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So... It makes more sense to you that both the NFL and NFLPA are being unprofessional than the guy who's failed or missed 5 DRUG TESTS AND SURRENDERED $3M IN SALARY?

Actually, yes.
 

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So... It makes more sense to you that both the NFL and NFLPA are being unprofessional than the guy who's failed or missed 5 DRUG TESTS AND SURRENDERED $3M IN SALARY?

What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?

I guess you haven't heard about the NFL that ignores their own rules, due process and judges decisions and still continues to punish people for conduct that occurred prior to new rules being passed, only to have these punishments repeatedly overturned.

Yes, I believe that. It is NOT easy to get your probation terminated early AND get your crime designated a misdemeanor. . One screw up will stop it. ONE.
 

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So... It makes more sense to you that both the NFL and NFLPA are being unprofessional than the guy who's failed or missed 5 DRUG TESTS AND SURRENDERED $3M IN SALARY?

What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?

Kerouac, this is almost a decent argument. The problem is that laws and rules change. Soon, marijuana will be equivalent with alcohol, as pertains to, the penalty and perception. At this point, we have no idea what the NFL or NFLPA is doing behind the scenes. We don't know how things are truly dealt with behind the scenes.

The most obvious and egregious argument that you made was in the form of a question...very odd, "What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?"

No one has ever said that he decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL. That is blatant conjecture and near slander of a mans character. He may need help. Maybe he is receiving it. The man is 28 at the end of his immature ways. That is pretty good in most professions.

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It is NOT easy to get your probation terminated early AND get your crime designated a misdemeanor. . One screw up will stop it. ONE.
Sure it is, particularly if you have no priors and you're a multi-millionaire.

Ray Rice did it.
 
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Kerouac, this is almost a decent argument. The problem is that laws and rules change. Soon, marijuana will be equivalent with alcohol, as pertains to, the penalty and perception. At this point, we have no idea what the NFL or NFLPA is doing behind the scenes. We don't know how things are truly dealt with behind the scenes.

The most obvious and egregious argument that you made was in the form of a question...very odd, "What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?"

No one has ever said that he decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL. That is blatant conjecture and near slander of a mans character. He may need help. Maybe he is receiving it. The man is 28 at the end of his immature ways. That is pretty good in most professions.

#FREE DWASH

I dunno. You have to fail or miss like five tests to get banned for at least a year. At some point, a guy has to take personal responsibility and say that they made some terrible decisions and their priorities aren't in order. He may not have said it, but his actions demonstrated it.

Here's what Daryl said when he was suspended...

""I was always taught that when you make a mistake, you admit it, learn from it and face whatever consequences there are. I take full responsibility and I understand that I let down my teammates, the organization and fans. I apologize for that and promise that no one will work harder to make up for it."

Oh. Wait. That's what he said when he was suspended the first time.

THIS TIME, he's definitely gotten the message.
 

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THIS TIME, he's definitely gotten the message.

Smoking pot is how Washington dealt with stuff. It is a coping mechanism for him. Once someone is using a crutch like that they rarely drop it forever, no matter the job, money or relationships they have. Hopefully he truly has figured out how to live without it. We'll see.
 

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Smoking pot is how Washington dealt with stuff. It is a coping mechanism for him. Once someone is using a crutch like that they rarely drop it forever, no matter the job, money or relationships they have. Hopefully he truly has figured out how to live without it. We'll see.



or at least be smart enough to leave it alone for a while when you have a test coming.....
 

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So... It makes more sense to you that both the NFL and NFLPA are being unprofessional than the guy who's failed or missed 5 DRUG TESTS AND SURRENDERED $3M IN SALARY?

What's the upside for the Cards or the NFL to say that this guy decided that pot is more important than playing in the NFL?

if the guy was suspended again, and the Cards knew about it, I think they would have cut bait by now.
 

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if the guy was suspended again, and the Cards knew about it, I think they would have cut bait by now.

He hasn't been not suspended for the last 14 months. The Cards also just cut him a seven-figure check two months ago. What's the upside in cutting him right now?
 

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I'm guessing that there will be NO DW news until the day that the NFL rules on Brady's appeal, with the decision on DW listed as a footnote.
 

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I'm guessing that there will be NO DW news until the day that the NFL rules on Brady's appeal, with the decision on DW listed as a footnote.

It's a logic error to believe that – after the NFL announced a slew of suspension last Friday – that the league is for some reason waiting on Brady to reinstate Washington.

