Who is the Star the Suns could get or event want?

[Sci Fi]

I don't think replacing Frye with a quality power forward makes us better. In fact, if it's the only change it makes us worse. Tucker is such a liability as a scorer that without Frye on the court our spacing falls apart. Yet his defense is stellar and his rebounding helps make up for Frye's biggest weakness. If we were to add a true Power Forward we'd need to move Tucker to the bench IMO. But that PF would need to be closer to Karl Malone than JJ Hickson otherwise we'll have neither spacing nor a dominant inside game.

I'm looking forward to the possibility of a starting lineup of Bledsoe, Dragic, Green, Frye and Plumlee along with a second group of Barbosa (or Ish), Tucker, Marcus, Markieff and Len. I think that's a team that could grow into a championship contender in a couple of years just by gaining experience and minor tinkering along the way. Hopefully we could add a solid big man in the draft to eventually replace Frye and a future star at the wing spot.

I like the optimism but I expect they'll be a contender before that.

 

[BC867]

Pacers sign Bynum for the rest of the season

The Suns are not in the same position as the Pacers who are fighting for the best record in the NBA. But the Pacers know what it takes to remain competitive at this time of the season. They signed Andrew Bynum as backup Center.

I am not saying the Suns should have signed Bynum, but a similar move would give the Suns legitimacy for the stretch run, while our two young Centers develop. And not have to continue to play our two Power Forwards (and questionable if either is really a Power Forward) at a bigger position.

http://news.yahoo.com/pacers-sign-andrew-bynum-rest-season-181223626--spt.html

 

[Phrazbit]

Bynum is team cancer scum. With how good our chemistry is I am glad to not have a bastard like him on our roster.

 

[Superbone]

Bynum is team cancer scum. With how good our chemistry is I am glad to not have a bastard like him on our roster.

Agreed. Bynum would be a TERRIBLE idea for this team.

 

[slinslin]

Plumlee is not a power forward.

 

[JS22]

The Suns are not in the same position as the Pacers who are fighting for the best record in the NBA. But the Pacers know what it takes to remain competitive at this time of the season. They signed Andrew Bynum as backup Center.

I am not saying the Suns should have signed Bynum, but a similar move would give the Suns legitimacy for the stretch run, while our two young Centers develop. And not have to continue to play our two Power Forwards (and questionable if either is really a Power Forward) at a bigger position.

http://news.yahoo.com/pacers-sign-andrew-bynum-rest-season-181223626--spt.html

You basically just did.

The fact that you think the Pacers did the right thing by signing Bynum - while implying that the Suns don't "know what it takes" to stay competitive is ludicrous.

Perhaps Bynum reclaims his ability from a few years back. If so, great. But if I'm the Suns the LAST thing I'd want to do right now is take a gamble on a scumbag like Bynum. The Suns are thriving almost exclusively on chemistry. Bringing in Bynum would be a great way to destroy that. There is a reason he is bouncing around despite his "talent."

Also, are you honestly questioning if Morris and Frye are PF's? Morris has transformed into a legitimate PF who is willing to mix it up inside AND has the ability to hit the mid-range jumper.

Frye is crucial to the entire offensive system. He provides spacing that makes the Suns incredibly difficult to defend. At his size, what other position is he going to play?

I'm not even saying that both are great players. I just find it amusing that you don't think either are PF's.

 

[JS22]

Plumlee is not a power forward.

Once again I agree with Slin.

Unless he develops any semblance of a mid-range game, Plumlee will never be a PF. Especially in this system.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Plumlee is not a power forward.

Not now, certainly. In the future, maybe, just maybe, if he develops more of a jump shot. But not likely. So yes, I agree.

 

[elindholm]

I'm not even saying that both are great players. I just find it amusing that you don't think either are PF's.

No joke can be funny if repeated that many times.

 

[Sci Fi]

Bynum is team cancer scum. With how good our chemistry is I am glad to not have a bastard like him on our roster.

Could not agree more. Suns are in a great place. Just say no to retards.

 

[Chaplin]

Let's not congratulate the Pacers too much. The main reason they signed him was to keep him from signing with Miami, no matter what they say.

 

[devilalum]

Could not agree more. Suns are in a great place. Just say no to retards.

Calling Bynum a "******" is an insult to ******** people. And I don't mean that as a joke.

 

[sunsfan88]

Let's not congratulate the Pacers too much. The main reason they signed him was to keep him from signing with Miami, no matter what they say.

Miami doesn't need him they already have a project in Oden who has actually played decent in limited time.

 

[SirStefan32]

Not now, certainly. In the future, maybe, just maybe, if he develops more of a jump shot. But not likely. So yes, I agree.

