All quiet on Washington front

[Cbus cardsfan]

No, he doesn't. And he hasn't even been doing his full responsibility to join the team as soon as possible, because he delayed submitting his paperwork(!) for reinstatement by more than a month. Maybe he'll turn his life around and he'll come back and be the leader that he never was in his five years playing football.

But you don't get credit for hiding in a hole and not doing anything bad that we know of during the year-plus that you've been out of the league.

EDIT: Do we even know that the NFL has been testing Washington during his suspension? He's effectively out of the league — the word that comes up over and over in the press is "Banishment." Washington could say that he hasn't faild a drug test in the last 10 months and be truthful if he hasn't had to submit to one.

I've read that he's been tested every week, which makes sense. Otherwise, how did Justin Blackmon, and iirc Josh Gordon, test positive during their suspensions?

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing by people over his delay to submit his papers. Nobody, as far as I have heard, knows what the reasoning behind it is. Maybe that date corresponded with completion of his DV program. I don't know what the reason is but it really has no bearing on anything at this point. Maybe 6 more weeks of being clean is a positive factor to Goodell. Who knows?

 

[kerouac9]

I've read that he's been tested every week, which makes sense. Otherwise, how did Justin Blackmon, and iirc Josh Gordon, test positive during their suspensions?

Also, I don't get all the hand wringing by people over his delay to submit his papers. Nobody, as far as I have heard, knows what the reasoning behind it is. Maybe that date corresponded with completion of his DV program. I don't know what the reason is but it really has no bearing on anything at this point. Maybe 6 more weeks of being clean is a positive factor to Goodell. Who knows?

Josh Gordon got his latest suspension after he'd been reinstated by the league.

Justin Blackmon was arrested for MJ possession in Oklahoma while he was banished from the league. Neither of those guys tested positive while on year-long suspensions.

According to Weinfuss (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13080955/daryl-washington-arizona-cardinals-probation-reduced) Washington may have been tested under the terms of his probation, but there's nothing there about the NFL independently testing him.

No one's "wringing hands" about not filing the papers as soon as he's eligible, but it doesn't support your case that Washington is doing everything within his power to re-join his teammates as soon as possible.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Josh Gordon got his latest suspension after he'd been reinstated by the league.

Justin Blackmon was arrested for MJ possession in Oklahoma while he was banished from the league. Neither of those guys tested positive while on year-long suspensions.

According to Weinfuss (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13080955/daryl-washington-arizona-cardinals-probation-reduced) Washington may have been tested under the terms of his probation, but there's nothing there about the NFL independently testing him.

No one's "wringing hands" about not filing the papers as soon as he's eligible, but it doesn't support your case that Washington is doing everything within his power to re-join his teammates as soon as possible.

Where did I say that?

All I said is if you're going to bash him for bad behavior, give him credit for good behavior. I don't see anyone ripping on Mathieu for his multiple failed drug tests/bad behavior at LSU and getting kicked off that team.

btw, re: Blackmon:
According to Mark Long of the Associated Press, the National Football League has denied Blackmon’s request for reinstatement from an indefinite suspension he received back in November of 2013 relating to multiple failed drug tests.

Blackmon was denied reinstatement, Long (via Mike Dempsey of 92.5 FM in Jacksonville) indicates that it’s either due to another failed test or missed drug test.

 

[kerouac9]

Where did I say that?

All I said is if you're going to bash him for bad behavior, give him credit for good behavior. I don't see anyone ripping on Mathieu for his multiple failed drug tests/bad behavior at LSU and getting kicked off that team.

btw, re: Blackmon:
According to Mark Long of the Associated Press, the National Football League has denied Blackmon’s request for reinstatement from an indefinite suspension he received back in November of 2013 relating to multiple failed drug tests.

Blackmon was denied reinstatement, Long (via Mike Dempsey of 92.5 FM in Jacksonville) indicates that it’s either due to another failed test or missed drug test.

There's no evidence that that's the case. It's presented pretty emptily as "the feeling in the building," whatever that means. Isn't it more likely that the reason he wasn't re-instated was because he'd been arrested for a 3rd time for marijuana possession?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...onville-jaguars-arrested-marijuana-possession

What is Washington's "good behavior"? (Maybe) not doing drugs and (probably) not beating his spouse? Attending his court-required counseling sessions? What an angel.

Mathieu actually turned his life around (apparently), and a lot of people here are worried that the other shoe is going to drop. Remember the thread this spring(?) about delivering furniture to Casa de Honey Badger?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There's no evidence that that's the case. It's presented pretty emptily as "the feeling in the building," whatever that means. Isn't it more likely that the reason he wasn't re-instated was because he'd been arrested for a 3rd time for marijuana possession?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...onville-jaguars-arrested-marijuana-possession

What is Washington's "good behavior"? (Maybe) not doing drugs and (probably) not beating his spouse? Attending his court-required counseling sessions? What an angel.

