What should be the asking price be for Hollywood?(Carolina)

[dreamcastrocks]

While I agree in theory we could
Easily sign someone ourselves this off season that negates the 3rd no?

Exactly. With our cap space, I would expect that we would not be getting many comp picks at all.

 

[Cheesebeef]

While I agree in theory we could
Easily sign someone ourselves this off season that negates the 3rd no?

That’s what I was thinking.

 

[kerouac9]

While I agree in theory we could
Easily sign someone ourselves this off season that negates the 3rd no?

Maybe, but maybe we won’t for any number of reasons. We’ll see.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I’d rather have Hollywood for the rest of the year and collect a third-round comp pick value than a fourth.

I don’t really see how this take is inconsistent.

The Cardinals won't be getting any 2025 comp picks if they spend their cap space.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Maybe, but maybe we won’t for any number of reasons. We’ll see.

I guess the Cardinals could use their almost $70 million on re-signing players or after the initial wave after players no longer count?

I doubt that.

 

[Cardiac]

Maybe, but maybe we won’t for any number of reasons. We’ll see.

Inquiring minds want to know. What other FAs beside Brown do we have that teams will be paying big money for.

What other rules allow us to get a decent FA class and still get a comp pick for Brown.

If Monti has another FA like this past year then we will all be darksiders.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Lowest I'd go is a 2025 third; we have plenty of 2024 third-round picks to play with. I think if offered a second you'd have to jump at the chance. Don't have much use for a fourth round pick.

A third would be where I'd start, nothing less, unless it was a good player and a later pick.

 

[Harry]

Keep him to get a better idea of Murray’s capability.

 

[Cardiac]

The point of the Panthers looking to trade for a #1 caliber WR is so that they can better support and evaluate Bryce Young.

Doesn't the same apply to the Cardinals with Murray this season... especially considering that Brown is his "buddy" with whom he has on-field chemistry as well?

Exactly this.

 

[Proximo]

I would not trade him.

He will resign, and we can afford it. He is an excellent #2 receiver.

 

[Snakester]

Minimum number one.

 

[oaken1]

Hollywood is a UFA at the end of the season -- probably wont get you a 1. Especially when Carolina doesnt have one next year.

odd that winless Carolina is looking to make a trade

They say when you push it back a year the pick loses a round of value.
So trade him for a 2025 first...equivalent to a 2024 2nd.


But I think we plan to keep him.

 

[kerouac9]

I guess the Cardinals could use their almost $70 million on re-signing players or after the initial wave after players no longer count?

I doubt that.

They could trade Kyler and have to eat all of the cap hit. That's the most obvious way this happens.

 

[kerouac9]

Want a scorching hot take? Hollywood Brown isn't doing anything that Greg Dortch wouldn't do if given the same opportunity.

 

[oaken1]

They could trade Kyler and have to eat all of the cap hit. That's the most obvious way this happens.

Truth. My honest guess is that this is Plan B.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I would not trade him.

He will resign, and we can afford it. He is an excellent #2 receiver.

Yup. And has good character, good work ethic, is the rare receiver that isn’t a diva, plays tough and has great chemistry with Kyler. He’s not going anywhere.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The point of the Panthers looking to trade for a #1 caliber WR is so that they can better support and evaluate Bryce Young.

Doesn't the same apply to the Cardinals with Murray this season... especially considering that Brown is his "buddy" with whom he has on-field chemistry as well?

I think it's pure fantasy that the Cardinals would trade him when they still need to evaluate Murray.

Hollywood had played pretty well in this system and I'm excited to see what he can do with Murray.

 

[Krangodnzr]

They could trade Kyler and have to eat all of the cap hit. That's the most obvious way this happens.

I think this is the most logical reason they punted on free agency...that and they think the players already on the roster were coached so poorly.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Want a scorching hot take? Hollywood Brown isn't doing anything that Greg Dortch wouldn't do if given the same opportunity.

That is super hot.

 

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[Russ Smith]

The sucky thing is we really have no idea what his value here is. Last year he and Kyler barely played together due to injuries, first Hollywood, then Kyler. And this year new offense, and no Kyler yet.

Dobbs is doing a nice job of place holder but he doesn't throw the ball downfield well enough to really take advantage of what Hollywood does. His YPC is actually UP this year but I think it would be better if Kyler were the QB.

But yeah I think there's a very real possibility we end up having to overpay him next year to keep him.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Want a scorching hot take? Hollywood Brown isn't doing anything that Greg Dortch wouldn't do if given the same opportunity.

And the truth.... shall set thee free

 

[Krangodnzr]

Want a scorching hot take? Hollywood Brown isn't doing anything that Greg Dortch wouldn't do if given the same opportunity.

And delusional.

 

[Krangodnzr]

The sucky thing is we really have no idea what his value here is. Last year he and Kyler barely played together due to injuries, first Hollywood, then Kyler. And this year new offense, and no Kyler yet.

Dobbs is doing a nice job of place holder but he doesn't throw the ball downfield well enough to really take advantage of what Hollywood does. His YPC is actually UP this year but I think it would be better if Kyler were the QB.

But yeah I think there's a very real possibility we end up having to overpay him next year to keep him.

I thought it was interesting watching Brown run a deeper route against the Niners and not making the catch and then a play or two later watching a similar route where Wilson made the catch after putting a stutter step on the DB.

Brown will never be the player he was in college, but I think he can be used better.

 

[Krangodnzr]

And the truth.... shall set thee free

Dortch is a tiny possession receiver.