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I don't know how people can see charts like this and still defend Keim with the "well everyone has some bad drafts" comment.
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SoonerLou
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Its possible Mike forced some of those picks. Where Keim may have wanted to go with his gut, but Mike went with the board. Seemed that way with the Allen pick. Grade was too high.
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In no way am I defending the FO here, but this seems very heavily weighted to our disastrous 2018 year.
Stout
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Can we cut this guy already? I mean, probably not while he's in protocol, but damn.
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K Johnson is my dark horse to make a huge leap this year.
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Lol.
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“Well everyone has bad takes”
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vibraslap
Welp there’s that.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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Man not only are the cards at the bottom, there’s a significant gap between them and the bengals for second worst.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
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You’re guessing that Mike forced keim to pick Allen? That’s some Olympic level gymnastics you’re engaged in to defend Keim.
No chance. They hyped him so hard his rookie year only for him to do jack squat that season. And honestly he flashed even less last year.
For some reason he is still on the team over guys like Trent Sherfield who actually made plays when given the opportunity.
Many of us don’t come to a conclusion. Many of us state how we feel we think the season may turn out. It’s a weighted opinion. For instance I don’t think Watts will deliver the expected return on the dollar. If that’s turns out to be true well then the defense won’t be quite as good as we all are hoping for.
What do both have in common? Owners who are too heavily involved in football decisions.
Stout
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That's why all this pre-season hype over Moore and others is so laughably dumb.
Sad, but true
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Thread stinks.
Krangodnzr
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In defense of the "hype", all of the local media are saying Moore is basically looking better than any rookie receiver since Boldin in camp.
And we are talking about a 2nd round pick from a power five school who was an All American his freshman year vs. a guy from a school that faced lesser competition.
So it's not "laughable", but proceed with some caution.
Stout
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Fair enough. We all take these things slightly different.
Chopper0080
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Agreed. Very little skepticism if he was a first rounder and tearing it up. 17 picks of separation from the first round. I believe it is ok to believe a bit of the hype in terms of talent. Health and size have always been the concerns and I don't see those going away until Moore shows that they are not issues.
Krangodnzr
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As @Chopper0080 said, the issue i see with Rondale Moore is availability. I bet my left nut the hype is real... but can he stay healthy?
Full disclosure I haven't read anything recently but no COVID discussion should be polluting this thread.
Everything COVID related goes in the single COVID thread. I will be removing all posts today and issuing short term bans for those who did so including this post.
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Never bet nuts to vouch for a Keim drafted player....
