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Daryl Washington has no one to blame but himself.

You cannot get "wronged" if you don't screw up in the 1st place.

Since the start of the Goodell dictatorship, I have never, ever heard or seen something like what is going on with Washington.

Relative to all that is going on lately with the league, legally, Washington's situation and his charges are relatively easy, and cut and dry. Why he has not been re-instated, and the ridiculous silence behind it is not normal.

Yet, the only thing different from Washington's case, and the rest we have all seen throughout the last few years is Washington himself.

Washington is done playing football, that is what I am getting out of this, and it is not the NFL, or the Cardinals that is making that happen, it is Washington himself. He has his money, and his pot, and he is good for the rest of his life.

By the time he sees the field again he is going to be 30 years old, and have not played, practice, or trained professionally in 2 year.

He is done, time to move on and villianize this screw up for the rest of our days. Guy is a dishonest crook of a man (and for me is not even the pot, it is the dishonesty, and lack responsibility), and his legacy and reputation should show as much.

I hope the Cardinals get some of the bonus money they paid him back, and they can give it to the 53 guys Washington is currently screwing over.



Preach it brother man, I couldnt agree more. He is done and shamed everyone in the organization (and fans) into believing that was doing all the right things. I hope the cards get back some of that money they paid him.
 
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Again, the other punishments you referenced were for DV and cheating. Substance abuse is pretty clear cut. It was poorly negotiated by the NFLPA during collective bargaining. Instead of a hard 12month punishment, it's indefinite and the punished player must apply for reinstatement.

If this were for the DV incident, Washington would be doing a river dance on Goodell's head, like Brady and everyone else just did. Washington has much less wiggle room than the others. And if he did slip up again and drew another positive test, then he has no wiggle room.

Wasn't Josh Gordon's situation similar last year? If I remember correctly, he was initially suspended for the whole year and then appealed it down to 10 games or something like that. I also remember the NFL being a lot quicker on the responses with his situation. It just seem weird why the DWash situation is getting drawn out so much.
 

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Wasn't Josh Gordon's situation similar last year? If I remember correctly, he was initially suspended for the whole year and then appealed it down to 10 games or something like that. I also remember the NFL being a lot quicker on the responses with his situation. It just seem weird why the DWash situation is getting drawn out so much.

IIRC, there were procedural irregularities w/r/t Gordon's test, and the NFL revised their substance abuse policy b/c of Gordon and Wes Welker. Then Gordon got drunk with a coach and got popped, and now he really is out for the year. D'oh.
 

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Rugby, I believe this is my first post on this subject, and I'm not going to make the point that DW has only himself to blame, because that's obvious. As a fan it seems for what we know about his transgressions, that a lifetime ban is too harsh a penalty. And the NFL's silence is deafening. JMO.

It's not if he failed drug tests during the suspension. My GUESS is that is what has happened and they are appealing the lifetime ban.

Even though we all know weed is going to be legal almost everywhere in 10 years, it's not okay now.
 

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Maybe he should do what Ricky Williams did. Drop out of football entirely for a year and go smoke his brains out while living in a tent with no shoes on. Then, come back and play as well as Ricky did.
 

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Oddly enough, they just announce Dwyer's suspension from last year's incident. 3 games. Only makes everything even stranger if you ask me.
 

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Maybe he should do what Ricky Williams did. Drop out of football entirely for a year and go smoke his brains out while living in a tent with no shoes on. Then, come back and play as well as Ricky did.

I actually was thinking the other day that maybe he has the same sort of issues. Anxiety is no joke, and pot is one of the most effective cures.
 

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I haven't seen anything from him or his representatives that indicates any real desire to play.
 

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I haven't seen anything from him or his representatives that indicates any real desire to play.

at now we dont know anything
just hope weatherspoon can stay healthy and fua can emerge as a starter
 

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The league holds completely control over DWash because he was suspended indefinitely. They can hold him out 8 games this season and not blink an eye because they don't have to worry about appeals or anything.

He may never be back in the NFL or they can keep him out as long as they deem necessary for his past.
 

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Don't they have to, or shouldn't they have to, at least deny his request for reinstatement? I would think if they deny it someone would let it leak to the media....
 

