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Revisiting the 2020 NBA Draft for a moment, Tyrese Haliburton says he did not force his way to the Kings.
The only two teams he didn't want to play for were Atlanta and Cleveland.
This should help clear up a lot of heated discussions on the Suns forum.
As I view it, it was a terrible blunder for the Suns not to draft him at #10. Tyrese Haliburton could have been the Suns PGOTF, actually star of the future.
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Atlanta makes sense with Trae Young there. Cleveland makes sense because it's Cleveland. Such a boneheaded move by so many teams but the Suns especially given our needs, history of developing All Star PG's, and Hali being the BPA when we picked.
Cleveland had Darius Garland and Collin Sexton prior to swinging the trade for Donovan Mitchell last fall so I get not wanting to go into a logjam situation.Atlanta makes sense with Trae Young there. Cleveland makes sense because it's Cleveland. Such a boneheaded move by so many teams but the Suns especially given our needs, history of developing All Star PG's, and Hali being the BPA when we picked.
That runs counter to what we heard on draft night but if this is true, what a screw up on our part. And for the Spurs who also passed on him for supposedly the same reason.Revisiting the 2020 NBA Draft for a moment, Tyrese Haliburton says he did not force his way to the Kings.
The only two teams he didn't want to play for were Atlanta and Cleveland.
This should help clear up a lot of heated discussions on the Suns forum.
As I view it, it was a terrible blunder for the Suns not to draft him at #10. Tyrese Haliburton could have been the Suns PGOTF, actually star of the future.
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That runs counter to what we heard on draft night but if this is true, what a screw up on our part. And for the Spurs who also passed on him for supposedly the same reason.
That runs counter to what we heard on draft night but if this is true, what a screw up on our part. And for the Spurs who also passed on him for supposedly the same reason.
This bungle (among a few others) is primarily why I have lost any enthusiasm I may have once had for James Jones being the Suns GM. I have to admit that I hope that Ishbia considers moving on from him soon if they don't somehow win it all this year.Only James Jones and some other GMs know for sure.
Still, I think the Suns should have drafted the BPA at #10 (Haliburton) in the 2020 draft rather than reach for a developmental player.
Also, James Jones could have traded down or out of the draft if he didn't like his choices.
That runs counter to what we heard on draft night but if this is true, what a screw up on our part. And for the Spurs who also passed on him for supposedly the same reason.
To be fair, just from a position standpoint, we were both looking for PG and PF. With us having a vet PG on the roster, arguably PF was more of a need. Again, not looking at players, just positions.
Except, in the history of the Suns, sometimes we would have 3-4 PGs that would start on any roster, because we kept drafting, trading and getting them in free agency, but we couldn't get a decent center to save our butts. Sometimes need outweighs BPA. Right now we could use a good rebounding big as our fifth starter to help on the boards. We are a small team outside Nurkic. So we are back at the PF conundrum again. KD is that guy when playing, but we are still looking for that guy when KD isn't in the lineup. Heck against big teams it would still be great to have KD, Booker, Beal, Nurkic and a big rebounding player X.Drafting for need over BPA seldom works out.
When you are completely stacked at a position that the BPA belongs to than you trade out of the spot IMO. Of course this is not really a factor with Hali as we were not stacked at PG when we passed on him.Except, in the history of the Suns, sometimes we would have 3-4 PGs that would start on any roster, because we kept drafting, trading and getting them in free agency, but we couldn't get a decent center to save our butts. Sometimes need outweighs BPA. Right now we could use a good rebounding big as our fifth starter to help on the boards. We are a small team outside Nurkic. So we are back at the PF conundrum again. KD is that guy when playing, but we are still looking for that guy when KD isn't in the lineup. Heck against big teams it would still be great to have KD, Booker, Beal, Nurkic and a big rebounding player X.
Except, in the history of the Suns, sometimes we would have 3-4 PGs that would start on any roster, because we kept drafting, trading and getting them in free agency, but we couldn't get a decent center to save our butts. Sometimes need outweighs BPA. Right now we could use a good rebounding big as our fifth starter to help on the boards. We are a small team outside Nurkic. So we are back at the PF conundrum again. KD is that guy when playing, but we are still looking for that guy when KD isn't in the lineup. Heck against big teams it would still be great to have KD, Booker, Beal, Nurkic and a big rebounding player X.
Yeah you don't use the draft to balance your roster, you do that with signings and trades. If there's a clear BPA, you have to take him even if it creates a logjam.Drafting for need over BPA seldom works out.
Yeah, they went slow and steady. We probably should have gone that route too but let's face it, after a decade of being the laughing stock of the league, I can understand why we tried to advance our timeline with CP3. It didn't help that we caught very few breaks with the draft lottery and then failed to make the best out of what was available.OKC’s 3 best players are 25 or younger, they’re 2nd in net rating and 1st in 3pt shooting. They have cap space to use and multiple 1st rd picks every year until 2030. Wild.
OKC’s 3 best players are 25 or younger, they’re 2nd in net rating and 1st in 3pt shooting. They have cap space to use and multiple 1st rd picks every year until 2030. Wild.
Disagree. Most of the really bad trade and draft decisions this franchise made prior to the Sarver era were attempts to make us bigger and stronger in the middle. For whatever reason, we were much better at identifying shooters and playmakers and struck out whenever we went after some inside muscle.Except, in the history of the Suns, sometimes we would have 3-4 PGs that would start on any roster, because we kept drafting, trading and getting them in free agency, but we couldn't get a decent center to save our butts. Sometimes need outweighs BPA. Right now we could use a good rebounding big as our fifth starter to help on the boards. We are a small team outside Nurkic. So we are back at the PF conundrum again. KD is that guy when playing, but we are still looking for that guy when KD isn't in the lineup. Heck against big teams it would still be great to have KD, Booker, Beal, Nurkic and a big rebounding player X.
Disagree. Most of the really bad trade and draft decisions this franchise made prior to the Sarver era were attempts to make us bigger and stronger in the middle. For whatever reason, we were much better at identifying shooters and playmakers and struck out whenever we went after some inside muscle.
Welp…I hope the Pacers are able to blow the Lakers out.