amare wants to stay

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In an interview on channel 12 3 mins ago amare said " I would love to stay a phx sun for sure". He sounds very professional and upbeat. Is it possible that he knows porter is gone and gentry will be HC? He sounded very good in his emphasis on that statement.
 

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Yep, Definately sounds like Porter is gone....Amare is staying. Maybe a small trade to help out...but I think this is the best scenario.
 

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He has always said he wanted to stay this isn't new. He was saying it since the first day trade rumors came up but fans were caught up in their dream that Kerr is a good GM and was going to get a "good" trade for Amar'e now they are back to their senses and realizing the truth that if you trade Amar'e you are instantly into mega rebuild mode.
 

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Good, cause all the trade deals stink.

Hopefully Gentry will gain the respect of the players and start playing ball like they really can.
 

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Good, cause all the trade deals stink.

Hopefully Gentry will gain the respect of the players and start playing ball like they really can.


I hope you don't mind, but I am using your "Sarver money bags" picture as my Facebook profile pic.
 

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Yep, Definately sounds like Porter is gone....Amare is staying. Maybe a small trade to help out...but I think this is the best scenario.

They can't muster up a justified trade for anyone, so ya might as well ax the coach. Someone's head has to roll w/ how the team is playing.
 

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Please, please tell me this is true. That Amare is staying and Porter is gone. But only if it is true. Don't tease me. My fragile balance of sanity over this year's season is teetering precariously and I might break something expensive in my house if my hopes are dashed.
 

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Keep Amare and then see if you can work a deal after the season. I'm sure they would get better offers.
 

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Keep Amare and then see if you can work a deal after the season. I'm sure they would get better offers.

you may very well be right. some teams like cleveland, utah, and others are going to want to re-measure their stacks before heading into next season. The suns could be able to get a pretty sweet deal for him then. When you rush a trade at the deadline, offers aren't usually that great. It also doesn't help that the suns are losing games and have all kinds of internal issues.
 

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I hope we can move Amare for someone still. He can talk all he wants but that doesn't make any bit a better defender, no matter who is coaching. And in the end his no d and 5-6 rebounds isn't enough for a powerfoward unless he scores 30 a night.
 
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I hope we can move Amare for someone still. He can talk all he wants but that doesn't make any bit a better defender, no matter who is coaching. And in the end his no d and 5-6 rebounds isn't enough for a powerfoward unless he scores 30 a night.

Imo amare has been abused, used as a jump shooter all too often. Let him operate from the elbow more and he will get you more offensive rebounds as well. This of course means getting shaq(and shaqs defender) out of his way. I have watched amare interviews all along and I like the emphasis on "for sure". He also talked about great fans and his development and memories here. I say let Gentry coach, use amare the way he should be used with this team, JRIch etc. I want to see this team get a chance that has not been possible under "hack a bowen" porter. In the off season, if the right deal can be made, perhaps then. But its stupid to trade him when he is having his worst season in years that just so happens to coincide with his use a jump shooter. Just two years ago, Amare was considered the best finisher in the NBA, and now he's a jump shooter? Let the beast back out and the worst thing that happens is his trade value is increased. Gentry is the guy with the best understanding of amares skills in the suns org, let him do it, he'll find a rotation and strategy to use this group.
 

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I've said before, you have to remove Porter as coach before the Suns even know what they have. Then make Gentry an interim coach. It's sad it's so close to the trading deadline. It should have happened earlier. However, if there is a decent trade out there, especially for Shaq, I would do it. I definitely do not want to give Amare away. The two headed monster thing has not worked.
 

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This of course means getting shaq(and shaqs defender) out of his way.

I'm all for that! They should just bench Shaq or just play him a few minutes. Originally he came here just to be a piece of the puzzle. Today (again) he's quoted that he wants more touches.

Yeah, if you didn't miss all those easy buckets under the basket, or commit an offensive foul, you might get more touches :bang:

I just know that I'm playing well. I've done everything that they've asked me to do. I understand the business. I was brought here because of a business deal. "I know it's not because I'm not producing. I'm producing. If you get me more opportunities, I can produce more."
 

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Imo amare has been abused, used as a jump shooter all too often. Let him operate from the elbow more and he will get you more offensive rebounds as well. This of course means getting shaq(and shaqs defender) out of his way.

It's all about finding balance. Going back to just Amare as our focal point would be a mistake. When this team has looked really good there was a balance between Amare and Shaq. The games we look horrible it seems we focused on one of them too much.

Prior to getting hurt all Amare could do was dunk the ball. After the injury Amare developed a good midrange shot. Since, Amare never developed a back to the basket game, he either rolls to the hoop or jump shoots. If the pick and roll was shut down and Amare's jump shot was not going..he has nothing else. You can blame that Amare or coaching or whatever.

Even when Amare was playing our primary option and Center his weakness offensively was being able to play back to the basket. That's not going to change even with Shaq's guy out of the way and I think teams have figured that out. You stop the pick and roll and make Amare a jump shooter and take your chances.

Now factor in Amare has developed horrible hands all of the sudden. That has nothing to do with Shaq or his man. Amare is one of the league worst forwards at handling the ball based on his turnover total and turnover rate. Giving Amare more touches would make it worse.