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What is odd is that he and Josh Gordon are the only indefinite suspensions in the league. Everyone knows about Gordon and most commentators claim that he needs help blah blah blah...none of that for DWASH...weird.
 

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Don't they have to, or shouldn't they have to, at least deny his request for reinstatement? I would think if they deny it someone would let it leak to the media....

They would have to tell Washington and his rep, I assume. But there's no reason that the NFL would have to inform anyone else. His status with the league hasn't changed.
 

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They would have to tell Washington and his rep, I assume. But there's no reason that the NFL would have to inform anyone else. His status with the league hasn't changed.

Understand, but I would bet IF his reinstatement is or was denied it would "leak" fairly quickly from someone. If he is reinstated of course it would be announced...
 

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Maybe he should do what Ricky Williams did. Drop out of football entirely for a year and go smoke his brains out while living in a tent with no shoes on. Then, come back and play as well as Ricky did.

You should really watch "A Football Life: Ricky Williams"

It will really explain why that is not correct. I know what the rumors are, but they are not true.

Heck, I was under the same impression as you were until I watched it.
 

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You should really watch "A Football Life: Ricky Williams"

It will really explain why that is not correct. I know what the rumors are, but they are not true.

Heck, I was under the same impression as you were until I watched it.

Yeah. He definitely had shoes on at some point.

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Daryl Washington has no one to blame but himself.

You cannot get "wronged" if you don't screw up in the 1st place.

Since the start of the Goodell dictatorship, I have never, ever heard or seen something like what is going on with Washington.

Relative to all that is going on lately with the league, legally, Washington's situation and his charges are relatively easy, and cut and dry. Why he has not been re-instated, and the ridiculous silence behind it is not normal.

Yet, the only thing different from Washington's case, and the rest we have all seen throughout the last few years is Washington himself.

Washington is done playing football, that is what I am getting out of this, and it is not the NFL, or the Cardinals that is making that happen, it is Washington himself. He has his money, and his pot, and he is good for the rest of his life.

By the time he sees the field again he is going to be 30 years old, and have not played, practice, or trained professionally in 2 year.

He is done, time to move on and villianize this screw up for the rest of our days. Guy is a dishonest crook of a man (and for me is not even the pot, it is the dishonesty, and lack responsibility), and his legacy and reputation should show as much.

I hope the Cardinals get some of the bonus money they paid him back, and they can give it to the 53 guys Washington is currently screwing over.
I think this is what is so amazingly bothersome about the Washington case. To me the way he plays the game would be 0 indication that he is not interested in being reinstated. That would be pure speculation. That is really all anyone has at this point because of the leagues insistence on keeping substance abuse cases under a complete umbrella of secrecy. I don t believe the NFLPA even has any clout here even if DW believes he is doing everything he needs to do. How can the league just say he s suspended without offering anything more? Are specifics even given to the NFLPA?
 

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I think this is what is so amazingly bothersome about the Washington case. To me the way he plays the game would be 0 indication that he is not interested in being reinstated. That would be pure speculation. That is really all anyone has at this point because of the leagues insistence on keeping substance abuse cases under a complete umbrella of secrecy. I don t believe the NFLPA even has any clout here even if DW believes he is doing everything he needs to do. How can the league just say he s suspended without offering anything more? Are specifics even given to the NFLPA?

I have ZERO proof of this, but I have heard whispers that the NFLPA wants nothing to do with getting involved with Washington's case.

Again, I know I heard it/read it somewhere but got no proof to show, thus take it for what it is worth, which is not much.
 

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I have ZERO proof of this, but I have heard whispers that the NFLPA wants nothing to do with getting involved with Washington's case.

Again, I know I heard it/read it somewhere but got no proof to show, thus take it for what it is worth, which is not much.

But they get involved with Greg Hardy's? Ray McDonald's? Ray Rice's? Don't they?
 

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But they get involved with Greg Hardy's? Ray McDonald's? Ray Rice's? Don't they?


As I've said in this thread about 3 times: substance abuse has a non-disclosure clause attached to it. NFLPA can't say anything about it.
 
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