Andrew Bynum

[BC867]

...most people have no clue where Moreno Valley is.

'Just a hop, skip and a jump west of the Perryville Prison . . . down by the Riverside. That's where you'll find The Steven.

 

[AzStevenCal]

'Just a hop, skip and a jump west of the Perryville Prison . . . down by the Riverside. That's where you'll find The Steven.

Yeah, I live less than a mile as the sober crow flies from the old Riverside International Raceway. It's now a Mall and much quieter than it used to be but at one time it was a very popular filming site for Hollywood and the TV industry. The Steven is still against acquiring Bynum though; the noise, dusty air and fumes from the old RIR weren't enough to drive me that crazy.

Steve

 

[95pro]

Bynum+3picks for Deng

 

[sunsfan88]

He's gonna get bought out asap and sign with LAC or Miami. Probably LA since he has familiarity with the city and his best years came in that city.

 

[Errntknght]

Yeah, I live less than a mile as the sober crow flies from the old Riverside International Raceway. It's now a Mall and much quieter than it used to be but at one time it was a very popular filming site for Hollywood and the TV industry. The Steven is still against acquiring Bynum though; the noise, dusty air and fumes from the old RIR weren't enough to drive me that crazy.

Steve

I used to go out to the races at RIR in the early sixties. One thing I remember clearly was the colossal traffic jams when it was over. It was the heyday of British racing - Lotus, BRM, Cooper. Stirling Moss was king then but I can't swear I saw him running there. The names I remember are Jack Brabham, Bruce McClaren, Graham Hil, Roger Penske - before he started racing at Indy. I lived in Venice at the beach - it was anything but trendy then - and worked at a nearby Douglas Aircraft site.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Bynum dealt to Bulls for Deng and three picks. Wow. Deng would have been nice here. He is younger than I thought (28).

We didn't have a $20 million savings piece though. Got to hand it to Cleveland. They turned Bynum into something. Guess it shows how much they valued Gasol. They would send nothing but Bynum for him.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I used to go out to the races at RIR in the early sixties. One thing I remember clearly was the colossal traffic jams when it was over. It was the heyday of British racing - Lotus, BRM, Cooper. Stirling Moss was king then but I can't swear I saw him running there. The names I remember are Jack Brabham, Bruce McClaren, Graham Hil, Roger Penske - before he started racing at Indy. I lived in Venice at the beach - it was anything but trendy then - and worked at a nearby Douglas Aircraft site.

I can just imagine. I didn't move here until 84 but the traffic jams still occur even without major events. At that same time I would have been living in Scottsdale which was becoming quite trendy itself but not South Scottsdale where I lived. We were a decidedly blue collar area although most households approached the middle class dream with vigor. And I'm still glad we didn't trade for Bynum. Let him celebrate his championship with his probable new team (once released), it should be a hollow victory for anyone with a true sense of pride.

Steve

 

[devilalum]

Since the Bulls are hitting the reset button maybe they'd be interested in trading Noah. He's only 28 which isn't that old for a center and he'd add another level to the crazy defense.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Since the Bulls are hitting the reset button maybe they'd be interested in trading Noah. He's only 28 which isn't that old for a center and he'd add another level to the crazy defense.

I'd certainly prefer him to Bynum or Pau Gasol.

Steve

 

[devilalum]

Since the Bulls are hitting the reset button maybe they'd be interested in trading Noah. He's only 28 which isn't that old for a center and he'd add another level to the crazy defense.

He's definitely a STAR. After losing Rose and Deng trading Noah would probably catapult the Bulls into a top 4 pick. Right now they're the 6th seed with nothing to gain.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Bynum for Deng? Dang.

That's just criminal.

 

[Chaplin]

He's definitely a STAR. After losing Rose and Deng trading Noah would probably catapult the Bulls into a top 4 pick. Right now they're the 6th seed with nothing to gain.

I don't think Noah alone is going to keep them in the playoffs--and I'm willing to bet that he is now the only commodity they have. So when Rose gets back and they presumably get a good pick this summer, what happens next year? They won't be in any better of a place if they get rid of their only good big man. Derrick Rose won't want to be part of a complete rebuild.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think Noah alone is going to keep them in the playoffs--and I'm willing to bet that he is now the only commodity they have. So when Rose gets back and they presumably get a good pick this summer, what happens next year? They won't be in any better of a place if they get rid of their only good big man. Derrick Rose won't want to be part of a complete rebuild.

I don't follow them at all but I'd have to wonder if they even consider Rose a part of their rebuilding plan.

