All quiet on Washington front

[TimTheToolmanTebow]

Dwash = living god

 

[GuernseyCard]

Weinfuss couldn't verify how often Washington was being tested, if at all.

Probation included testing. Ergo the reduction from 12 to 10 months more than suggests he did not fail a test.

 

[Darkside]

You guys act like Wash would put us over the top. That's a joke. We did fine without him. He wasn't even a captain when he was playing. He wasn't calling out plays and adjusting players. He was given orders and followed them, like any other player. Frankly, his best year was with LOS beside him. I miss LOS frankly. Really do, best LB we ever had, both times. Way better than Wash. Way. Wash isn't a player who will put us over the top and frankly may hurt our team. I hear all these players talking about team, but I don't hear DWash even saying he misses football and wants to play.

Honestly, my worst fear is that he's cleared to play and gets inserted into the lineup and messes it all up. I'm ready to move on and have been ready to move on.

He doesn't provide anything for our team. Ya'll talk about his physical characteristics, but after a couple years off, all he had going for him was speed and instincts. Doesn't mean he knows football at all.

I honestly don't want him back. I don't even think he can help our team the way ya'll do. I really don't.

He can't be trusted, he's not a captain and never was, he never called our defensive plays, he never did anything but speed rush. So what?

He's the ******* that got hurdled by the Cinci dude, who did a 360 in the air, while Wash was lunging with his shoulder instead of wrapping the dude, that's the highlight.

I really don't care. And I'll honestly be saddened when he returns to the team, we'll be fine without him and won't be better with him. We will not be better with him.

 

[TJ]

You guys act like Wash would put us over the top. That's a joke. We did fine without him. He wasn't even a captain when he was playing. He wasn't calling out plays and adjusting players. He was given orders and followed them, like any other player. Frankly, his best year was with LOS beside him. I miss LOS frankly. Really do, best LB we ever had, both times. Way better than Wash. Way. Wash isn't a player who will put us over the top and frankly may hurt our team. I hear all these players talking about team, but I don't hear DWash even saying he misses football and wants to play.

Honestly, my worst fear is that he's cleared to play and gets inserted into the lineup and messes it all up. I'm ready to move on and have been ready to move on.

He doesn't provide anything for our team. Ya'll talk about his physical characteristics, but after a couple years off, all he had going for him was speed and instincts. Doesn't mean he knows football at all.

I honestly don't want him back. I don't even think he can help our team the way ya'll do. I really don't.

He can't be trusted, he's not a captain and never was, he never called our defensive plays, he never did anything but speed rush. So what?

He's the ******* that got hurdled by the Cinci dude, who did a 360 in the air, while Wash was lunging with his shoulder instead of wrapping the dude, that's the highlight.

I really don't care. And I'll honestly be saddened when he returns to the team, we'll be fine without him and won't be better with him. We will not be better with him.

So you were satisfied with how well the defense wrapped up Wilson, Kaep, and Cam with our athletic line backing corp last season?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You guys act like Wash would put us over the top. That's a joke. We did fine without him. He wasn't even a captain when he was playing. He wasn't calling out plays and adjusting players. He was given orders and followed them, like any other player. Frankly, his best year was with LOS beside him. I miss LOS frankly. Really do, best LB we ever had, both times. Way better than Wash. Way. Wash isn't a player who will put us over the top and frankly may hurt our team. I hear all these players talking about team, but I don't hear DWash even saying he misses football and wants to play.

Honestly, my worst fear is that he's cleared to play and gets inserted into the lineup and messes it all up. I'm ready to move on and have been ready to move on.

He doesn't provide anything for our team. Ya'll talk about his physical characteristics, but after a couple years off, all he had going for him was speed and instincts. Doesn't mean he knows football at all.

I honestly don't want him back. I don't even think he can help our team the way ya'll do. I really don't.

He can't be trusted, he's not a captain and never was, he never called our defensive plays, he never did anything but speed rush. So what?

