Why did BASK keep Gabbert

[StreetTruckinTitan]

one can argue that stanton has indeed been coached to his ceiling

Are we talking doll house ceiling?

 

[kerouac9]

If that were true he wouldnt be on the roster. And , have you seen Stanton play?

I dunno. We carried Logan Thomas on the roster, and he was too bad to play.

 

[Stout]

Good question. Starting Stanton makes no sense, if the team thinks Gabbert might be anything at all. And if they don't, why the hell would they keep him on the roster rather than go with a young developmental prospect. Like so much that's happened with this team in the last few years, it's just stupidity.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

I dunno. We carried Logan Thomas on the roster, and he was too bad to play.

True. But after hearing Keim raving over BG in an interview earlier this season Id say he has big plans for him going forward? We will def see what happens?

 

[kerouac9]

True. But after hearing Keim raving over BG in an interview earlier this season Id say he has big plans for him going forward? We will def see what happens?

Raving about him as a 3rd stringer is very different than expectations for a potential starter or quarterback of the future.

Gabbert has had 6 seasons, 40 NFL starts, and 1226 NFL passing attempts to demonstrate his capability in the NFL, and he's had literally the worst career of any QB ever measured by Football Outsiders. He got benched for Colin Kaepernick.

 

[Bert]

I’m confused, yet again by BASK... can’t figure out why they kept Gabbert. Since we already 100% know that Stanton is absolutely not our QBOF, why start him?? Why wouldn’t we go with Gabbert and find out DURING THIS SEASON, when the bullets are live, if he shows he can be our QBOF? Does BASK really believe it’s prudent to go into next season having not taken a nice, extended look at Gabbert in true real game situations?
The chance of Palmer coming back next year is so remote... and even if he does, is that really our best option?? Do BASK think they can head into the offseason in dire need of a legit NFL starter, with the strategy of grabbing a guy in the draft? A trade? Free agency??
I honestly can’t figure these guys out... But I’m pretty convinced that not playing Gabbert is a very, very dark foreshadowing of what’s to come. Not only a super-craptastic finish to this season, but many more years of battling the 9ers for the rights to the basement dwelling position in the NFC West. Ugh...

I like to think SK brought him in to add depth and to potentially compete with Stanton for the backup job, because I think SK has a pair of functioning eyes like the rest of us and can see that Stanton isn't good. It's just BA's defiance, stubbornness and misguided loyalty that prevents that from ever happening.

I really, really hope BA retires after this season. He's honestly become Whisenhunt. I dont know why people have so much trouble admitting they are wrong. BA is wrong about Stanton. He's not a good QB.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Raving about him as a 3rd stringer is very different than expectations for a potential starter or quarterback of the future.

Gabbert has had 6 seasons, 40 NFL starts, and 1226 NFL passing attempts to demonstrate his capability in the NFL, and he's had literally the worst career of any QB ever measured by Football Outsiders. He got benched for Colin Kaepernick.

Not arguing any of that. Just stating what I heard from keim. As soon as stanton self destructs, and he will, Gabbs can show what he's got or always been?

 

[oaken1]

Not arguing any of that. Just stating what I heard from keim. As soon as stanton self destructs, and he will, Gabbs can show what he's got or always been?

maybe they just kept him to emulate mobile QB's during practice

 

[cardncubfan]

I’m confused, yet again by BASK... can’t figure out why they kept Gabbert. Since we already 100% know that Stanton is absolutely not our QBOF, why start him?? Why wouldn’t we go with Gabbert and find out DURING THIS SEASON, when the bullets are live, if he shows he can be our QBOF? Does BASK really believe it’s prudent to go into next season having not taken a nice, extended look at Gabbert in true real game situations?
The chance of Palmer coming back next year is so remote... and even if he does, is that really our best option?? Do BASK think they can head into the offseason in dire need of a legit NFL starter, with the strategy of grabbing a guy in the draft? A trade? Free agency??
I honestly can’t figure these guys out... But I’m pretty convinced that not playing Gabbert is a very, very dark foreshadowing of what’s to come. Not only a super-craptastic finish to this season, but many more years of battling the 9ers for the rights to the basement dwelling position in the NFC West. Ugh...

They are keeping Gabbert to be the back up next year after Stanton leaves.

 

[CardLogic]

So frustrating this team is, I'm flabber-gabberted!

 

[Jetstream Green]

They are keeping Gabbert to be the back up next year after Stanton leaves.

There is some logical sense to that observation. Can Gabbert simply win a few games with some help, which I think he can. You draft the young QB and let him start and get the growing pains out of the way... who it that QB again

 

[82CardsGrad]

I dunno. We carried Logan Thomas on the roster, and he was too bad to play.

Scored a TD on Sunday... [emoji106]

 

[82CardsGrad]

Raving about him as a 3rd stringer is very different than expectations for a potential starter or quarterback of the future.