It wasn't too long ago this board was on fire with people calling on D'Antoni to do something when the pick and roll wasn't working. I have seen more teams last year and this year being able to shut down the pick and roll with Amare.

We need balance. Maybe go to the pick and roll as the first option until a team proves it can shut it down? If it gets shut down then you milk Shaq for all he is worth. It's fools gold though if you think Amare can become any better rebounding or defensively. Amare is about as good as your going to see him get.
 
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It's all about finding balance. Going back to just Amare as our focal point would be a mistake. When this team has looked really good there was a balance between Amare and Shaq. The games we look horrible it seems we focused on one of them too much.

Prior to getting hurt all Amare could do was dunk the ball. After the injury Amare developed a good midrange shot. Since, Amare never developed a back to the basket game, he either rolls to the hoop or jump shoots. If the pick and roll was shut down and Amare's jump shot was not going..he has nothing else. You can blame that Amare or coaching or whatever.

Even when Amare was playing our primary option and Center his weakness offensively was being able to play back to the basket. That's not going to change even with Shaq's guy out of the way and I think teams have figured that out. You stop the pick and roll and make Amare a jump shooter and take your chances.

Now factor in Amare has developed horrible hands all of the sudden. That has nothing to do with Shaq or his man. Amare is one of the league worst forwards at handling the ball based on hit turnover total and turnover rate. Giving Amare more touches would make it worse.

It wasn't too long ago this board was on fire with people calling on D'Antoni to do something when the pick and roll wasn't working. I have seen more teams last year and this year being able to shut down the pick and roll with Amare.

We need balance. Maybe go to the pick and roll as the first option until a team proves it can shut it down? If it gets shut down then you milk Shaq for all he is worth. It's fools gold though if you think Amare can become any better rebounding or defensively. Amare is about as good as your going to see him get.

I think Amare can change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qz74cEN5aw
 

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Who cares if Amare wants to stay. What are we supposed to go...forget his "opt out" clause, his bad defense and rebounding, and questionable knees because he wants to stay? There are reasons Suns management is thinking of trading him and it all doesn't get erased because Amare wants to stay. Besides all that, Amares agent wants him to have a max contract and thats the fine print to Amare's desire to stay....."Yeah I want to stay in Phoenix as long as you max me out"....maybe management doesnt want that. Maybe they dont want to max out a player that is one dimensional with questionable knees.
 

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Maybe once Porter gets officaly caned the team will pick up it's energy a little bit. Just be sure to get a coach that likes to run and gun we won't win a championship this year but atleast have something to build on for the future and make the playoffs.....
 

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Stoudemire is 60-40 on staying

Suns All-Star Amare Stoudemire offered a forecast for next Thursday afternoon. When the trade deadline hits, he said there is a 60 percent chance that he will remain in Phoenix.
"I do see them keeping me," Stoudemire said during All-Star Game players' media availability today at the downtown Sheraton. "It's possible. I'm leaning more toward 60-40. I'm thinging they'll keep me 60 (percent) and not 40 (percent)."
Stoudemire called the trade speculation a "low blow" today. At times, he said the Suns' consideration on trading him is financially motivated. But he also said that he did not understand what is going on with the Suns fielding offers because he is improving in his prime (age 26), planning on playing 15 more seasons in the NBA.
"I'm trying to figure out what the focus is," Stoudemire said. "I thought I was always the future of the franchise and we were trying to win a championship here. It doesn't seem that way anymore. I don't know what to expect from the front office. From a currency standpoint, they're trying to cut back on money. They want players with expiring contracts and draft picks. That lets you know that they're not trying for a blockbuster trade."

WTF ...

Shaq/Hill : TRADE US TO A CONTENDER! PLEASE!!!
 

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Lol. Only if he goes and works out in a barn in the middle of Russia. :D

If I can change and you can change. Everybody can change!!

-I seriously doubt Amare would run throw snow or chase chickens with that contract. He isn't gonna change!!
 
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Amare isn't a player who will win a NBA championship, ever. He doesn't have what it takes. He's selfish, he doesn't understand the "team concept", he doesn't play defense, he doesn't act like a leader, he's immature, he's self-centered, he's all amount "me" and he doesn't improve this teams chemistry.

Let's Trade Amare !
 

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Screw Amare we need to deal him, some of you are just way to forgiving of this guy! He has been talking non stop for years how hes gonna do this and that and the guy never changes he wants to score and be the man....THATS IT!!! He doesn't want to rebound, or defend or hustle he wants to be the max player that just scores, screw that ship his ass out! I would rather have Shaq down low at this point and clearly Amare can't seem to play with anyone in the post (which is a problem) and isn't worth the contract he is going to want!
 

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If Amare is traded for crap (which is every rumor out there yet most of you still want it done regardless), I will rag on everyone every single time the Suns lose for the next 2 years.
 

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Amare isn't a player who will win a NBA championship, ever. He doesn't have what it takes. He's selfish, he doesn't understand the "team concept", he doesn't play defense, he doesn't act like a leader, he's immature, he's self-centered, he's all amount "me" and he doesn't improve this teams chemistry.

All of those things are also true, to an even greater extent, about Antoine Walker.

I don't see Stoudemire as a franchise player, but to say that he won't ever win a ring is ridiculous.
 
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