He's the ******* that got hurdled by the Cinci dude, who did a 360 in the air, while Wash was lunging with his shoulder instead of wrapping the dude, that's the highlight.

I really don't care. And I'll honestly be saddened when he returns to the team, we'll be fine without him and won't be better with him. We will not be better with him.

The Cards will be better with him. He's easily the most talented LB on the team and the offense has to account for him every play. I doubt there's many OC's worrying about how to block the likes of Kevin Minter and Lorenzo Alexander. If they don't account for Washington, the offense is in trouble.

I agree he's a POS off the field but you can't question his talent on the field.

 

[ajcardfan]

They might know stuff where he did not get arrested... meaning it is not public record which most clubs keep in house, and what is not known is enough for them to say why bother counting on him

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. If that is true, we'll probably never know for sure.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. If that is true, we'll probably never know for sure.

All I know is that I see this happen often when a team cuts a guy. Whether it be professional courtesy to the player or protecting the reputation of a franchise, a guy gets cut for no apparent reason and then that reason rears its ugly head on another team with no prior arrests... I sincerely hope this is not the case with Washington because I am a Cardinal fan lol

 

[LittleDavis]

Maybe DWash is going to be the poster child of rehabilitation. Wait until close to camp and reinstate him with a 0-2 game suspension and let his story be told. He did everything legally to prove that he could, at least, be responsible there. maybe he has turned his life around and will play with a chip on his shoulder...yep, that is my hope.

FREEEE DWASH

GOOOOO CARDSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[GuernseyCard]

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. If that is true, we'll probably never know for sure.

Then why pay him the second half of his bonus?

Better to hold on to the money and force him to sue.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

He doesn't provide anything for our team. Ya'll talk about his physical characteristics, but after a couple years off, all he had going for him was speed and instincts. Doesn't mean he knows football at all.

I honestly don't want him back. I don't even think he can help our team the way ya'll do. I really don't.

Do you even watch the games? Why don't you go back to the 2013 season and check out how the Cards D (and specifically Dansby) perform with and without Washington.

To say Washington wouldn't be the best or a top 3 player on our D is ridiculous.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is annoying

 

[BigRedRage]

Do you even watch the games? Why don't you go back to the 2013 season and check out how the Cards D (and specifically Dansby) perform with and without Washington.

To say Washington wouldn't be the best or a top 3 player on our D is ridiculous.

When he was active, he might have been our best and if in shape, no reason he cannot dominate again. Totally agree

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[TJ]

Do you even watch the games? Why don't you go back to the 2013 season and check out how the Cards D (and specifically Dansby) perform with and without Washington.

To say Washington wouldn't be the best or a top 3 player on our D is ridiculous.

Agree. Any given Sunday, the best player on the defense is either PP21, CC, or D-Wash. D-Wash especially when he spies mobile QBs like Wilson. Weeks 16, 17 and the playoff game are more than enough evidence to show that the defense REALLY missed him.

 

[kerouac9]

The Cards will be better with him. He's easily the most talented LB on the team and the offense has to account for him every play. I doubt there's many OC's worrying about how to block the likes of Kevin Minter and Lorenzo Alexander. If they don't account for Washington, the offense is in trouble.

I agree he's a POS off the field but you can't question his talent on the field.

No one's a bigger Daryl Washington Truther than I am, and I mostly agree with this. Washington, when available, is the only dynamic defensive talent capable of changing a game on the starting defense outside of Patrick Peterson.

I don't believe that Washington fulfills the above, if only because he's not as good as you might think in pass coverage. The most passes defensed he's had was in 2013 with 10—in the same year that Dansby had 19 in the same defense. Washington can't really contain top tight ends, and that's the one thing aside from being a terrible teammate and non-leader that holds him back from being the among the top ILBs in the league.

You can make a legit argument that Daryl isn't among the top 3 ILBs IN THE NFC WEST, but we'll have to see how well Navarro Bowman comes back from his injury.

