt the whole preseason and I'm sure Whisenhunt asks them as well.

I wonder if the other coaches and Whis feel strongly for different QB's and this is the real reason it's taking so long to name a starter.

 

[THESMEL]

See leinart

See Leinart for more details, or Edge, or anybody that aint his pet that has a mind of their own with star power. except Fitz and AW.
Whiz has kissed a lot of frogs that never turn into princes. At this point he is a warty ole frog kisser.

I don't mean to be spewing poison, there is a chance it will all work out - Niners aint sneaking up on any one - We can win this division- If we run out 2 young talented back alot.

But i have yet to see that attempted- beyond preseason. WE might rabbit we might?

I'm still trying to figure out why Whis does everything in his power Not to start Skelton, the only QB prior to Lindly drafted by Whis. AND the only one with a winning record. Anderson, hall, Kolb? Geeeesh.

 

[PitchShifter]

I'm curious what process he uses to choose QBs at all. Skelton and Lindley are big-armed QBs with accuracy issues. Antithesis of "the System", surely?
How will the outcome be any different than what we saw with D. Anderson?

(Some quote about the definition of madness...)

 

[thephoenixson28]

Flips a coin

 

[RugbyMuffin]

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[Stout]

I hope he starts Kolb, because it will be his job to lose. And when he does, for whatever reason, then it will be Skeltons the rest of the season. At the end of the season, we will know for sure if we need to draft another or not. I wouldn't mind if we divided up the season, if neither of the 2 can get things done, in 3 parts and give each of our top 3 QBs 5 games each to see if they are worth keeping or if we need to just start over. Who knows, the rookie might just shine by second half of the season.

I don't, because I don't want to go 0-fer until he gets yanked/hurt.

I'm curious what process he uses to choose QBs at all. Skelton and Lindley are big-armed QBs with accuracy issues. Antithesis of "the System", surely?
How will the outcome be any different than what we saw with D. Anderson?

(Some quote about the definition of madness...)

So we should go with the vet who has proven to suck? Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm still trying to figure out why Whis does everything in his power Not to start Skelton, the only QB prior to Lindly drafted by Whis.

That's probably more on Skelton. JS needs to take the job, not just be less terrible than Kolb. I'm sure Whiz would have loved for one of them to seize the oppurtunity but neither have.

 

[Stout]

That's probably more on Skelton. JS needs to take the job, not just be less terrible than Kolb. I'm sure Whiz would have loved for one of them to seize the oppurtunity but neither have.

Yeah, no, this is incorrect. I'd love it if Skelton just took the job outright, but the less terrible of the two should indeed be our QB. It's a crappy situation, sure, but it's the one we have.

 

[JeffGollin]

I have no idea how Wiz will decide, except to expect that his engineering background will come into play.

Reading between the lines of various Wiz statements, my guess is that he will have his staff break down reels and reels of game and practice tape and then "pair up" play footage to compare how each guy executes various plays, against varying defenses in different types of down, distance and game situations.

He might then have all of this charted on an Excel (or similar software) spreadsheet and then sit down with the Millers and McNulty to review and analyze the entire body of work. (They might even review a brief psychological workup of each guy as well).

Will this turn out to be better than doing 2 out of three "once twice three...shoots?" Dunno, probably.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

How about the guy who can improvise the best and get out of trouble the best, for that is what our qb will be doing on nearly every play.

 

[JeffGollin]

How about the guy who can improvise the best and get out of trouble the best, for that is what our qb will be doing on nearly every play.

That was my thinking going into the Tenn game; but sometimes (like last week) the pass blocking is so awful that even mobile supermen like Cam Newton, Michael Vick, Tim Tebow or big guys like Flacco or Rothlisberger...or Skelton will get swarmed over before they can even set up to pass.

What I'm hoping is that we'll correctly make the guy who can best operate behind the semi-functioning OL of Batiste, Colledge, Sendlein, Snyder and Massie our starter.

 

[Mulli]

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[Doc Cardinal]

Rock....papers.....scissors.


Actually it's a brilliant move.



You have 2 guys who equally suck.


If 1 got hurt in the last preseason game it may have turned out to be the guy who sucks the least.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

Eenie meanie miney mo.

Catch a quarterback by the toe.

If he get's a concussion let him go.

Eenie meanie miney mo.

 

[gmabel830]

Mcnulty is new - Chris Miller was fired-

It's worth noting that McNulty is new to the QB coach position with the Cards, but it is his 4th season with the team/under Whisenhunt, and he was previously offensive coordinator/QB coach at Rutgers. So, the fact that he is in his first year as QB coach with the Cards probably doesn't make his opinion any less valuable to Whiz, especially considering that McNulty spends significantly more time with the QB's as their position coach than Whiz possibly can as head coach.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Rock....papers.....scissors.

See my signature below.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Documented proof of the process http://www.newyorkshitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/shitonthewall.jpg

 

[NJCardFan]

Does anyone know how a coach makes the decision on a starting QB?

It wouldn't surprise me if he went to the conclave of the College of Cardinals.

 

[Bobcat]

I have no idea how Wiz will decide, except to expect that his engineering background will come into play.

Reading between the lines of various Wiz statements, my guess is that he will have his staff break down reels and reels of game and practice tape and then "pair up" play footage to compare how each guy executes various plays, against varying defenses in different types of down, distance and game situations.

He might then have all of this charted on an Excel (or similar software) spreadsheet and then sit down with the Millers and McNulty to review and analyze the entire body of work. (They might even review a brief psychological workup of each guy as well).

Will this turn out to be better than doing 2 out of three "once twice three...shoots?" Dunno, probably.

He will wofk it out with a pencil.