All quiet on Washington front

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LOL, I just know Dwash isn't a good football player. He has talent in speed, but that's it. His instincts suck and when age sets in his asset, which is speed, will decline exponentially. That's just a fact.

I've said before, I don't really care if he plays for us. I'd actually prefer he didn't. We're fine without him.
Lol, he isn't a good football player? Come on now. How many starters are there in the NFL who suck at football but make a roster just for their speed? Dwash has been a stud when on the field.

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I doubt most of that. He does make splash plays. Agree with that. But Keim can get a lot of players to make splash sudden plays. So what? Dwash wasn't a captain, didn't run the defense, all he did was make sudden plays when pointed in the right direction by an actual captain of the D. He's older now, and is just going to get older, obviously, and so his speed won't amount to much going forward.

Has anyone even heard Dwash say he wants to play football? That he misses his teammates? That he misses the competition? I haven't heard any of that.

You guys care more about him playing than he cares about playing.
So because he doesn't go on twitter and vocalize, he doesn't care?

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I think you underrate DWashout as much as some overate him. He makes Splash/Flash plays which are rather impressive but I do agree he isn't very instinctive. His speed is a difference maker and he can blitz very well. His ability to rush/spy Wilson and Kap does make a HUGE difference.

Maybe teams don't game plan for him but he is a big part of our DC's game plan to negatively impact the opponents QB play.

You mean he does not initially diagnose plays very well because he is very instinctive or one could not say he could spy a spontaneous QB like Wilson and Kap :)
 

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I do, and have watched all Cardinals games since they moved here and before. Wash isn't anything special. We all love his speed, but that's really all he has going for him. His instincts aren't exceptional, not even above average frankly. He does well when they point him in a direction to run and run fast, but without that he's not much.

He didn't even captain our defense without LOS. It's not like he's putting players in positions to succeed. And if you want to compare him with LOS and without, somehow stating that LOS was better with him, I totally disagree--he was better and had a bigger impact when LOS was telling him what the hell to do, so they all looked better, that's the captains job, but it wasn't Wash's job. LOS is 10X the LB of Washington.

Wash can't even lead our current group of LB's, as thin as we are. If you point him and give him limited responsibilities, he can do well, given his athleticism and speed. Without all that he's just an undersized LB without a clue.

(edit: anyone who thinks opponents are game planning for Wash are delusional)

Did Dwash push you down the stairs too?
 

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Absolutely for sure Dansby is 10X the LB Wash is. Without a doubt. But I appreciate the free stash.
I'm as big a Dansby fan as anyone but let's not get carried away. You're acting like DWash is an Orlando Huff type LB. Washington is very good in his own right.
 

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ESPN's John Clayton was on the Doug & Wolf show this morning (Friday). They talked about why the NFLPA has been quiet on this. All felt it was because DWash hasn't met his obligations under the suspension. They feel that DWash will not be playing this season. Again, all is speculation.
 
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ESPN's John Clayton was on the Doug & Wolf show this morning (Friday). They talked about why the NFLPA has been quiet on this. All felt it was because DWash hasn't met his obligations under the suspension. They feel that DWash will not be playing this season. Again, all is speculation.


If he's met his obligations for having his sentence reduced, I'd have to imagine he's also met his requirements for the league. They were swift in denying Blackmon's reinstatement. I contend that it has something to do with the DV situation and sorting out that mess
 

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If he's met his obligations for having his sentence reduced, I'd have to imagine he's also met his requirements for the league. They were swift in denying Blackmon's reinstatement. I contend that it has something to do with the DV situation and sorting out that mess

That doesn't explain why the NFLPA isn't getting involved. It's quite possible that Daryl Washington's application has already been denied, and he hasn't put the word out yet.
 

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That doesn't explain why the NFLPA isn't getting involved. It's quite possible that Daryl Washington's application has already been denied, and he hasn't put the word out yet.


I highly doubt that. Word would've leaked by now if it were denied.
 

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Why? Daryl Washington isn't a high-profile player. He's kept nearly every stage of this process mum.

Because at a certain point, the teams need to be informed of the league decision so they can make appropriate personnel decisions; and with that, the information would be leaked to the media. Granted, he is more or less a lower-profile figure, Schefter would still report on it once he gets word; and the trio of local beat writers normally have a pulse on what occurs.

Either way, it's still a "we'll see" situation.
 

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Why? Daryl Washington isn't a high-profile player. He's kept nearly every stage of this process mum.

I've got to believe the team is notified at the same time the player is.
 

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Because at a certain point, the teams need to be informed of the league decision so they can make appropriate personnel decisions; and with that, the information would be leaked to the media. Granted, he is more or less a lower-profile figure, Schefter would still report on it once he gets word; and the trio of local beat writers normally have a pulse on what occurs.

Either way, it's still a "we'll see" situation.

Why? What's going to happen? Are the Cards going to pass on a Pro Bowl ILB available in late July?

The NFL decision is that Daryl Washington is suspended indefinitely. :shrug:

No one puts out a press release to say, "Daryl Washington is still suspended by the NFL." The NFL has no upside in saying that Washington's application was rejected.
 

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i like how everyone states their speculation as fact.

I was just reading a link to an opinion piece on Facebook. The person stated that the views of the person were "Facts that can't be argued". Apparently teachers all over the country failed to teach the "Determine Fact vs Opinion" standard well.
 

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I've got to believe the team is notified at the same time the player is.

Maybe, but it certainly seemed like the Cards had no idea when Washington applied for re-instatement, and they were as surprised as anyone when Daryl was suspended (good on D-Wash for not telling the team when he bailed on a couple of drug tests after being in the program).
 

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You mean he does not initially diagnose plays very well because he is very instinctive or one could not say he could spy a spontaneous QB like Wilson and Kap :)

Maybe instinctive needs to be clarified?

I've seen DWashout shoot a gap at the snap of the ball and tackle the RB behind the line of scrimmage. Is that instinctive or did he study film and diagnosed the play or did LOS tell him to shoot the gap?

His spying of Wilson doesn't take instincts, does it. What I recall was his doing a mush rush which basically meant he was making sure Wilson couldn't get out of the pocket.
 

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Why? What's going to happen? Are the Cards going to pass on a Pro Bowl ILB available in late July?

The NFL decision is that Daryl Washington is suspended indefinitely. :shrug:

No one puts out a press release to say, "Daryl Washington is still suspended by the NFL." The NFL has no upside in saying that Washington's application was rejected.

Or whether or not to cut him.

It's quite unprofessional for the league to deny an application and then not say anything. It seems rather ridiculous to just let an application for reinstatement sit on a desk without a decision one way or another and the NFLPA just allowing that to happen.
 
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Or whether or not to cut him.

It's quite unprofessional for the league to deny an application and then not say anything. It seems rather ridiculous to just let an application for reinstatement sit on a desk without a decision one way or another and the NFLPA just allowing that to happen.

I agree. Doesn't it make more sense that Washington has been informed of the NFL's decision and he hasn't told anyone? Washington hasn't been very professional about informing his employers of important facts in the past.

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No, it doesn't.

yeah... I don't see how that makes any sense.

So... It makes more sense to you that both the NFL and NFLPA are being unprofessional than the guy who's failed or missed 5 DRUG TESTS AND SURRENDERED $3M IN SALARY?

What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?
 

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