I am going to disagree. Plumlee can be a PF, alongside a Center who can hit an open 15-18 foot jumper. I also really believe he'll develop a jumper anyway. He seems to be a hard worker who won't mind spending hours practicing shooting.
I am sure he will never be as good of a shooter as Frye, but I think he'll develop a nice jumper that will be enough to keep the defense honest.

 

[sunsfan88]

I am going to disagree. Plumlee can be a PF, alongside a Center who can hit an open 15-18 foot jumper.

Um isn't that the same as saying "Well Shaq can be a PF alongside a C who can hit an open 15-18 jumper"?

Or "Perkins can be a PF if he plays with a stretch 5".

In that case any big man can be a PF....just play him along with a stretch 5.

 

[devilalum]

Putting Plumlee and Len out there at the same time clogs up the lanes for Dragic and Bledsoe to drive and dish.

 

[SirStefan32]

Um isn't that the same as saying "Well Shaq can be a PF alongside a C who can hit an open 15-18 jumper"?

Or "Perkins can be a PF if he plays with a stretch 5".

In that case any big man can be a PF....just play him along with a stretch 5.

Sure, if they are quick/ agile enough to guard 4s.

 

[Catlover]

Putting Plumlee and Len out there at the same time clogs up the lanes for Dragic and Bledsoe to drive and dish.

Right now it would but Plumlee has mentioned that he was mostly an outside shooter in high school. There's no reason to think he can't develop that shot again along with improving his power game. Len looks to be the clear starter within a year or two. If Plumlee continues to improve it's going to be hard to justify him as a backup so it would be nice to get full value out of his size and athleticism. Also, if Bledsoe doesn't re-sign with us we could go to a more traditional setup with a true power forward rather than the stretch 4 we use now. Frye has played great for us this season but he's simply not capable of playing his position in the traditional way.

 

[JS22]

Right now it would but Plumlee has mentioned that he was mostly an outside shooter in high school. There's no reason to think he can't develop that shot again along with improving his power game. Len looks to be the clear starter within a year or two. If Plumlee continues to improve it's going to be hard to justify him as a backup so it would be nice to get full value out of his size and athleticism. Also, if Bledsoe doesn't re-sign with us we could go to a more traditional setup with a true power forward rather than the stretch 4 we use now. Frye has played great for us this season but he's simply not capable of playing his position in the traditional way.

The entire Suns offense is based on spacing. I'm not even much of a Frye fan but he is a perfect fit on this team. Replacing him with a "traditional" 4 would do more harm than good unless it's a superstar.

 

[Catlover]

The entire Suns offense is based on spacing. I'm not even much of a Frye fan but he is a perfect fit on this team.

I'm not sure if you're intending to agree or disagree with me here but I've made this same point several times. Frye is critical to this offense. But it isn't written in stone that we have to play this way unless Jeff is convinced that Dragic can't consistently run the pick and roll or make the entry pass. With two penetrating point guards though the last thing we need is another wide body down on the blocks.

 

[Sci Fi]

Calling Bynum a "******" is an insult to ******** people. And I don't mean that as a joke.

Yes. You are correct. I'm sorry. No excuse.

 

[sunsfan88]

The entire Suns offense is based on spacing. I'm not even much of a Frye fan but he is a perfect fit on this team. Replacing him with a "traditional" 4 would do more harm than good unless it's a superstar.

A PF that can hit jumpers and post up inside would be the "perfect" fit for this team.

When 3s and jumpers aren't falling, who is there to score for the Suns? Dragic can only attack when teams respect the shooters on the floor but when they don't, they will collapse on him leading to zero offense as seen in that blow out loss to the Wardiors.

LMA would be "perfect" fit for this team. He can get points without having to rely on jumpers constantly.

 

[Sci Fi]

I'm OK with if the Suns make no moves this year. The future is so bright. But .......... if Bledsoe can come back and just be good enough to play excellent defense and they go out and get Pau Gasol before the trade deadline, they are the second best team in the West come playoff time.

 

[JS22]

A PF that can hit jumpers and post up inside would be the "perfect" fit for this team.

When 3s and jumpers aren't falling, who is there to score for the Suns? Dragic can only attack when teams respect the shooters on the floor but when they don't, they will collapse on him leading to zero offense as seen in that blow out loss to the Wardiors.

LMA would be "perfect" fit for this team. He can get points without having to rely on jumpers constantly.

I'm referring to Frye being a perfect fit because of his ability to space the floor. Would I prefer someone better? Of course. But a pairing of, for example, Plumlee and Len would be a disaster.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm referring to Frye being a perfect fit because of his ability to space the floor. Would I prefer someone better? Of course. But a pairing of, for example, Plumlee and Len would be a disaster.

That's fair.