Gabbert has had 6 seasons, 40 NFL starts, and 1226 NFL passing attempts to demonstrate his capability in the NFL, and he's had literally the worst career of any QB ever measured by Football Outsiders. He got benched for Colin Kaepernick.

Fine. We know all that. And we k is that Stanton sucks too. But isn’t it true that our oline is putrid? And that a statue of a QB is exactly NOT what is best for this offense? I don’t give a crap about Gabbert’s past (which, if I remember correctly, didn’t he beat us one year, or come damn close?). His athletic ability is IMHO far better suited given our oline debacle...
Further, if in fact BASK sees no chance for Gabbert as our QBOF, what the hell is the plan Stan?? Going forward, who the bell is our QB in 2018 and beyond?? Ugh...

 

[Matt L]

I think they are playing Stanton right now because, as sad as it is, they think he gives them the best chance to win. I'll bet Gabbert is in there within 3 weeks, unless Stanton miraculously leads the Cards to victories.

This makes the most sense to me.

 

[oaken1]

I think they are playing Stanton right now because, as sad as it is, they think he gives them the best chance to win. I'll bet Gabbert is in there within 3 weeks, unless Stanton miraculously leads the Cards to victories.

an example of a coach thinking his system is superior to a players ability...lol...
I like BA's system,... but we need a QB with the ability to drop passes in to a WR,..and with our line we also need a QB with the ability to escape a collapsing pocket and extend a play or run for a first.... gabs can do that

 

[NMCard]

Stanton will be injured pretty quickly behind Keims O-line. The Cards will run Gabbert onto the field soon enough.

 

[kerouac9]

an example of a coach thinking his system is superior to a players ability...lol...
I like BA's system,... but we need a QB with the ability to drop passes in to a WR,..and with our line we also need a QB with the ability to escape a collapsing pocket and extend a play or run for a first.... gabs can do that

Don't you think he would have exhibited this ability or any competence whatsoever in the last six years or for the last two teams he played with?

Wasn't the whole excuse with Gabbert that (1) he didn't have enough quality coaching to settle into a scheme and (2) he wasn't properly protected and had enough good offensive players around him?

Has that changed now where you feel like he has a chance for success? He's historically bad.

 

[AZCB34]

True. But after hearing Keim raving over BG in an interview earlier this season Id say he has big plans for him going forward? We will def see what happens?

He was trying to drive up his trade value. I don't believe they have any serious plans for him going forward.

 

[oaken1]

Don't you think he would have exhibited this ability or any competence whatsoever in the last six years or for the last two teams he played with?

Wasn't the whole excuse with Gabbert that (1) he didn't have enough quality coaching to settle into a scheme and (2) he wasn't properly protected and had enough good offensive players around him?

Has that changed now where you feel like he has a chance for success? He's historically bad.

his system changed every year. True... he was also lacking quality skill players around him..

I aint for a minute thinking gabbert is in any way "The answer" at QB for the cards... I do however think watching our team flail and fail with him would be more entertaining than watching them flail and fail with stanton.

as I mentioned in a different post... #3 pick Vs #5 pick is what I think the difference is between gabs and drew as far as our standings go.

 

[pmacLean]

No kidding. Stanton doesn't run the full offense anyways, so why the emphasis on someone that knows the playbook?

That's right... I think they will shorten it to this
Peterson up the middle
Deep ball to one of the Browns

The end.

 

[pmacLean]

I dunno. We carried Logan Thomas on the roster, and he was too bad to play.

But Thomas was a draft pick... no way they were dumping him until the season was over.. although we seemed to have missed the boat on his TE skills.

 

[oaken1]

But Thomas was a draft pick... no way they were dumping him until the season was over.. although we seemed to have missed the boat on his TE skills.

we carried Barkley for a year too... its what they do

 

[TRW]

I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that this organization can't evaluate QB talent at all. They lucked into Warner and Palmer but aside from that they have been simply atrocious at QB selection.

It's kind of bizarre how bad they are.

 

[oaken1]

I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that this organization can't evaluate QB talent at all. They lucked into Warner and Palmer but aside from that they have been simply atrocious at QB selection.

It's kind of bizarre how bad they are.

pretty sure they did not "luck" into Palmer...anybody with eyes could see he was not the issue in Oakland... dude has always had the skills.


I am almost at the point where I want the redbirds to let the public make their first pick. the top 25 players are evaluated to death leading up to the draft. By draft day there is usually a general consensus as to which QB is best, second, etc... hell,..pick the guy every pundit in the nation has listed at your spot....couldnt be any worse than they have done so far.

like when wentz and goff were the guys.... I was certain Wentz was the only true first round QB and Goff should go around pick 35 or so... turns out I was wrong about Goff,...but I wasnt wrong about Wentz....either way all the pundits had them 1-2

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I aint for a minute thinking gabbert is in any way "The answer" at QB for the cards... I do however think watching our team flail and fail with him would be more entertaining than watching them flail and fail with stanton.

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