Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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Two Q1 picks were awful, unforced errors. Pretty much the difference today, and Murray comes up short (haha) again in a big game.

Sometimes people who aren't good under pressure get tired of failing in stressful situations. They get more mad than scared and just say "f" it. I guess I have to hope that happens for him.
 
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Two Q1 picks were awful, unforced errors. Pretty much the difference today, and Murray comes up short (haha) again in a big game.

Sometime people who aren't good under pressure get tired of failing stressful situations. I guess I have to hope that happens for him.

That’s great for you but really unfair for the rest of us to have to suffer through this crap year after year.

If this team doesn’t cut bait in some way shape or form with Kyler, they will never be serious about winning.
 

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Sad day for this organization and its fans - the debate for me now:

With no real good college QB prospects on the horizon next draft- how long do we continue to run with Kyler and his contract?
 

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That’s great for you but really unfair for the rest of us to have to suffer through this crap year after year.

If this team doesn’t cut bait in some way shape or form with Kyler, they will never be serious about winning.
The Cards have never been serious about winning.

If we move on from K1 the whole coaching staff and FO will be turned over again.
 

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2-3 times a year Kyler will play like Josh Allen.
The rest of the season he plays around Derek Carr's level.
When the game actually matters he plays around Daniel Jones' level.

We really won't have the opportunity to get someone better, so thats the reality of the organization unless we get a superteam to carry Kyler.
 

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Unforced errors and total opposite of clutch plays since the bye.

He's a front runner. Plays well when there is no pressure or expectations.
Yeah, I'm out. Warner or Palmer would have put the team on their shoulders and gotten the W.

If we want to move on, this is the offseason to do it, IMO. We can soak up the cap hit.
 

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2-3 times a year Kyler will play like Josh Allen.
The rest of the season he plays around Derek Carr's level.
When the game actually matters he plays around Daniel Jones' level.

We really won't have the opportunity to get someone better, so thats the reality of the organization unless we get a superteam to carry Kyler.

BS. Everyone said the Broncos were screwed with Wilson and his construct. They dumped him, picked up a mid-round rookie QB and are likely headed to the playoffs. It’s not impossible to move on from crap and get better.

The Vikings also did the same thing, cutting ties with their Kyler Murray, drafted a QB who got hurt in preseason and never even saw a snap and STILL are 11-2 and headed to the playoffs.

The only reason we’re doomed to keep Kyler and this crap is if we doom ourselves because we’re too cheap to bite the bullet and move on.
 

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BS. Everyone said the Broncos were screwed with Wilson and his construct. They dumped him, picked up a mid-round rookie QB and are likely headed to the playoffs. It’s not impossible to move on from crap and get better.

The Vikings also did the same thing, cutting ties with their Kyler Murray, drafted a QB who got hurt in preseason and never even saw a snap and STILL are 11-2 and headed to the playoffs.

The only reason we’re doomed to keep Kyler and this crap is if we doom ourselves because we’re too cheap to bite the bullet and move on.
I agree but those two other examples have way better rosters than us. Regardless it’s probably time to move on if there’s an option we think is better.
 

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KM is as useless as Dak Freaking Prescott in Dallas. Look at the depths to which that once proud franchise has fallen. Cards continue to "rebuild" year after year after year with no real chance to go anywhere.
 

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