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The update here says no suspensions.

http://nba.si.com/2014/05/02/paul-g...nch-suspension-game-7-george-hill-mike-scott/

Too bad they didn't relax this when the Suns violated it in the playoffs a few years back:

According to NBA rules: “During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $50,000.
 

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Actually it's fair now, was unfair before.

Players leave the bench all the time, especially during emotional games. After any big play, bench players intrude onto the court to celebrate. So if you're going to try to follow the letter of the law, you need some way of deciding what is or is not an "altercation," which of course is a judgment call.

Stoudemire should have been suspended, because he came on the court with the apparent intent to join the fracas, at least initially. Diaw did what hundreds of players have done before and since -- wandered in the direction of the court to see what was going on. That isn't punished now, and it shouldn't have been punished before.
 

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The update here says no suspensions.

http://nba.si.com/2014/05/02/paul-g...nch-suspension-game-7-george-hill-mike-scott/

Too bad they didn't relax this when the Suns violated it in the playoffs a few years back:

According to NBA rules: “During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $50,000.

okay...Rasual Butler not getting suspended is COMPLETE BS.

I've always thought Amare deserved his suspension. He shot out like a cannon towards that fight, but Diaw reacted a little and then immediately recoiled to the bench. But if Butler didn't get suspended, I don't know how the NBA could square that against what happened in the past.

Maybe Silver just actually has his head screwed on straight and isn't the ginormous dictatorial jackass that Stern was.
 

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Actually it's fair now, was unfair before.

Players leave the bench all the time, especially during emotional games. After any big play, bench players intrude onto the court to celebrate. So if you're going to try to follow the letter of the law, you need some way of deciding what is or is not an "altercation," which of course is a judgment call.

Stoudemire should have been suspended, because he came on the court with the apparent intent to join the fracas, at least initially. Diaw did what hundreds of players have done before and since -- wandered in the direction of the court to see what was going on. That isn't punished now, and it shouldn't have been punished before.

totally agree.
 

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okay...Rasual Butler not getting suspended is COMPLETE BS.

I've always thought Amare deserved his suspension. He shot out like a cannon towards that fight, but Diaw reacted a little and then immediately recoiled to the bench. But if Butler didn't get suspended, I don't know how the NBA could square that against what happened in the past.

Maybe Silver just actually has his head screwed on straight and isn't the ginormous dictatorial jackass that Stern was.


OK, I guess I should read the rule. Duh. Those guys were pretty close to the bench. Amare in 2007 was went pretty far from the bench.
 

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man, that series just SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED.

And really, that series is the one why I think DA is such a bad HC. Starting James Jones in Game 1 and giving KT only 12 minutes of game time let the Spurs go off in that game, putting us behind the 8 ball right off the bat. And not only that, but DA was so over the top explosively pissed all series long, that he led the way in the team not keeping it's composure. Pop and the Spurs played to our mental weakness like a harp from hell. If the HC was going to explode at a moment's notice, it was only a matter of time before the players did. We were better physically then that Spurs team, but they whipped the crap out of us mentally and that goes on the HC, IMO.
 

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HOLY SMOKES!!! What an ending!

It's amazing how much can happen in such a short time. Change of fortune followed by another and then another. Can't say that was very smart of the Rockets though as he is the one player that should have not been allowed to catch the ball. I'd have left Lopez unguarded and put Howard on the inbound pass. Even if they threw it to a wide open Robin there's a decent chance he'd fumble it.
 

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Aside from the Miami series...every match up so far has been pretty competitive and entertaining to watch
 

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It's amazing how much can happen in such a short time. Change of fortune followed by another and then another. Can't say that was very smart of the Rockets though as he is the one player that should have not been allowed to catch the ball. I'd have left Lopez unguarded and put Howard on the inbound pass. Even if they threw it to a wide open Robin there's a decent chance he'd fumble it.


Ha, yep. I've probably been unduly harsh on Robin over the years but his hands are as bad as can be imagined. He was right there for the board, gets it in his hands and some how ends up dumping it right into Parson's lap.

Its hard to believe, even off a double screen, that Lillard ended up that open and right up the middle too, but he still has to hit the shot. Great play.

How long has it been since we've seen a series end on a buzzer beater?
 

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Ha, yep. I've probably been unduly harsh on Robin over the years but his hands are as bad as can be imagined. He was right there for the board, gets it in his hands and some how ends up dumping it right into Parson's lap.

Its hard to believe, even off a double screen, that Lillard ended up that open and right up the middle too, but he still has to hit the shot. Great play.

How long has it been since we've seen a series end on a buzzer beater?

Last one I can remember was the Houston-Utah WCF when Stockton nailed a 3 in Game 6 at the buzzer versus the Hakeem/Drexler/Barkely squad.

I also remember Allan Houston nailing a Game 5 walk off the best the Heat in the first round back when the first round was 5 games.
 

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Ha, yep. I've probably been unduly harsh on Robin over the years but his hands are as bad as can be imagined. He was right there for the board, gets it in his hands and some how ends up dumping it right into Parson's lap.

Its hard to believe, even off a double screen, that Lillard ended up that open and right up the middle too, but he still has to hit the shot. Great play.

How long has it been since we've seen a series end on a buzzer beater?

I'm not a big Lillard fan but when it comes to moments like that he's pretty scary. Reminds me of Nick Van Exel although that might be my memory making more out of him than is warranted. Anyway, Lillard might be the most clutch guard in the league.

Lopez has his flaws but he's a better player than I ever thought he'd be. He was hit a few times on that play where he fumbled the ball but the way he tried to rebound it made it seem like his other arm was being held. But when I rewind and slow-mo the play I just can't see any evidence of it. It looks like he chose to try and control that one-handed which makes no sense.
 

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Actually it's fair now, was unfair before.

Players leave the bench all the time, especially during emotional games. After any big play, bench players intrude onto the court to celebrate. So if you're going to try to follow the letter of the law, you need some way of deciding what is or is not an "altercation," which of course is a judgment call.

Stoudemire should have been suspended, because he came on the court with the apparent intent to join the fracas, at least initially. Diaw did what hundreds of players have done before and since -- wandered in the direction of the court to see what was going on. That isn't punished now, and it shouldn't have been punished before.

Not fair that it's not not fair now, but was not not not fair before.
 
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