Mathieu actually turned his life around (apparently), and a lot of people here are worried that the other shoe is going to drop. Remember the thread this spring(?) about delivering furniture to Casa de Honey Badger?

I got it. Washington doing, and behaving, like he's supposed to gets an eye roll and is only held to the mistakes he's made while HB has "turned his life around" from his mistakes.

That's pretty logical thinking. I guess whichever side agrees with your thinking works.

 

[az jam]

Bottom line is: we really don't have any idea what is going on.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The funny thing is I think guys are absolute morons for getting themselves kicked out of the league.

But if the guy has adhered to all the rules and followed all the protocol, I give him credit for doing the necessary steps to get re-instated. I don't know how you cannot give him credit. To me, it's simple. He was an idiot and got himself suspended and now looks to have done everything right to get re-instated. Bad credit, good credit.

 

[Big Deal]

Josh Gordon got his latest suspension after he'd been reinstated by the league.

Justin Blackmon was arrested for MJ possession in Oklahoma while he was banished from the league. Neither of those guys tested positive while on year-long suspensions.

According to Weinfuss (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13080955/daryl-washington-arizona-cardinals-probation-reduced) Washington may have been tested under the terms of his probation, but there's nothing there about the NFL independently testing him.

No one's "wringing hands" about not filing the papers as soon as he's eligible, but it doesn't support your case that Washington is doing everything within his power to re-join his teammates as soon as possible.

How can you get freed from your probation early if you are testing positively for illegal drug(s).

 

[jeeperaz]

this thread is a giant turd

 

[GuernseyCard]

How can you get freed from your probation early if you are testing positively for illegal drug(s).

Good question.

Should point out that 60 working days from the date of his application is July 31st.... Training Camp.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

this thread is a giant turd

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[TJ]

How can you get freed from your probation early if you are testing positively for illegal drug(s).

Would be interesting if there were negative tests with his probation and positive ones with the league during his suspension.

I honestly don't think that's possible

 

[kerouac9]

How can you get freed from your probation early if you are testing positively for illegal drug(s).

Weinfuss couldn't verify how often Washington was being tested, if at all.

 

[Jim Otis]

Bottom Line !!!

I believe that D-Wash deserves the same treatment from the League Office that Aldon Smith and Ray McDonald receive . So far Rodger continues to kick D-Wash in the groin , while dishing up PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO THOSE TWO CLOWNS !!!!

 

[Austin Zonie]

Urban picked up a blog post on the topic. No new news though.

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2015/07/16/washington-and-the-rules-of-reinstatement/

You'd think we'd hear if it was denied, but who knows.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I got it. Washington doing, and behaving, like he's supposed to gets an eye roll and is only held to the mistakes he's made while HB has "turned his life around" from his mistakes.

That's pretty logical thinking. I guess whichever side agrees with your thinking works.

That sounds familiar.

 

[TJ]

Sounds like the league is working on Rod Graves time with this situation as well as Tom Brady's appeal.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think there is some stuff with Washington removed from the incidents we already know about... the way Arians treated it when it happened tells me the Cardinals do not expect to have Washington's services

 

[Brian in Mesa]

 

[ajcardfan]

I think there is some stuff with Washington removed from the incidents we already know about... the way Arians treated it when it happened tells me the Cardinals do not expect to have Washington's services

Since they are public records, and they were widely reported by news people, um, I doubt it seriously.

I assume you are talking about the arrest and not his NFL drug tests of course. Even with the NFL test there is mandated anonymity and such. So, I still seriously doubt there is stuff we have not heard about that really changes what we already know.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Well the original suspension was for "AT LEAST" 12 months. It could be longer for whatever reason the league office decides, or which way the wind is blowing in New York.

 

[TJ]

Well the original suspension was for "AT LEAST" 12 months. It could be longer for whatever reason the league office decides, or which way the wind is blowing in New York.

They should've responded to his application for reinstatement by now as it's been far longer than 60 days.

As long as they respond before TC, it's fine.

 

[BigRedRage]

They should've responded to his application for reinstatement by now as it's been far longer than 60 days.

As long as they respond before TC, it's fine.

It depends if the 60 days is based on filing date or if it is 60 days after the 12 month suspension completed.

 

[GuernseyCard]

It depends if the 60 days is based on filing date or if it is 60 days after the 12 month suspension completed.

It's based on the filing date, and the regulation requires that the applicant fulfil a host of demands allowing the Commish to make a decision in 60 days.

It does not, however, require a decision within that time frame.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Since they are public records, and they were widely reported by news people, um, I doubt it seriously.

I assume you are talking about the arrest and not his NFL drug tests of course. Even with the NFL test there is mandated anonymity and such. So, I still seriously doubt there is stuff we have not heard about that really changes what we already know.

They might know stuff where he did not get arrested... meaning it is not public record which most clubs keep in house, and what is not known is enough for them to say why bother counting on him