Steve

 

[Chaplin]

I don't follow them at all but I'd have to wonder if they even consider Rose a part of their rebuilding plan.

Steve

At this point, with his contract, I think they have to.

 

[bankybruce]

I don't think Noah alone is going to keep them in the playoffs--and I'm willing to bet that he is now the only commodity they have. So when Rose gets back and they presumably get a good pick this summer, what happens next year? They won't be in any better of a place if they get rid of their only good big man. Derrick Rose won't want to be part of a complete rebuild.

Exactly this. Also, next season Nikola Mirotic is coming over and he is get rave reviews in Europe right now. Add that is the Bobcats pick, which is top 10 protected this year, and we should have two good picks.

 

[bankybruce]

I don't follow them at all but I'd have to wonder if they even consider Rose a part of their rebuilding plan.

Steve

Why wouldn't you? This knee injury is not near what the first one was.

 

[elindholm]

Bynum for Deng? Dang.

That's just criminal.

It's really three picks for Deng. Bynum was just to make the numbers work.

 

[devilalum]

It's really three picks for Deng. Bynum was just to make the numbers work.

The Suns traded Deng for ONE pick that they didn't even use.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The Suns traded Deng for ONE pick that they didn't even use.

That's not criminal...that's just sad.

 

[Chaplin]

The Suns traded Deng for ONE pick that they didn't even use.

Come on, I get the age-old complaint about that draft, but Deng wasn't an established quantity at the time. He was still an unknown at that point.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It's really three picks for Deng. Bynum was just to make the numbers work.

Not really, Bynum gives Chicago a $20 million savings this year since they get to cut him, his salary and the lux tax hit that goes along with it. So, its Deng for 3 picks and $20 million.

 

[SirStefan32]

Exactly this. Also, next season Nikola Mirotic is coming over and he is get rave reviews in Europe right now. Add that is the Bobcats pick, which is top 10 protected this year, and we should have two good picks.

I'll admit I don't follow Euro basketball as closely as I have in the past, but I am not aware of Mirotic coming to the NBA. Last I heard he was making $5M or so in Spain, and Real was working on an extension. Can you point me to the source that says he is coming to the NBA next year?

 

[bankybruce]

I'll admit I don't follow Euro basketball as closely as I have in the past, but I am not aware of Mirotic coming to the NBA. Last I heard he was making $5M or so in Spain, and Real was working on an extension. Can you point me to the source that says he is coming to the NBA next year?

There have been dozens of reports over the last year about it and after doing a single season on bing, I came up with about 35 article.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...s-trade-luol-deng-andrew-bynum-nikola-mirotic

That one was from today.

In order to entice Mirotic, the Bulls will have to give him some part of their mid-level exception. As a taxpayer, that would be just $3.3 million, which would leave his salary at just about $500,000, a serious slash in pay. (Teams over the luxury tax are only allowed a ‘mini' mid-level exception) But the full mid-level starts at $5.3 million, and if Mirotic were given that much, he would have a starting salary, after the buyout, of about $2.5 million.

That is still a pay cut, but if the Bulls were to offer something in the range of a three-year contract worth $16 million, Mirotic would more than make up for the cost of the buyout over time. Or, the Bulls could give him a shorter deal that allows him to hit free agency, giving him the chance to cash in on his talents quickly.

That’s why Deng’s departure — either now, later in the season or in the offseason — was practically predetermined. It puts the Bulls in a much more flexible position generally, but especially when it comes to Mirotic.

The plan has always been 2014 and here are a couple of other articles about it. That is why the Bulls have hung on to Boozer. They can amnesty him this summer and have more money for Mirotic

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/13165/bulls-likely-to-wait-till-2014-for-mirotic

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/04/bulls-wont-sign-nikola-mirotic-until-2014.html

 

[bankybruce]

Not really, Bynum gives Chicago a $20 million savings this year since they get to cut him, his salary and the lux tax hit that goes along with it. So, its Deng for 3 picks and $20 million.

Yup, because of the new repeater luxury tax penalty, the Bulls now will start over on it after a lost season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Why wouldn't you? This knee injury is not near what the first one was.

You sound just like so many of us Suns fans did during the Penny Hardaway era. A player who has a serious knee injury to each knee rarely returns to form and it's especially concerning if the injuries are not the result of direct contact. If he's available from the start of next season he'll have played something like 50 games in 3.5 years. Again, who returns to form when that happens? Even without injury, taking that much time off often does something to the high level competitor. He may well come back at his previous level but I think it's far from a safe assumption and I find it hard to believe that the Chicago organization isn't concerned and looking at options.

Steve