2016 NBA Draft thread

[overseascardfan]

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Heard Ellenson was in for a private workout yesterday as well.

 

[Covert Rain]

I agree this draft is a head scratcher. This reminds me a lot of the 2014 draft where the Suns had three picks, but there was a lot of talent in that draft 1-16. The Suns had picks at 14, 18 and 27.

At least the Suns have have early picks at 4 and 13 picks plus picks at 28 and 34.

However, I think this is a much deeper draft. Good talent should be found later in the first round and into the second round.

I think the talent all bunches up very quickly in this draft. I really don't see a huge difference between pick #13 and the very end of the 1st round for example. The second round is basically a traffic jam as well of similar type players.

 

[Ronin]

Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro 29m29 minutes ago
North Carolina's Brice Johnson is in town today, when the Suns are holding three draft workouts.

 

[Ronin]

Alex KennedyVerified account ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 14m14 minutes ago
The San Antonio Spurs have explored moving up in the first round of the draft, per sources. They currently have the No. 29 pick.

 

[elindholm]

Alex KennedyVerified account ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 14m14 minutes ago
The San Antonio Spurs have explored moving up in the first round of the draft, per sources. They currently have the No. 29 pick.

Leonard and the #29 for Knight and the #28. Done and done.

 

[SirStefan32]

Leonard and the #29 for Knight and the #28. Done and done.

I'd ask for Aldridge too, just to even that out a little bit.

 

[Ronin]

Brian Robb ‏@CelticsHub Jun 8
Domantas Sabonis said he's only going to workout for four teams total: Boston, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brian Robb ‏@CelticsHub Jun 8
Domantas Sabonis said he's only going to workout for four teams total: Boston, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto.

It looks like Sabonis expects to be drafted no later than #12 even though some of the teams have more than one first round pick. The Celtics have an early pick at #3, the Suns #4, the Raptors at #9 and the Jazz at #12.

This should provide some hints.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It looks like Sabonis expects to be drafted no later than #12 even though some of the teams have more than one first round pick. The Celtics have an early pick at #3, the Suns #4, the Raptors at #9 and the Jazz at #12.

This should provide some hints.

I'm not following here, what are you referring to that has you saying he'll be gone prior to our 13th pick?

 

[elindholm]

Brian Robb ‏@CelticsHub Jun 8
Domantas Sabonis said he's only going to workout for four teams total: Boston, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto.

Boston is a weird choice, since I can't imagine he'd go at #3. Maybe they're thinking of trading down? The other teams (Toronto #9, Utah #12, Phoenix #13) are all in the same general territory. And Toronto may be thinking that they have to add a big if they aren't confident they can keep Biyombo.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm not following here, what are you referring to that has you saying he'll be gone prior to our 13th pick?

Based upon who Sabonis is working out for, there is a good possibility he will be gone by the 12th pick. However, since the Suns draft #13, I'm not eliminating this possibility. Sabonis only worked out for Boston, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto.

 

[slinslin]

Boston is a weird choice, since I can't imagine he'd go at #3. Maybe they're thinking of trading down? The other teams (Toronto #9, Utah #12, Phoenix #13) are all in the same general territory. And Toronto may be thinking that they have to add a big if they aren't confident they can keep Biyombo.

Boston has the 16th pick

 

[elindholm]

Boston has the 16th pick

Whoops, I missed that, thanks.

 

[Mainstreet]

Boston has the 16th pick

So maybe Sabonis goes in the slots 9-16 instead of 3-13. It makes more sense than my original thought unless he is graded higher by teams.

 

[Ronin]

There is some talk about Chriss going #2 by Chad ford and Bill Simmons.

Bill Simmons ‏@BillSimmons 7m7 minutes ago
Bill Simmons Retweeted ESPN Insider
This is why I think Boston takes Chriss if they keep the pick
Tough call Bill. Probably Chriss. But very, very close. - @chadfordinsider

There is a GM out there that thinks Chriss should go #2

ProBasketballTalk ‏@nbcprobballtalk 11m11 minutes ago
NBA GM: Lakers should draft Marquese Chriss at No. 2

 

[JCSunsfan]

There is some talk about Chriss going #2 by Chad ford and Bill Simmons.

There is a GM out there that thinks Chriss should go #2

Correction, there is a GM that thinks the Lakers should draft Chriss #2. It is most certainly Danny Ainge.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Correction, there is a GM that thinks the Lakers should draft Chriss #2. It is most certainly Danny Ainge.

I started to suggest that myself as a joke but the more I thought about the less sure I was that it was actually a joke. But who knows where they get these supposed inside reports. For all we know, they just make up whatever they need whenever they need something. Talk about a field that has zero oversight. The sports reporting rumor mill is out of this world and we sometimes forget it's not actually journalism, it's pure fiction.

