Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[Chris_Sanders]

The Support thread and mediocre threads are closed. The various sides of the Murray discussion is polluting multiple discussions.

So this is where you can debate about Kyler Murray as much and as often as you like outside of Game Day related threads.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I even stickied it for you.

 

[602 Native]

We just can't have nice things.

 

[jbjarko]

I still like mashed potatoes.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

We just can't have nice things.

We can have many nice things. What is happening though is like 6 people are bringing the same argument into EVERYTHING.

Hassan Reddick turned into Kyler Murray for Pete's sake. So if you want to participate and read it, here is the place to be.

 

[602 Native]

We can have many nice things. What is happening though is like 6 people are bringing the same argument into EVERYTHING.

Hassan Reddick turned into Kyler Murray for Pete's sake. So if you want to participate and read it, here is the place to be.

I wonder who that could be. LOL

Just hoping we play well on Monday night and get a win.

 

[jf-08]

Is this Murray guy any good?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Is this Murray guy any good?

You want a short answer?

 

[MrYeahBut]

I still like mashed potatoes.

White or brown gravy?

 

[Shane]

White or brown gravy?

Both but depends on mood. But mostly Brown

 

[kerouac9]

White or brown gravy?

Please keep this in P&R

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Is this Murray guy any good?

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[Chris_Sanders]

Is this Murray guy any good?

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[Chris_Sanders]

There the debate fully encapsulated

 

[Cheesebeef]

You want a short answer?

Hehe…

 

[602 Native]

White or brown gravy?

There’s no such thing as white gravy in my time line.

 

[gimpy]

Aww, Chris. You missed a thread.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

White or brown gravy?

White if it's with chicken fried steak. Yum!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

paging @Ouchie-Z-Clown

re Kyler "having the green light to scramble"

Again, I really don't know. I understand some plays are RPOs, and also that he audibles sometimes, but how far his ability to modify a play call extends, I'm really not sure.

And he talks all the time about being great, trying to be "the best ever" and all of that. Plus I think he wants to be seen as a leader, and wants the respect and admiration of his teammates. Of guys like Conner, Dortch, Wilson, "Higgy-Bear", McBride, etc

So I have a really hard time believing that he's passing up opportunities for easy 11 yard run-and-slides in favor of more difficult back shoulder throws to MHJ. But who knows? Maybe he doesn't want to call his own number too much?

It's really mysterious to me.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

"Higgy-Bear"

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[602 Native]

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[SECTION 11]

paging @Ouchie-Z-Clown

re Kyler "having the green light to scramble"

Again, I really don't know. I understand some plays are RPOs, and also that he audibles sometimes, but how far his ability to modify a play call extends, I'm really not sure.

And he talks all the time about being great, trying to be "the best ever" and all of that. Plus I think he wants to be seen as a leader, and wants the respect and admiration of his teammates. Of guys like Conner, Dortch, Wilson, "Higgy-Bear", McBride, etc

So I have a really hard time believing that he's passing up opportunities for easy 11 yard run-and-slides in favor of more difficult back shoulder throws to MHJ. But who knows? Maybe he doesn't want to call his own number too much?

It's really mysterious to me.

Stay on target. We talkin bout gravy.

 

[SECTION 11]

KM is the least of our worries. I don’t know what people are thinking otherwise.

 

[DVontel]

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@Chopper0080 @kerouac9

 

[kerouac9]

KM is the least of our worries. I don’t know what people are thinking otherwise.

It's hard because he's such a focal point. This is like when fans were attacking Adrian Wilson back in the day (before he deserved it!). You're not going to get better by replacing the second- or third-best player on your unit; you have to push out the #8, #9, and #10 guys.

I think that Kyler's challenges are so persistent and obvious that it's difficult to understand why they're not fixed. You can still make and win a Super Bowl with a QB who is between the 15th and 9th best players at his position, but it places a huge burden on the rest of the organization.