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Just reported the 3 yr offer to Nash by the Raptors was false.

Perhaps good. I want a sign and trade for Nash if he must leave.

The Suns could do much worse than giving Nash a three year contract with perhaps two years guaranteed and the third year a team option or a partial guarantee.
 

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I don't get their interest in Felton, Crawford, Allen, Terry and Dragic at all..

Eric Gordon, Jordan Hill, Michael Beasley, OJ Mayo at least make some sense to get younger and more athletic.

Why Terry or Crawford when you could go for Bayless or Lou Williams? Similiar much younger players.
 

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Perhaps good. I want a sign and trade for Nash if he must leave.

The Suns could do much worse than giving Nash a three year contract with perhaps two years guaranteed and the third year a team option or a partial guarantee.

I would ok with that but still not sure I would give Nash 10Million+ a year. I maybe willing to do something like 7-9Million, 5-8milion, then 6million Team option with buyout. Only the Raptors will be ones willing to give him even 3 years and more than the Exception all other intrested teams are going to be offering the 5 and 3Million exception.
 

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I don't get their interest in Felton, Crawford, Allen, Terry and Dragic at all..

Eric Gordon, Jordan Hill, Michael Beasley, OJ Mayo at least make some sense to get younger and more athletic.

Why Terry or Crawford when you could go for Bayless or Lou Williams? Similiar much younger players.

They could be intrested but only offering up small contracts to stay competative and maintain cap flex for next year.

It looks like they are willing to spend more on youth, but still do vet contracts like Hill to see if they can have some stop gaps for 1-2 years, until they can fill a need through draft/free agency next year.
 

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I could be talked into Landry Fields, from what I remember at least he tries on defense. If the Suns signed Jason Terry however, I'd have to boycott how ever many seasons he'd sign for. There's few players I loathe more than Terry.
 

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I could be talked into Landry Fields, from what I remember at least he tries on defense. If the Suns signed Jason Terry however, I'd have to boycott how ever many seasons he'd sign for. There's few players I loathe more than Terry.

Well if we can take Robert Horry on our team I guess we could take Terry also. But if we keep adding UofA players I might go crazy. What's Ike up to these days... (HARDEN 2013!)
 

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Just reported the 3 yr offer to Nash by the Raptors was false.

Do you have a link?

I think Toronto will offer Nash a contract similar to Garnett, 3 years at 34M.
 

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Well if we can take Robert Horry on our team I guess we could take Terry also. But if we keep adding UofA players I might go crazy. What's Ike up to these days... (HARDEN 2013!)

If we must add UofA players lets add Jerryd Bayless and Jordan Hill. I think they have never been given the best opportunities to display their skills.
 

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We new Toronto was going to be offering Nash a deal, They need to make cap space first before they can "officialy" offer a deal. I am sure they will make this offer but only and when they move Calderon's deal.
 

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We new Toronto was going to be offering Nash a deal, They need to make cap space first before they can "officialy" offer a deal. I am sure they will make this offer but only and when they move Calderon's deal.

Again Calderon could hold the Suns CAP space for a year and Toronto would not have to buy him out. They throw in a first round draft pick as well for Nash. I think $10M+ is a good price for a draft pick.
 

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Again Calderon could hold the Suns CAP space for a year and Toronto would not have to buy him out. They throw in a first round draft pick as well for Nash. I think $10M+ is a good price for a draft pick.


True considering Toronto will not make the playoffs either. Would be nice to pick up another lotto pick. I would just ask for another player just so they have less to work with and increases the draft%

We could also included Warrick and Childress then Raptors can choose one to cut.

If Caldaron is waved he will prob sign with Lakers and that would suck for us also.
 

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Wow Dragic is looking for 10mil a year. I think that would put us out of the running.

I believe this is the real reason behind PHX taking Marshall. They knew Dragic would be too expensive so they get their PG cheap but I think I would rather have Dragic, much more capable on offense and plays defense.
 

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I believe this is the real reason behind PHX taking Marshall. They knew Dragic would be too expensive so they get their PG cheap but I think I would rather have Dragic, much more capable on offense and plays defense.

I think the Suns are looking for a starting PG, just one for 1-2 years until they feel Marshall is ready. I don't see them spending be $$ on a star PG though, unless Marshall is a bust by the end of next year.
 

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Recap: The Suns have reportedly showed interest in

PG: Nash, Dragic, Felton
SG: Gordon, Mayo, Fields, Crawford, Terry
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PF: Beasley, J. Hill
C: Lopez, Kaman

No Gee, Hickson, Rush, Young, Arthur, or Allen yet.
 

