Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[Cheesebeef]

Easy for you to say. You're not in your 70's.

We’re eating next year with him. So wouldn’t you want us to not have to delay getting better by two more years because that’s what happens if we keep him.

 

[AZ Native]

How many times does Kyler get a “make or break” season?!

Apparently 7, counting next year.

 

[AZ Native]

We’re eating next year with him. So wouldn’t you want us to not have to delay getting better by two more years because that’s what happens if we keep him.

Of course, thus the smiley face at the end.

 

[Cheesebeef]

MHJ at least was generally regarded as the best wide receiever in the draft.

I understand that. But there were also arguments made for Nabers and end of day, if you blow the pick, you blow the pick.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Of course, thus the smiley face at the end.

Ah… missed that.

 

[slanidrac16]

Can anybody actually picture Gannon , Petzing and Ossenfort looking at each other and be totally convinced Kyler is all that and a bag of chips?

The problem is Gannon has staked his reputation on just how great Kyler is.
Would Petzing be a different or better OC if he had a Qb like Goff, Darnold, Carr, Mayfield or Herbert?

If anything changes it will be Petzing taking the fall. Which means we start over with a new OC and offensive scheme and we’ll be forced to listen to the learning curve excuse next year. And if there’s no improvement then we will be dumping Kyler and starting over with a new qb learning a new system.

It’s like a hamster on a wheel.

 

[Russ Smith]

The first pick he got suckered into it by the LB, acted like he was leaving the area and then went and took the ball. Just very bad. The 2nd one was two things, too much air under the ball, and another reminder how other teams have way better safeties than us at defending the pass. Bryant is a converted CB and the amount of ground he covered on that play to get the pick was pretty impressive, but I see NFL safeties do that week after week.

in our side no, Budda is a great guy and tough as nails but he ran into a block that gave Charbonneau the long TD run earlier, and then with the game on the line Geno airmails a ball trying to hit Metcalf, the Budda is literally running right at the football and then for some odd reason stopped and it bounced at his feet. He might not get there but at least close on the ball and go for it. He makes that pick we still have a chance.

 

[602 Native]

Can anybody actually picture Gannon , Petzing and Ossenfort looking at each other and be totally convinced Kyler is all that and a bag of chips?

The problem is Gannon has staked his reputation on just how great Kyler is.
Would Petzing be a different or better OC if he had a Qb like Goff, Darnold, Carr, Mayfield or Herbert?

If anything changes it will be Petzing taking the fall. Which means we start over with a new OC and offensive scheme and we’ll be forced to listen to the learning curve excuse next year. And if there’s no improvement then we will be dumping Kyler and starting over with a new qb learning a new system.

It’s like a hamster on a wheel.

Petzing is a run game coordinator at best.

If the losing continues this season JG will have to make a change. There will be no other option. Ralis has the excuse of getting zero talent on defense. The problem is we will probably win 2-3 more games which is actually a good season in terms of where this team should be.

If that happens very little change will happen next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Petzing is a run game coordinator at best.

If the losing continues this season JG will have to make a change. There will be no other option. Ralis has the excuse of getting zero talent on defense. The problem is we will probably win 2-3 more games which is actually a good season in terms of where this team should be.

Lol… yeah, we’re going to win 2-3 more games this season, just like we were gonna roll coming out of the bye into the soft part of the schedule and start showing how good we really are with Kyler after playing “the tough part of the schedule.”

 

[602 Native]

Lol… yeah, we’re going to win 2-3 more games this season, just like we were gonna roll coming out of the bye into the soft part of the schedule and start showing how good we really are with Kyler after playing “the tough part of the schedule.”

This was never said by anyone but you can keep making things up.

 

[kerouac9]

Next week is the real test for Kyler and whether he can win

 

[BirdGangThing]

Next week is the real test for Kyler and whether he can win

oh he'll win his ass off next week - drafting outside the top 20 spells job security for kyler murray

 

[Cheesebeef]

This was never said by anyone but you can keep making things up.

That was never said by anyone?! Maybe it was one of the other Kyler Sychopants… but it was definitely said. Just hard to tell the difference between y’all.

But I do find it funny that the guy who says Kyler is elite accusing others of making things up.

 

[kerouac9]

That was never said by anyone?! Maybe it was one of the other Kyler Sychopants… but it was definitely said. Just hard to tell the difference between y’all.

But I do find it funny that the guy who says Kyler is elite accusing others of making things up.

