2021 Training Camp Thread

[GatorAZ]

I’m excited but still don’t trust Kliff and Vance. That said the players should’ve been better down the stretch regardless of coaching. Maybe improved leadership of Watt (and losing PP) will help in that regard.

 

[tnmike]

Some people won't be satisfied unless the team goes 0-17

 

[Garthshort]

I've been watching this team since 1973. Past history hasn't been good, in fact very bad. But that is in the past. It's a new year and until the results start to come in I won't criticize

I've followed the team since 1947, and records aside, there were so many GREAT MEMORIES. And like Spring Training in baseball, this is the best time of year. JMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Playing in a much tougher division.

This... and we have a much worse coach this year compared to Arians.

also, I wasn’t making a side by side comparison of the two teams talent. On paper (and healthy) this team is much more talented. I’ve just got very little faith we have the coaching to be able to take advantage of it, if health permits.

that said, the ceiling for this team is much higher than the last ALL IN season. That all depends on Kyler making a big leap this year. That’s what gives me any kind of excitement and definitely distinguishes this team from the other. He’s definitely got generational talent. Question is can he convert that to becoming a generational player? We’ll see soon enough.

 

[slanidrac16]

I personally would like to discuss my team whether good or bad. If I wanted nothing but “we’re going to be great this year,” I would just read azcardinals.com stories.

TN has blasted me for being negative while voicing my opinion. I simply do not believe Watts, Green , Connor , Butler and others are suddenly going to have career years. IF I am correct, and I DON’T want to be, this could be a very underwhelming season.

 

[Arz101]

Kyler Murray has not looked good in the camp so far...what is a good time frame to start wondering why? No rah rah stores, many interceptions...is it just rust?

 

[cardsfanmd]

No Hopkins, Kirk, Green or Moore might stop the ball being completed. It doesn't stop it being on target.

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

 

[SoonerLou]

Kyler Murray has not looked good in the camp so far...what is a good time frame to start wondering why? No rah rah stores, many interceptions...is it just rust?

lol he had a bad practice without his top wrs relax.

Just last week it was more concern about how easy the offense was torching the defense.

 

[Solar7]

Some people won't be satisfied unless the team goes 0-17

I doubt anyone is wasting their time here hoping the team sucks. But there's enough of us here who have watched half a decade of mediocre at best football, and you start to wonder why you're investing the time into the hobby.

I'm certainly never changing teams, but I turn 35 in five days, and it's tough to muster unrelenting optimism with five playoff appearances in my existence, especially when we're trotting out a guy with a whopping two winning seasons of football in nearly a decade as head coach.

 

[blindseyed]

I'm wondering how much playing time the starters will get on Friday

 

[DVontel]

Kyler Murray has not looked good in the camp so far...what is a good time frame to start wondering why? No rah rah stores, many interceptions...is it just rust?

Idk, maybe when actual real games are being played?

 

[DVontel]

I doubt anyone is wasting their time here hoping the team sucks. But there's enough of us here who have watched half a decade of mediocre at best football, and you start to wonder why you're investing the time into the hobby.

I'm certainly never changing teams, but I turn 35 in five days, and it's tough to muster unrelenting optimism with five playoff appearances in my existence, especially when we're trotting out a guy with a whopping two winning seasons of football in nearly a decade as head coach.

You don’t slander Keim enough for me

 

[tnmike]

I doubt anyone is wasting their time here hoping the team sucks. But there's enough of us here who have watched half a decade of mediocre at best football, and you start to wonder why you're investing the time into the hobby.

I'm certainly never changing teams, but I turn 35 in five days, and it's tough to muster unrelenting optimism with five playoff appearances in my existence, especially when we're trotting out a guy with a whopping two winning seasons of football in nearly a decade as head coach.

I'm not questioning my investment but it sure seems that alot on here are. I've watched for almost 50 years and I won't quit until I croak.

 

[Goodyear Card]

Cardinals activate 2 from COVID list, place DT Xavier Williams on IR

The Cardinals lost one of their veteran defensive linemen for the season.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Krangodnzr]

Playing in a much tougher division.

I dont disagree, but there is an avenue for this team to be pretty good.

I think its mostly on Murray now.

The 49ers have health issues, and still don't have a great receiver corps and an aging offensive line. Despite all of the kudos, Shanahan has one winning season as head coach.

The Rams brought in Stafford but lost a ton of good defenders and an elite defensive coordinator. Losing Akers is a blow.

Seattle lost their starting corners, let KJ Wright go, and are relying on a ton of mediocre defensive players to get the job done.

 

[SoonerLou]

I cant quit you.