 

[slinslin]

There is some talk about Chriss going #2 by Chad ford and Bill Simmons.

There is a GM out there that thinks Chriss should go #2

Chad Ford also says the comparisons he heard for Chriss from people around the league are bigger Shawn Marion or young Shawn Kemp.

 

[sunsfan88]

I think there's a higher chance of the Suns winning the NBA championship next season than there is of Simmons and Ingram not being the top 2 picks regardless of what "reports" are out there.

 

[3rdside]

Jamal Murray apparently nailed 79 from 100 3's with Boston

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/740590873772208132

And unless we trade knight, Murray is not that good for us team fit wise...

Sounds like we could be shaping up for Chriss.


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[AzStevenCal]

Jamal Murray apparently nailed 79 from 100 3's with Boston

https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/740590873772208132

And unless we trade knight, Murray is not that good for us team fit wise...

Sounds like we could be shaping up for Chriss.

Like so many, I really worry about Murray's lack of lateral quickness. I like the idea of Bender or Chriss right now but it's fluid.

 

[slinslin]

Jamal Murrays value for the Suns hinges completely on how you rate him as a potential fit alongside Booker.

If you dont think he has enough PG skills and cant cover PGs he is probably not a good fit.

I really like Dejounte Murray as a PG fit for the future. Would consider him strongly at #13 if we go Chriss first or Labissiere is off the board.

 

[3rdside]

What does everyone see in bender? Can someone post a link to a video or something as I'm just not seeing it.

I read that one article saying he should be in the same tier as Simmons and Ingram, which formed my initial opinion of him, but having watched a few videos since I'm just not seeing anything at all that screams awesome.


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[3rdside]

Ask and ye shall receive..

Steve (Boston)

What is it about Dragan Bender that causes you to put him in the same tier (or similar) to Ingram? Very young guy in advanced league...but seems good at a few things but great at none? Make me feel good about the Celtics taking him at 3!
Kevin Pelton (3:15 PM)

I would say that for his age and size, Bender's shooting is an elite skill. If we compare Bender to Marquese Chriss, the other big man in that area of the draft, both players are considered good shooters but I think Bender is substantially better. That and his playmaking give him the edge over Chriss. A little harder to compare directly with Ingram at another position but I think Bender has shown more potentially elite skills.

Brian (MSP)

What are your projections for Domantas Sabonis? He looked pretty good against Poeltl in the NCAA tourney. What is his draft range?
Kevin Pelton (3:17 PM)

Was saying earlier today to a friend that I think that Gonzaga-Utah game is going to end up leaving a misleading impression of the two players. Not that Sabonis is a bad prospect, but Poeltl was the better college player over the last two years, and comfortably so. I have Sabonis projected in the late teens in terms of value but if the 3-point shooting he's showcased in workouts is legitimate, that could make the case for taking him higher.

Brian (Bay Area)

Would you advise the Lakers to take Bender over Ingram?
Kevin Pelton (3:31 PM)

Probably not. I have them in the same tier of prospects and Ingram is a better fit for the Lakers' needs and timeline.

Alan (Beirut)

Ford's latest mock draft is quite a shakeup. If Murray and Bender are both actually available at #5, who would you take if you ran the Wolves? And how much would either improve the team's prospects in coming years compared to what Dunn, Hield or Ellenson would provide?
Kevin Pelton (3:36 PM)

I would take Bender, but either is a better prospect than those other three in my book. How much would that improve the team's prospects? I dunno. What we don't know about draft picks outweighs what we do know, significantly so. But to me it would have a better expected outcome.

Charles (San Jose)

How much can Marquese Chriss' rebounding expect to improve as he puts on more muscle mass? Asking because unlike shooting, I don't remember a lot of players making great strides in this area as their careers progressed.
Kevin Pelton (3:37 PM)

On average, that's certainly not the case, but I'm sure there's some counterexamples out there. The other factor with Chriss that I've mentioned before is I'm not sure how much his defensive rebounding was affected by regularly switching out on the perimeter in UW's switch-heavy defense. That's something I would be trying to study if I were considering drafting Chriss.

Trev (Portland)

What is Henry Ellenson's ceiling? Seems like no fan base wants to talk about him because no one wants their team drafting him.
Kevin Pelton (3:59 PM)

At the risk of stereotyping, it probably looks a lot like Kevin Love, though Ellenson has the potential to be a far better rim protector.

Cole (Salt Lake)

Where is the best fit for Taurean Prince?
Kevin Pelton (4:00 PM)

I think the reason you draft Taurean Prince is if he develops into a 3-and-D player, he fits pretty much everywhere.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/52152

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[3rdside]

But again, I haven't seen any videos that are blowing me away.


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