 

[Darkside]

Do you even watch the games? Why don't you go back to the 2013 season and check out how the Cards D (and specifically Dansby) perform with and without Washington.

To say Washington wouldn't be the best or a top 3 player on our D is ridiculous.

I do, and have watched all Cardinals games since they moved here and before. Wash isn't anything special. We all love his speed, but that's really all he has going for him. His instincts aren't exceptional, not even above average frankly. He does well when they point him in a direction to run and run fast, but without that he's not much.

He didn't even captain our defense without LOS. It's not like he's putting players in positions to succeed. And if you want to compare him with LOS and without, somehow stating that LOS was better with him, I totally disagree--he was better and had a bigger impact when LOS was telling him what the hell to do, so they all looked better, that's the captains job, but it wasn't Wash's job. LOS is 10X the LB of Washington.

Wash can't even lead our current group of LB's, as thin as we are. If you point him and give him limited responsibilities, he can do well, given his athleticism and speed. Without all that he's just an undersized LB without a clue.

(edit: anyone who thinks opponents are game planning for Wash are delusional)

 

[TJ]

I do, and have watched all Cardinals games since they moved here and before. Wash isn't anything special. We all love his speed, but that's really all he has going for him. His instincts aren't exceptional, not even above average frankly. He does well when they point him in a direction to run and run fast, but without that he's not much.

He didn't even captain our defense without LOS. It's not like he's putting players in positions to succeed. And if you want to compare him with LOS and without, somehow stating that LOS was better with him, I totally disagree--he was better and had a bigger impact when LOS was telling him what the hell to do, so they all looked better, that's the captains job, but it wasn't Wash's job. LOS is 10X the LB of Washington.

Wash can't even lead our current group of LB's, as thin as we are. If you point him and give him limited responsibilities, he can do well, given his athleticism and speed. Without all that he's just an undersized LB without a clue.

(edit: anyone who thinks opponents are game planning for Wash are delusional)

Dansby is 10x the linebacker Washington is? Teams don't game plan for Washington? Just stop posting in this thread.

No wonder D-Wash has passed all of his probation drug tests--you smoked his entire stash.

 

[Cardiac]

I do, and have watched all Cardinals games since they moved here and before. Wash isn't anything special. We all love his speed, but that's really all he has going for him. His instincts aren't exceptional, not even above average frankly. He does well when they point him in a direction to run and run fast, but without that he's not much.

He didn't even captain our defense without LOS. It's not like he's putting players in positions to succeed. And if you want to compare him with LOS and without, somehow stating that LOS was better with him, I totally disagree--he was better and had a bigger impact when LOS was telling him what the hell to do, so they all looked better, that's the captains job, but it wasn't Wash's job. LOS is 10X the LB of Washington.

Wash can't even lead our current group of LB's, as thin as we are. If you point him and give him limited responsibilities, he can do well, given his athleticism and speed. Without all that he's just an undersized LB without a clue.

(edit: anyone who thinks opponents are game planning for Wash are delusional)

I think you underrate DWashout as much as some overate him. He makes Splash/Flash plays which are rather impressive but I do agree he isn't very instinctive. His speed is a difference maker and he can blitz very well. His ability to rush/spy Wilson and Kap does make a HUGE difference.

Maybe teams don't game plan for him but he is a big part of our DC's game plan to negatively impact the opponents QB play.

 

[splitsecond]

Did K9 take over Darkside's account for the day?

 

[Darkside]

Dansby is 10x the linebacker Washington is? Teams don't game plan for Washington? Just stop posting in this thread.

No wonder D-Wash has passed all of his probation drug tests--you smoked his entire stash.

Absolutely for sure Dansby is 10X the LB Wash is. Without a doubt. But I appreciate the free stash.

 

[Darkside]

Did K9 take over Darkside's account for the day?

LOL, I just know Dwash isn't a good football player. He has talent in speed, but that's it. His instincts suck and when age sets in his asset, which is speed, will decline exponentially. That's just a fact.