Some folks need to apply Occam's Razor and think about why there hasn't been any news about Washington's suspension and the NFLPA isn't saying a thing about it. Even the local beat writers aren't saying anything about it – like they're trying to shove the whole thing down the memory hole. It's worth remembering that it wasn't a Jaguars reporter that published that Blackmon's appeal had been rejected – it was an Oklahoma writer.
 

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It's a logic error to believe that – after the NFL announced a slew of suspension last Friday – that the league is for some reason waiting on Brady to reinstate Washington.

Some folks need to apply Occam's Razor and think about why there hasn't been any news about Washington's suspension and the NFLPA isn't saying a thing about it. Even the local beat writers aren't saying anything about it – like they're trying to shove the whole thing down the memory hole. It's worth remembering that it wasn't a Jaguars reporter that published that Blackmon's appeal had been rejected – it was an Oklahoma writer.
Starting to agree with this. The NFL doesn't have to make an announcement that they are not re-instating him and just leave him on the suspended list.

Washington hasn't appealed anything, only applied. I suppose the only statement the NFL would have to make is when/if he is re-instated. By doing nothing, he just remains suspended until he's not.
 

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It's a logic error to believe that – after the NFL announced a slew of suspension last Friday – that the league is for some reason waiting on Brady to reinstate Washington.

Some folks need to apply Occam's Razor and think about why there hasn't been any news about Washington's suspension and the NFLPA isn't saying a thing about it. Even the local beat writers aren't saying anything about it – like they're trying to shove the whole thing down the memory hole. It's worth remembering that it wasn't a Jaguars reporter that published that Blackmon's appeal had been rejected – it was an Oklahoma writer.

I have and using the principle that among competing hypotheses that predict equally well, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected, leads me to believe he'll be reinstated.

What we know is that the team paid him the second half of his bonus. If they truly feared he would not be reinstated, why not withhold it, force him to sue and by virtue of this approach cut him lose?

We know that he was subject to League drug testing throughout his suspension.

We know that drug testing was part of the court's initial decision in the DV case.

We can assume that he passed the court's mandated tests as his case was reduced to a misdemeanor and his probation reduced from 12 to 10 months.

All parties are subject to a "gag" rule as to where things stand at any given moment.

No news.. is just that... no news.
 
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It's a logic error to believe that – after the NFL announced a slew of suspension last Friday – that the league is for some reason waiting on Brady to reinstate Washington.



Some folks need to apply Occam's Razor and think about why there hasn't been any news about Washington's suspension and the NFLPA isn't saying a thing about it. Even the local beat writers aren't saying anything about it – like they're trying to shove the whole thing down the memory hole. It's worth remembering that it wasn't a Jaguars reporter that published that Blackmon's appeal had been rejected – it was an Oklahoma writer.


Hogwash. Local beat writers don't make money or get attention by shoving things down memory lane. They're just as motivated to find out what's going on as us fans.

I'm not going to apply Occam's Razor because that's lazy interpretation of a situation where little of substance has surfaced. There are too many confounding variables to make a concrete assumption.
 
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Hogwash. Local beat writers don't make money or get attention by shoving things down memory lane. They're just as motivated to find out what's going on as us fans.

I'm not going to apply Occam's Razor because that's lazy interpretation of a situation where little of substance has surfaced. There are too many confounding variables to make a concrete assumption.

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no news is definately not good news

there is something up there ---
 

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we'll see. I'm not that concerned. the team is prepping like he wont be here so if hes not, no sweat.
 

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So close to training camp, something stinks here. I'm starting to think he's not going to get reinstated. This should already have been resolved.
 

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or at least be smart enough to leave it alone for a while when you have a test coming.....

Drug abuse has very little correlation with intelligence, the way most people think of it. Most people think, "drug abusers are freaking stupid." This is maybe the most common misconception of drug abuse. Drug abuse is emotional, not rational. Anyone smoking pot with millions on the line possibly, has made an emotional decision, not a rational one.

Don't believe me, scads of recent research on it.....

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=drug abuse and intelligence

Note: there is a distinct difference between use and abuse and IQ. Higher IQs are more prone to abuse, but less likely to use.
 
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I've been wrong on this all along, so I have NO IDEA on what's going on. DW's agent's silence is the most mystifying. Team, imo, is being insulted by the NFL, who seems to have issued a gag on the team.
 
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