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I'd take Rosen over Strev. Guess you can practice squad him if possible.

 

[Solar7]

You don’t slander Keim enough for me

Haha, I should do it up more. Kliff is just the lowest hanging fruit. At least Keim has done something right in the past. I kinda feel like Keim is having some kind of personal issue that's caused his drop off. KK is just not a great coach on any level.

I'm not questioning my investment but it sure seems that alot on here are. I've watched for almost 50 years and I won't quit until I croak.

I guess it depends on the investment. The Cardinals are my favorite sports team, and football is my #1 hobby. I'm certainly not sitting on the ASU forum complaining, because I just don't care as much. And I love the Suns, but in the same sense, I'm just not as invested. The Finals loss hurt pretty bad, but I'm mostly past it, whereas the Cards Super Bowl loss ruined my entire year.

I'm sick and tired of "well we could have a good year if this, this, and this happen" as opposed to coming into the season with genuine confidence that we can compete, like many other teams in the league seem to be able to consistently say.

 

[SoonerLou]

I dont disagree, but there is an avenue for this team to be pretty good.

I think its mostly on Murray now.

The 49ers have health issues, and still don't have a great receiver corps and an aging offensive line. Despite all of the kudos, Shanahan has one winning season as head coach.

The Rams brought in Stafford but lost a ton of good defenders and an elite defensive coordinator. Losing Akers is a blow.

Seattle lost their starting corners, let KJ Wright go, and are relying on a ton of mediocre defensive players to get the job done.

Rams dbs been torched vs. the Cowboys really good wrs this week.

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Or maybe Ceedee is just that good, lol.

Still this might be the year to get them.

 

[DVontel]

Haha, I should do it up more. Kliff is just the lowest hanging fruit. At least Keim has done something right in the past. I kinda feel like Keim is having some kind of personal issue that's caused his drop off. KK is just not a great coach on any level.


I guess it depends on the investment. The Cardinals are my favorite sports team, and football is my #1 hobby. I'm certainly not sitting on the ASU forum complaining, because I just don't care as much. And I love the Suns, but in the same sense, I'm just not as invested. The Finals loss hurt pretty bad, but I'm mostly past it, whereas the Cards Super Bowl loss ruined my entire year.

I'm sick and tired of "well we could have a good year if this, this, and this happen" as opposed to coming into the season with genuine confidence that we can compete, like many other teams in the league seem to be able to consistently say.

I think Keim is the worst thing related to the organization right now. Well, really, it should be Bidwill since he refuses to fire him. Constant old FA signings, treating the CB position like it’s some low valuable position, the coaching hirings, etc. All of that points to one guy.

 

[Shane]

I doubt anyone is wasting their time here hoping the team sucks. But there's enough of us here who have watched half a decade of mediocre at best football, and you start to wonder why you're investing the time into the hobby.

I'm certainly never changing teams, but I turn 35 in five days, and it's tough to muster unrelenting optimism with five playoff appearances in my existence, especially when we're trotting out a guy with a whopping two winning seasons of football in nearly a decade as head coach.

You’re a rookie lol

 

[Goodyear Card]

Cardinals 53-man roster projections after 2 weeks of training camp

The Arizona Cardinals have their first preseason game this week. Here is how we think the roster stands heading into those games.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[SoonerLou]

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[JosiahLee]

I’m not concerned at all that Kyler or any part of the team doesn’t look “great” during training camp.

I remember when Wilks was coach and we looked fantastic all preseason and the hype was really building. If there was ever a season that proved the preseason doesn’t matter it was definitely that year for me.

Heck, none of the Rams starters play a single snap of preseason games (I know Kliff isn’t McVay but still).

Let’s play a couple September games before we get concerned.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I doubt anyone is wasting their time here hoping the team sucks. But there's enough of us here who have watched half a decade of mediocre at best football, and you start to wonder why you're investing the time into the hobby.

I'm certainly never changing teams, but I turn 35 in five days, and it's tough to muster unrelenting optimism with five playoff appearances in my existence, especially when we're trotting out a guy with a whopping two winning seasons of football in nearly a decade as head coach.

Then don’t?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The Cardinals are my favorite sports team, and football is my #1 hobby.

I'm sick and tired of "well we could have a good year if this, this, and this happen" as opposed to coming into the season with genuine confidence that we can compete, like many other teams in the league seem to be able to consistently say.

This

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

How many times has this team built up our hopes and dreams just to let us down?

So many times I can't put them all here

That's why so many of us are like, "show me".

We've been there before with all the smoke and mirrors

It does no good to look at the team in rose colored glasses and ignore all the flaws

If we can see the flaws and holes in the team it must be very apparent to opposing teams