Bro look at his high school tape

 

[Cheesebeef]

This was never said by anyone but you can keep making things up.

You’re a liar. The internet isn’t written in pencil, it’s written in ink 602.

Here’s you lauding about how we were about to go on a run with a schedule ripe for it.

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[602 Native]

You’re a liar. The internet isn’t written in pencil, it’s written in ink 602.

Here’s you lauding about how we were about to go on a run with a schedule ripe for it.

Chicago Bears @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 10/27/24-11/2/24

I don't believe in this stuff. In fact, I think it really is more often the opposite. I remember when we choked away that game to the unbeaten Bears on Monday night. And, next game, it was all this kind of talk about how we will slaughter a bad Raiders team. Instead, we actually played...

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And we absolutely did.

Are you drunk?

 

[Cheesebeef]

This was never said by anyone but you can keep making things up.

I mean, this is REALLY pathetic. You and I LITERALLY had this conversation earlier in the season.

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Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

Should I go back and find all the posts that said I was stupid for thinking AZ should sign Derrick Henry?

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Cheese:
And what will you say if the above doesn’t happen?

The offense is barely better than the Dobbs led offense.

602:
We won plenty of games when K1 returned last season.
The backend of the schedule will be no different.

This is embarassing after accusing someone of making something up.

 

[Cheesebeef]

And we absolutely did.

Are you drunk?

Lol… we absolutely did? We won 2 games against pathetic teams followed up by 3 straight faceplants.

Winning 2 of 5 games is a run? Are YOU drunk?

 

[602 Native]

I mean, this is REALLY pathetic. You and I LITERALLY had this conversation earlier in the season.

Post 649:

Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

Should I go back and find all the posts that said I was stupid for thinking AZ should sign Derrick Henry?

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Cheese:
And what will you say if the above doesn’t happen?

The offense is barely better than the Dobbs led offense.

602:
We won plenty of games when K1 returned last season.
The backend of the schedule will be no different.

This is embarassing after accusing someone of making something up.

I said the schedule eased up after GB which it absolutely did and we did go on a run.

Now you’re saying that after the bye I said we would roll which never happened. The next two games are against crap teams. If we don’t win those this team is in very big trouble.

 

[AZ Native]

Next week is the real test for Kyler and whether he can win

You are a week behind.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Apologies to all you good posters, because this is my first post here and being a member of other team forums I understand the protocols of being a new poster.

Glad to be here, hope to be a valued member and all that (i really do), but I’m a Canadian snowbird fan that has followed this guy since the start. This season should be his end here. Never will be successful.

He can be exciting but that’s about it.

Welcome. Tough time to come aboard.

 

[602 Native]

Lol… we absolutely did? We won 2 games against pathetic teams followed up by 3 straight faceplants.

Winning 2 of 5 games is a run? Are YOU drunk?

“I have been saying this all season”

That means that you quoting that at the bears game means I said it before that game.

Again put down the sauce.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The first pick he got suckered into it by the LB, acted like he was leaving the area and then went and took the ball. Just very bad. The 2nd one was two things, too much air under the ball, and another reminder how other teams have way better safeties than us at defending the pass. Bryant is a converted CB and the amount of ground he covered on that play to get the pick was pretty impressive, but I see NFL safeties do that week after week.

in our side no, Budda is a great guy and tough as nails but he ran into a block that gave Charbonneau the long TD run earlier, and then with the game on the line Geno airmails a ball trying to hit Metcalf, the Budda is literally running right at the football and then for some odd reason stopped and it bounced at his feet. He might not get there but at least close on the ball and go for it. He makes that pick we still have a chance.

Panicman Checkdownberg threw it WAAAAY too late on the second one. The receiver had been open almost immediately on the cross. It was an egregiously bad throw.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I remember that Petz made a statement that Murray has to slow down in the pocket and let things develop. It seemed after that Murray did slow down and played much better but it seems to me that he is back going 90 MPH in 35.

 

[Redsz]

Britten golden made a couple of good points today on the post game show:

It's clear that Kyler is not a pocket quarterback. He can't do it consistently. But he can do it intermittently. So why are we not doing more rollouts or designed runs? We do it sporadically, it works, and then it stops. Play to his strengths!

His bad body language has come back over the last three games. He's doing that thing where he shrugs his shoulders or throws his hands up when things go wrong. Players get upset. It happens. But you're the leader of the team man! Stop with the theatrics.