I've said before, I don't really care if he plays for us. I'd actually prefer he didn't. We're fine without him.

 

[Darkside]

I think you underrate DWashout as much as some overate him. He makes Splash/Flash plays which are rather impressive but I do agree he isn't very instinctive. His speed is a difference maker and he can blitz very well. His ability to rush/spy Wilson and Kap does make a HUGE difference.

Maybe teams don't game plan for him but he is a big part of our DC's game plan to negatively impact the opponents QB play.

I doubt most of that. He does make splash plays. Agree with that. But Keim can get a lot of players to make splash sudden plays. So what? Dwash wasn't a captain, didn't run the defense, all he did was make sudden plays when pointed in the right direction by an actual captain of the D. He's older now, and is just going to get older, obviously, and so his speed won't amount to much going forward.

Has anyone even heard Dwash say he wants to play football? That he misses his teammates? That he misses the competition? I haven't heard any of that.

You guys care more about him playing than he cares about playing.

 

[LittleDavis]

I doubt most of that. He does make splash plays. Agree with that. But Keim can get a lot of players to make splash sudden plays. So what? Dwash wasn't a captain, didn't run the defense, all he did was make sudden plays when pointed in the right direction by an actual captain of the D. He's older now, and is just going to get older, obviously, and so his speed won't amount to much going forward.

Has anyone even heard Dwash say he wants to play football? That he misses his teammates? That he misses the competition? I haven't heard any of that.

You guys care more about him playing than he cares about playing.

Your argument is a bucket full of holes and a ridiculously subjective assessment. Check his stats...that is a great 4 year start to a career. He is better than what they show. Will he be a Blackmon...who knows. His trouble was that he smoked weed and failed a test...pushed his girlfriend and she fell down and broke her collarbone...bad stuff...yes! but he didn't throw a woman on a bed of guns in a psychotic craze. He didn't get arrested sitting in his car with a bag of weed. Actually, I know little about DWash the man...an enigma.

He was obviously not mature enough for the professional responsibilities of the NFL... and at the end of the day...is the only one that will have to look in the mirror and accept that he didn't maximize his talents. I, as a fan, am not going to judge him.

If he is mature and dedicated than I believe he will pick right up where he left off. The guy is a physical freak and you cannot just replace that. He was on the verge of being a known perennial pro bowler. Again, i love the way he plays the game and he makes the defense play faster...and that is true.

#FREE DWASH

 

[LittleDavis]

LOL, I just know Dwash isn't a good football player. He has talent in speed, but that's it. His instincts suck and when age sets in his asset, which is speed, will decline exponentially. That's just a fact.

I've said before, I don't really care if he plays for us. I'd actually prefer he didn't. We're fine without him.

Talent in speed?
Instincts suck?
DWASH isn't a good football player?

You are either a ten year old or you are bored and trying to get a rise out of people. Hmmmm.

 

[DVontel]

D.Wash is a ******* player off the field but he's a great player on the field & we're much better with him on the team. Him & Calais are the 2 most important players on our defense.

 

[Darkside]

Your argument is a bucket full of holes and a ridiculously subjective assessment. Check his stats...that is a great 4 year start to a career. He is better than what they show. Will he be a Blackmon...who knows. His trouble was that he smoked weed and failed a test...pushed his girlfriend and she fell down and broke her collarbone...bad stuff...yes! but he didn't throw a woman on a bed of guns in a psychotic craze. He didn't get arrested sitting in his car with a bag of weed. Actually, I know little about DWash the man...an enigma.

He was obviously not mature enough for the professional responsibilities of the NFL... and at the end of the day...is the only one that will have to look in the mirror and accept that he didn't maximize his talents. I, as a fan, am not going to judge him.

If he is mature and dedicated than I believe he will pick right up where he left off. The guy is a physical freak and you cannot just replace that. He was on the verge of being a known perennial pro bowler. Again, i love the way he plays the game and he makes the defense play faster...and that is true.

#FREE DWASH

I like your post. Well said.