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Why would Nash want to go to Toronto, yea the idea of being a hero at home is cool but no way will they win a championship in his "NBA lifetime". I know it is all about money, but i think being on a championship team is a better lure for him.
If Toronto don't offer a lot for him, i see him deciding to remain with the Suns. If he does go to Toronto, one can only hope we get Derozan. i know, pipe dreams.
 

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I think the Suns are looking for a starting PG, just one for 1-2 years until they feel Marshall is ready. I don't see them spending be $$ on a star PG though, unless Marshall is a bust by the end of next year.

I am going to go out on a limb and predict that Marshall will be a bust. I hope not and he may be a floor general who can pass but his lack of athleticism, defense and jump shot will really expose him. Dragic is much more proven and has the all around game to be successful. I would have rather had PHX trade down in the first round and take Marquis Teague who I feel with be a much better player than Marshall.
 

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I think the Suns are looking for a starting PG, just one for 1-2 years until they feel Marshall is ready. I don't see them spending be $$ on a star PG though, unless Marshall is a bust by the end of next year.

Calderon could fill this role plus at least another first round draft pick or whatever is enticing could help the Suns on their journey. It also gives the Suns a season to evaluate Marshall.
 

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I am going to go out on a limb and predict that Marshall will be a bust. I hope not and he may be a floor general who can pass but his lack of athleticism, defense and jump shot will really expose him. Dragic is much more proven and has the all around game to be successful. I would have rather had PHX trade down in the first round and take Marquis Teague who I feel with be a much better player than Marshall.

That can be said for all the draft picks. We will see in 1-2 years, as of right now he fits what we needed and at @13 was a solid pick for the talent that was avaible at that spot.
 

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I am going to go out on a limb and predict that Marshall will be a bust. I hope not and he may be a floor general who can pass but his lack of athleticism, defense and jump shot will really expose him. Dragic is much more proven and has the all around game to be successful. I would have rather had PHX trade down in the first round and take Marquis Teague who I feel with be a much better player than Marshall.

For my own peace of mind I view Marshall as a backup PG, a role he would seem likely to fill.
 

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Toronto may be in Canada, but I think it's a bit far to be saying he's going 'home' just because it's Canada. It's a perception that the media has been harping on for quite some time that is just plain incorrect.

He grew up in British Columbia. It's like saying someone on the Toronto Bluejays is coming home to play on the Marlins, though they are from the Los Angeles area.

Sure it's the same country, thus it is home in a sense. But wrong side of Canada. It's not like he'd be coming 'home' from Germany or France.

I'm sure it has some appeal to Nash, but it'd be a home he's never lived in. One plus Toronto has is that it'd be a short flight to his NY summer home. I can see THAT as being a bigger factor than 'going home'. He'd be closer to his actual summer home.

Personally I'm of the mindset that if the Suns don't get Nash back, whether we trade him, or more likely he leaves outright, we should target players for a show me contract. If necessary make it very sweet 1 year deal. There is no reason we can't overpay someone for 1 year to see if they are worth it. Thus still 'keeping' our power dry.

Additionally all those contracts are 'expiring' contracts and become tradeable for picks if we choose to. (and if obviously someone wants to take the other side)

If a guy's worth is 3-4 mill a season, but wants 3-4 years. I'd be willing to pay 6-8 on a one year contract.

It would
a) keep our powder dry for future seasons
b) allow us to try out a few different guys and pick the one or perhaps two to keep (yet be in a position where since it expires we can sign other guys first and thus be able to go over the cap since they aren't free agents from other teams)
c) allow us to trade the ones we don't want, or maybe even someone who does pan out for the bigger picture....draft picks. Maybe draft picks and a young player, or maybe a decent but overpaid guy with an additional year on the contract and draft pick(s). Thus worst case gaining draft picks, for losing some, but not all flexibility for say an additional season.

But we'd need a front office who can think, and an owner who doesn't mind overspending a bit (small bit) to create opportunity. IMO this approach gives you the most opportunity from where we stand with limited talent and no extra picks.

While I would love to get a high pick for sucking, I think the more important factor that you can control is finding talent and acquiring more picks. It's really hard to get in the top 3, so I would rather go about it this way. I'd rather us be active than hoping on ping pong balls to drop favorably...which of course we'd still have that. Though I doubt we have planners with a bankroll capable of pulling it off.
 
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Nash himself has said, "going to Toronto would be home for me"
 

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